hey, at least he showed up in court today...

I just hope he doesn't die so NME make him into the Cobain/martyr figure they're obviously attempting to.

And, on a side note, I bloody hate The Libertines.

Why do people hate The Libertines? Apart from being covered to death by NME, what have they done that's so bad?

It's not about tenements and needles and all the evils in their eyes and the backs of the minds, daisy chains, schoolyard games and a list of things we said we'd do tomorrow, oh and a list of things we said we'd do tomorrow...

May the minstrel of albion continue his tune.

cracking photo though!

Libertines music = good.

Libertines press coverage = yawn yawn o such a hard life yawn yawn.

It's such a shame.

yawn.

I saw the Libertines when they played under a different name in Coventry and then saw them a few months later when they came back and thought they were awful. Totally shown up by Lefthand who were wicked on the night. Then I saw the Libertines again at Midsummer Madness without Pete and they were much, much better.

i may have seen the libertines, it might of been last night, but their music is so forgettable i wouldnt remember even if i had...

pete is looking healthy these days isnt he!!!!!

is he on drugs?

i think petes overdosed on purple food colouring.
x

f-f-f-fresh babyshambles to tour!

I bet you guys who hate the libertines are all wear black emo glasses, only buy your records in independent record shops and start hating groups once they get massive commercial success.
You hate all nme bands, but if theres a copy of the nme lying around you will read it anyway.
You love trash asthetics, moshi-moshi, domino (although that label is starting to become uncool now that it is gaining a lot of exposure) but you think rough trade and anything to do with alan mcgee is crap.
You hate the libertines, but you still find time to read this article (despite the obvious headline- which you could so easily avoid) and if you were at a gig, and the libertines turned up as a surprise slot- I bet you would clearly hang around and watch them - just to see what theyre like.

Oh and I bet you all love Hope of the States and until a few months ago, really liked Morrissey.

adap!

bloody hell!! are you a magician or something?
that is ALL ME!!!

except for the glasses.

Touchy, these Libertines fans, aren't they?

'Cause everyone that thinks The Libertines are shit HAS to be an elitist indie-kid. There's just no other reason to dislike an over-exposed pub band with forgettable songs.

who really gives a flyin fuck about the babyshambles?or pete doherty?

he is in a semi decent band, who have credible success, and is tourin with a shite pub band, who only have sucess because he is part of the libertines.... what a tool

complete penis in a totally shit band. glamourising heroin addiction isn't big clever or exciting.

...i hate the libertines, because first of all they right shit music, and became famous because of it. and secondly because pete doherty is one of the biggest twats in music. so undeserving of his fame...and even if he is deserving all he has done is fucking abuse it....fuckin cunt

i'm coming round to them, purely because i really like 'Can't Stand Me Now'. they're hardly the future of music though... at least, i hope they ain't.

Frome!? Why?!

Aye, all us Wiltshire fuckers will be out down the Grain that night... I'll take him down Shoefayre beforehand.

how ugly is he? yuck

Libertenes, I'm just fed up hearing so much of a band that hasn't really made an impact musically. I haven't heard a classic by them,and the amount of hype they've recieved you think that they have...

I can see bands in a few years time being as influenced by them like Oasis, Stone Roses etc... I reckon they'll be shite too.

I'm an indie kid (and i've tried listening to them) but I just think that their 'style' is shit. It sounds like a band who have good songs but ruin them by being 'rock n roll' or pissed, or smacked up or whatever.

The question is WHY do people like them?

Someone give me some reasons.

OK - why do people like The Libertines / Babyshambles?

1. They released a classic album in Up the Bracket, where every song is stunning.
2. They carry on the tradition of romantic, English indie from The Smiths.
3. Their new single and album rocks!
4. They are a band to care about - a band that are completely real and genuine to their fans.

OK, so NME talk a lot about them, but that just goes to show that people really do want to hear about them.

libertines are ok band. good first album, cant stand me now is cool. just wondering about this 2nd album, is it gonna ba filled with pete libertine goblledegook or what, i imagine it might be, i hope not. heard some stuff of his on the net. not a patch on the whole libs vibe.

reading all your thoughts is interesting for myself as i'm in a band that is aiming tobe the best band in the fuckin world sooner rather than later. I dont ponder too much on others i.e pete libertine, whether it be bands or fans, everyone take a step back and chill. everyone seems to be taking everything too seriously in my opinion, if he wants to fuck himself up then let him, his making way for the next big thing. ahem!! one part of me isnt sad for theior downfall, but another is as they have great songs. .but hey, what do i know? i'm just the next clean living , dope smoking king cobain/doherty............

see you all there. its a long story.. hope you follow

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the guy needs to sort himself out and people shouldn't be booking him for gigs. But let's face it, everyone is secretly delighted as this is the only interesting thing happening at the moment.

I fancy going but will he turn up......I guess thats the risk you have to take.

i think the thing that attracts people to the libertines, at least what i think attracted me, is the potential there.

they have not 1, but 2, charismatic frontmen who have this strange sorta schoolboy/drug buddy/creative partnership relationship with mysterious homo-erotic undertones. already you have something a little different.

there is their obsession with english culture and the celebrating of the albion, an england which no longer even exists anymore. the lyrics are colloquial, tell of everyday life and personal experiences, a la the kinks, although with not quite the same flair as the legendary ray davies.

you have the excitement of the music, the rough-edged production, miscontrued by some as laziness and/or inexperience on the part of mick jones. there is the atmosphere of spontaneity and the frenetic, energetic rhythms off something about to go off the rails.

before pete's enforced leave of absence there was this feeling that, if only he could ditch the drugs, an equilibrium in the band could be restored and they could bring all the potential they have together in the right time and place and create something amazing, a record to take to the heart, that would create a massive impact and silence the doubters.

that they haven't managed this just means they are squandering the potential they have, or pete is. but there is a hope that it could still happen. maybe.

on some occasions it looks hopeless and you despair that perhaps they lost their chance and they have already put out their best work, with all its flaws. but that potential keeps you hoping.

why dont you people just listen to a band without prejudice (yes i did get that off george michael but thats besides the point) i mean the guy is an unbelivable cock for throwin away such an oportunity of being one of the most important bands of this era. the chemistry n stage presence he had with carl, he will never replace. thats the thing that pisses me off, he had a BIG chance and threw it away and what does he get in return? another chance with another band and god-like status from NME! what a load of bollocks. however thats my personal opinion of him, which i wont let get in the way of enjoy his music and admirin his huge talent no matter how much of a tit he has been. the fact is that he is a amazing songwriter and babyshambles have had a couple of decent songs. if only some of u stuck up cunts open ur fuckin ears once in a while and lisen to his stuff then maybe u wud realise why people like him so much.