You still don't get it do you?

You silly little boy.............

The Will Smith comment was blatant sarcasm! Therefore, does not support your 'British have no idea about American Rap' view.

On the other hand, you have proved yourself to be entirely humourless!!!

HL xx

Hey, we are! Red White nd Blue Buddy!!!
I love American
nd Eminem woohoo
*~*I LOVE EMINEM*~*

Dear gods, please don't judge us all on those who take net-speak to entirely new and ridiculous levels....

Hey, first off i wanna say *~*HAPPY BIRTHDAY EMINEM~~*~*
October 17,1972, the day that changes the rap world forever!! I love u Em!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Ems day is amazing cuz he deserves it!!!

Ok now to the whole retirement issue:
i was just watchin mtv nd they had this whole thing on the european tour nd Em was on there performing stan, nd when i was watchin it i started to sry cuz it just reminded me soo much of the anger management tour 3, nd he was standin rite in front of me ( i was in the pit) nd i noe its crazy but i just miss him sooo much even if i was only around him for a short period of time. I feel like i can relate to stan now more then ever cuz ive been tryin to send Em letters nd stuff nd i dont noe if hes even gettin them. i just sent him a bday card recently and i just really hope he writes me back one of these days ....but yea like i was sayin about the whole retirement issue ( the point to my story) is that if imiss him this much nd hes still around, ima go freakin crazy when hes not, nd i just hope its not for a long time cuz rite about now i still really need him nd his music...

To answer ur question:
1. If i ever met Em nd got to talk to him face to face then 1st id tell him how amazin he is nd how he has influenced my life sooo much. 2nd i would ask him about the whole retirement issue so i dont drive myself crazy wounderin, Then id ask him if we could keep in touch like by writtin letters or something. I watched Em walk away the first time .... it would really suck to have to see him do it again nd never get to talk to him again.

2. no i havnt heard of this esham person. The only reason i think hes dissin Em is cuz he wants to get his name out there. He sees Em replyin to all these disses nd is hopein that Em will reply to his so he can get his name nd music out there. Hes just tryin to get his music out nd get all the fame w/o doing any work to further his career like Em did. Em really worked hard to get where he is now nd deff. doesnt deserve these assholes tryin to piggyyback off of his sucess just to get there names out there. Ugh esham ... what a fag ....

Ok well ima go for now

ps Slim_Shady_Luva .... u seem like an awsome person that i could actually get along wit. I go to school everyday nd ppl there just bring up Em nd say shit to piss me off and i really dont noe a lot of ppl that feel like i do. If ya ever wanna chat i got a sn ( ShadyGrl072690@aol.com) nd a
myspace(http://www.myspace.com/shadygrl072690)
Ill ttyl ppls

*~*I LOVE EMINEM*~*

omg haha yeah true true ur rite about da stan thang....

anywayz ill give u da 411 about dis esham guy

Esham vs. Eminem

Although Psychopathic Records has had it's share of differences with Eminem in the past (to say the least), the beef between Eminem and Esham was brewing long before Esham signed to Psychopathic.

First, to understand, it's pretty much a given that Esham inspired almost every local rap artist that has come out of Detroit, from ICP and the Psychopathic family, to Kid Rock, to even Eminem himself. Eminem has even admitted this in the past.

In 1997, rapper Proof from Eminem's side-group D12 was performing in Detroit, opening up a show for Lil' Kim. Esham was chillin' out in the crowd, enjoying the show. For whatever reason, they called Esham up to come up on the stage. Esham went and, being the local legend that he is, the crowd went wild. Right as Esham got on the microphone, though, he got aattacked by a local rapper named Trick Trick from Detroit rap group The Goon Squad. All hell broke loose, fights broke out with the rappers, the security, the fans, and so on and so forth. Why it happened, who knows, but that was pretty much the end of that for a couple of years between Esham and Proof...

For Esham and Eminem himself, it all sort of began shortly before Eminem got famous. Eminem put out a song called "Till Hell Freezes Over." In this song, not only did he make an indirect reference (not a diss, just a reference) to Esham, he also dissed ICP on this one, with the line "Fuck ICP, buy my CD." However, shortly before that lyric, he says "I think I fucked my head up listening to acid rap." For those not aware, Acid Rap is the style which Esham has always described his music as. And there's can be no mistake about it being a refrence to anyone else because Esham is the only artist--Detroit or otherwise--to claim "Acid Rap" as his creation.

On Eminem's major label debut album The Slim Shady LP, on the last track entitled "Still Don't Give A Fuck," Eminem again gave mention to Esham, saying "Ever since I was born, my mama lost me. I'm a cross between Manson, Esham, and Ozzy"

At first, Esham took this as a compliment. In one interview, when asked about it, he simply said "Yeah, that's pretty cool of him." And on Esham's greatest hits album Bootleg From The Lost Vault from 2000, on the back of the CD case, it quoted Eminem's lyric from that song. Esham didn't seem to mind.

Something at this point changed though...who knows what, but soon Esham was tossing disses at Eminem. In an issue of Murder Dog magazine, Esham called Eminem racist and said instead of "M&M," he calls him "Skittles cause any faggot can taste his rainbow."

The war was on.

In late 2000, Esham released the album Tongues which was littered with Eminem disses. (more info on the disses later).

Apparently, it struck a nerve. On Eminem's next album, The Marshall Mathers LP, which again had a few ICP disses on it, also had a diss at Esham. On the song "Kill You", Eminem raps "I ain't acid rap but I rap on acid, got a new blowup doll and just had a strap-on added. Whoops, was that a subliminal diss?!"

Esham responded with a few more disses in interviews and in one memorable appearance on ICP.com's Shaggy Show, said Eminem's haircut made him look like Hitler. Even Esham's homie Mastamind, from the group Natas got involved on his solo album Themindzi, in the Intro, saying "Wassup Marshall....watch you're motherfucking mouth."

It was only a matter of time before the situation turned violent, and when it did, it turned REALLY violent. Some promoter apparently decided that it would be a good idea to have both Esham/Natas and D12 on the legendary Vans Warped Tour. So on August 3rd, 2001, the Warped Tour stopped for a show in New Jersey and it would end up being the last show for Esham and D12 on the tour.

Eminem wasn't there, but the rest of D12 was. Reports vary a little, but the facts, as reported by MANY witnesses, are that Esham and partner TNT were hanging around backstage, chillin', and were MOBBED by a HUGE group of people. The people were members of D12 as well as their security. Witnesses say it was anywhere from 20 to 30 people. Esham claims it was more like 50. Proof, of D12, says it was around 35 or so. Either way, the fact remains: Esham and TNT were outnumbered, to say the least, and the beatdown occurred. Mastamind, lucky for him, wasn't around when it happened and thus, was spared a beating at the hands of 30 or so people.

The target was obvious: while TNT escaped with only minor cuts and bruises, Esham almost lost his life. He suffered broken nose, a ruptured eyeball (a RUPTURED FUCKING EYEBALL, MAN!!!), a concussion and hearing damage to his left ear. Both Natas and D12 were kicked off the Warped Tour following the attack.

Speaking to reporters a few days after the incident, Esham insisted that Eminem set up the attack against him. Here's some of the quotes from an interview with Billboard.

"Mathers gave the word," Esham told Billboard. "He didn't even show up for the tour. That's how premeditated this was. This was a straight-up attempted murder on my life. I could have been dead.

It got this bad because those guys idolize us," Esham told Billboard. "They emulate everything we do. Eminem has animosity toward us because we're his favorite rap group. We don't agree with some of the things they say, so we speak upon that. It stems from that."

"We got kicked off for defending ourselves, which is totally horrendous," he added. "[D12] was 100 percent in the wrong. Even now they're sending emails and death threats to us."

After the incident, there were rumors going around that Esham may never be able to rap and perform again due to the hearing damage that he suffered from the beating and that it might be permanent. Apparently, that subsided because Esham was back in the studio shortly after and launched another diss at Eminem on Natas's last album Godlike in the song "Shady MF."

In mid-2002, things got violent again. When Eminem was recording a video for his hit song "Without Me", Esham and TNT got a small measure of revenge. They went out to California, where the video was being shot, and right there on Sunset Blvd., Esham, TNT, and about 15 gang members jumped Proof and Obie Trice, another rapper on Eminem's label. Two Shady Records staff members were also involved. Although it was, like, a damn near 20-4 beating, Proof claims that he and Obie Trice pretty much beat Esham and TNT up again. But others say that it was just a straight up beatdown, and that Proof and Obie got straight fucked up. Who knows who to believe, but if you wanna draw your own conclusions, keep in mind that it was 15-20 people against 4.

The beef was pretty much silent for awhile later until Esham signed to Psychopathic in 2002 and released a greatest hits album called Acid Rain. The album included 5 new songs, 2 of which contained thinly veiled Eminem disses.

In October of 2003, someone from D12 finally responded to all the disses. Proof, from D12, released a song online entitled "E.S.H.A.M." which stood for "Every Sucka Has A Moment." The song talked about how Esham was a big legend in Detroit back in the early 90's but claimed that he wasn't shit now, so on and so forth.

Esham spit another diss on the 2003 Hallowicked track "Thug Pit." This isn't noteable really--at that point, Esham had dissed Eminem and D12 so many times that it became hard to keep track--but the thing is, apparently Bone Thugs and Tech N9ne (who were also on the song) weren't aware that Eminem was going to be dissed. Bone and Tech N9ne are both on good terms with Eminem and weren't happy about being included on a song which dissed Eminem without them knowing it was on there.

In November 2003, Esham released Repentence which, much like Tongues, had a slew of disses shot towards Eminem and D12. Even ICP got in on the action for a couple of songs.

Rumor has it that Eminem has a few words lined up for Esham on his next album, due out in late 2004, so I guess time will only tell on that one.

Below is a list of all the songs Esham has dissed Eminem on, and includes what he said. Some of these are blatantly obvious and a few of them are kinda iffy, but are at least somewhat believed to be a diss. In no particular order:

I'm Dead
"Never rap about fans named Stan like a homo."

Chemical Imbalance
"They won't let me on MTV, I beat up Carson Daly and remind Eminem of D'Angelo Bailey. Hailey's in a coma, Hailey's in a coma, I smell the aroma of a dead body."

Mr. Negativity
"But then again, should I just slit his throat for saying my fuckin' name in that rhyme he wrote? Should I kill your wife and your child for trying to assassinate me and my style?"

Detroit
"Killin' anything that's Shady, bitin' my style, pay me. And even in stereo, you can't play me, crack baby."

Brain Surgery
"Been boomin' words from hell way before D12. Tell me your favorite white rapper act like a female, bitch! Slit your wrists like your dumb wife Kim. Scribble my name on the wall in blood, I love E-S-H-A-M."

Gloczup
"This white boy named Eminem, he say he live like me. Talkin' bout he from Detroit, the east side like me. Talkin' bout he don't spit acid rap but spit acid like me. Bitch, I'm a nigga and you're a honky."

All Night Every Day
"The styles that you runnin' round with is ours, you and them Shady suckas is nothing but cowards. Bang yo' brains in the dirt, make you go beserk, if you ride with Em-ily, yo' ass gon' get murdered. I'm the E to the S to the H-A-M. If I wasn't, then why would I say I am? Pull a jack, sell a sack, cuz the babies need Similac. You remember that, rollin' in the Cadillac. You wanna battle rap? I swing the battle axe, chop your head off, and tell Hailey, go tattle that."

La La La
"Bitch ass niggas in this game unreal, quick to flip the fuckin' script for the mass appeal, but when their blood gets spilled, let's see how many feel that they gotta die for another Shady Record deal."

P-P-P-Pow!
"P-P-P-Pow if you dress up like Osama bin Laden..." (in reference to Eminem dressed like bin Laden in the "Without Me" video.

Woo Woo Woo
"And if you actin' shady, we be like, 'shut up ho'!"

In Detroit
"In Detroit, bitch, you ain't even from Detroit, fuck yo' style, 7 Mile is where the hustlas at. In Detroit, ain't no fuckin' freestylin', ain't no time for that"

"I be the Rabbit killa, the killa who killed Rabbit, in Detroit, we bust automatics at trailer park addicts, across 8 Mile" (referring to Eminem's character "Rabbit" in the movie 8 Mile)

Back In Da Day
"I'ma tell you how it was before it all began, before Eminem, before all of 'dem"

"Feminem is her style, She-12 is her age, she lives across 8 Mile but still can get gauged."

"We was bumpin' Awesome Dre, representin' Detroit way before you met Dr. Gay"

Mommy
"Girl, he can't be your Superman, but I can be your Kyrptonite." (referring to Eminem's song "Superman")

Ex-Girlfriend
"Hailey's crying for her mommy. He didn't commit suicide, I killed your cousin Ronnie." (in reference to Eminem's Uncle Ronnie, who committed suicide a few years ago...but Esham fucked up and called him 'cousin' instead. Either way, point made.)

Thug Pit
"Fuck Proof, every Halloween, I dress like a bag lady, then I ride around with my 380 lookin' for Shady. If I catch him at the Shelter, I'ma pull his file, chop his head off, and bury his body across 8 Mile."

Shady MF (Natas)
"Feminem and She-12 gon' get the bitch bust on."


aint dis esham guy a fagface?????????????????

told ya i thought he was
Gggaaayyyy anywayz g2g baiz