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emos got hit!

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by ben_dover

today when going to the bus 6 chavs beat about 4 emos and when i say beat they really hurt them 2 of them were crying i broke it up but i didnt fell sorry for the emos what is going on does any one really hate emos more than chavs?

ben_dover | 21 Jan '07, 23:25 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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chavs are far worse than emos
And if you think chavs are bad, you should see neds.
I think theyre the only people in the world who are born evil.


theyre like chavs

but to the max


Neds?

You mean like Ned's Atomic Dustbin? They were awesome


That's really pathetic.

I saw a group of chavs start a fight with some alternative kids the other day simply fr being alternative. It's fucking ridiculous. Oh and the fight was in TESCO.


A story

about emo kids crying. What's new?


i hate you too


Don't hit me

i'll cry.


i'm a thread

i have no arms, only words.


they are

more painful than sticks and stones, i've heard.


I hate how

"chavs" and "emos" are used in this thread in a similar context to "bloods" and "crips", only a whole lot MORE LAME.


I don't like this

thread. I like that kitten though. This thread is vastly improved.


Was that an unreferenced Bill Hicks joke?

WAS IT? WAS IT? I SMITE YOU!!111!!

Ahem.


I'll reference Bill Hicks!

HOOLIGANS ARE LOOSE!!!!


It doesnt matter

If 6 chavs atarted hitting 4 emos for no other reason than appearance (and they were the same age etc) Then I would want to hit the 6 chavs (slightly excessively) (as long as what I did wouldnt look too ugly in a normal humans eyes) (assuming that I wouldnt get beat)
Hopefully the same should apply if it was 6 emos attacking 4 chavs.

Of course the reason I shouldnt wade in and the reason I wont is because a third party observer does not know whether the attack was unprovoked and totally unjustified, this is the main problems with vigilantiesm, and the fact that many people would have preconceptions about groups to sttart off with, these preconceptions may be usually utterly justified (I honestly do believe that chavs are more likely to attack emos for no reason than the other way round, however this is not always going to be the case, and I could not estimate the likelyhood o otherwise.

Deplore unfair unwarrented picking on, that is what is wrong.

Its attrocious really that the store did not apprehend the groups and then through cctv footage get the police involved, its sad but because they belongg to what authoirities might define as recognisable groups that they will be treated as gangs, and society only seems to get upset at gangs when they upset non gang members.
It also seems that when children are concerned, unprovoked assault and battery are treated as an insignificant misdemaenor, in adults it is a serious offence that would/should be punishable by incarceration.
Similar stuff happens with schoolchildren being threatened or punched to the ground for dinner money. This is violent mugginh, assault and battery, sometimes GBH or ABH, extortion, blackmail etc etc

Yet it is all glossed over as being ''boys will be boys' (basically because they consider it to be unenforcable/provable.

I DETEST AND LOATHE SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS FOR THIS......apparently its not their fault, because their job is very hard.....diddums, do they shpow leniency towards children who cant then go to a school because of what happens to them there....no.

This is basically the root of why chavs pick on emos.....cos they think its alright, because the laws/rules of the playground have taught them that is OK, and ewithing that context you will get away with stuff.

Yours Sincerely
Mr Outraged of Tonbridge Wells


I hate

the term 'chav'. No war but class war.


lol

hello generalisations.com


^^^ to Creakyknees

I have to play devil's advocate and disagree. The root of subcultures such as 'chavs' and 'emos' and violence between them relates more to structural positions in society and cultural solutions to dominant mainstream culture, as well as inevitable friction between subcultures in occupation of cultural space and territory. This has undergone a metamorphisis in postmodern times but essentially it is the same as 'Punks' hating 'Hippies' & 'Mods' v 'Rockers' in times gone by.

Whilst I don't condone bullying or violence in any form particularly in schools, if you start formally processing young people in the criminal justice system they will inevitably become a part of it on a more permanent basis. This is why I disagree with ASBOs - it's a way of criminalising young people through a civil measure, and that is dangerous. If you apply some labelling theory here...if you label people enough as 'criminal' 'scum' 'anti-social' etc. then they adopt that label and live it out. Children need to be kept out of the criminal justice system as much as possible. MOST kids grow out of offending after teenage years. If they have been formally told that they are criminal, and have a formal record telling them, and the world to that effect, thereby reducing employment opportunities then crime will often be the more obvious/gratifying choice in life to take.

So what is the answer? Who knows? Perhaps kids in school who cannot live up to the measuring rod that teachers apply to them and so may resort to bullying/anti social behaviour as a result of their frustration need to have their needs/inadequacies addressed in way that does not make them feel like outsiders.


this is possibly a new contender

for Worst Thread Ever.


I once saw

two 'rock' kids beat the shit into 5 chavs.

It was amazing. The Chavs started the fight and got so creamed.

Fly Kick in the face!


^

I like it when this happens.


Last night

I was standing next to my friend in a club when two emos began taunting him for not being "cool" or whatever. It made me so angry. More so because I know that one of them works in Wilkinsons full time whilst my friend is on a first class degree at university, he was no taller then 5 foot and he has the most ridiculous tattoos of stars and shit all over him which mean nothing apart from he once followed a craze so he could kiss more girls. It made me realise that emos are pretty much just as bad as chavs.
Some people in this country are fucking disgusting.


in my day you were either

a Raver or a metaller.

I used to say Acid Jazz and got left alone so that suited me.


what the fuck

does where one person works and where one person study matter at all?


quite

i <3 student arrogance.


It does


it doesn't

now, answer my question.


it's obvious

it means the one who goes to uni is better than the one who works in wilkinsons!

silly rabbit.


oh!

sorry, my slow, non-university-educated brain takes a while to catch up to all of my intellectual superiors.
:'(


It's alright.


Basically a cunt

was insulting my friend for not being an emo to impress a girl who was also vile. So I pointed out his shortcomings in a similar way.


no, you weren't

you were implying that your friend was, essentially, 'better' because he goes to university.

the first guy was being arrogant and peety, sure, but you weren't really being any different.


I like this thread

carry on


I'm implying my friend is currently in a better position

Yet he showed no hatred towards this guy who deemed himself above him because he follows a trend. I was tired and in a mood. I'll settle at just calling him a cunt.


the concept of 'better'

is entirely a personal one. you lay into him for, essentially, judging your friend by his own personal standards, yet you've done entirely the same thing. clap clap?


I've said this though

If someone acts like an utter cunt you can hardly help but judge them yes?


so why not just say

"he was a cunt", and be done with it?


i just find it amusing

that you think that the fact that he works a 'rubbish' job is as important as him being a nasty human being.


It is trading insults

because he is a nasty human being. You have never done this before?
So when you argue with someone they trade personal insults and you just say "You're a nasty human being." yes?


I haven't

I trade punches.

whilst imposing a tariff on my opponents blows.

Oh yeah...


:D


i would avoid

trying to stoop to their level, if that's what you're asking.


i can definitely see both sides of this one

my serious personality will not allow me to just post sarcastically and leave it at that.

it might be more palatable to word it more like: someone taunts you for not being cool, you realise that this shows that they have no ambition beyond being a posing cunt, and back this up by their willingness to work full time in a supermarket when they're still young enough to go fuck shit up in the wide world.


my annoyance

is the given attitude that apparently working in a supermarket is somehow a less 'valid' choice that makes said person automatically less 'worthwhile'.

i'm not attempting to defend the 'emo' kid's attitude, as it was shitty. but, then again, saying "my friend is doing a first class degree and this guy works in wilkinsons looooool!" is, basically, just as arrogant.

besides, i find it especially laughable, when most of the students i've known / know seem to list "you can go to the pub IN THE DAY!" as one of the best things about university.


so, basically, you're admitting

that you were just being as petty as he was?


No

because I wasn't petty enough to insult someone for no reason.


two wrongs don't make a right

blah di BLAH DI BLAH.


I know

I would like to see you in an argument.


and on consideration i would go this far

if both choices are open to you (which quite often isn't the case) and you don't have ailing parents / kids / etc to support, then going to university for the right reasons (to study something you're interested in) is a more valid choice than working in a supermarket. in my opinion.

also not 'is doing a first class degree', but 'is on a first class degree', i.e. is probably going to achieve one. Implying that he takes uni seriously and isn't just the waster student against whom all your other points were directed.


how many people

actually go to university for the 'right' reasons, though?


that isn't really the point

i would judge an individual on the basis of his or her reasons for going and whether or not they took it seriously. not just assume they were a waster because i have a negative stereotype of all students.


also

a big "lol" at the idea being a student means you're more able to "fuck shit up". i suspect all that most students fuck up is their liver and their future credit ratings.


hahah

not me.

I've bought a new liver already.


How many generalisations about students do you intend to make today?

You're arguing about students assuming that they're better people because they have a degree, whilst insulting and stereotyping them and making thinly veiled assertions that you are in fact better than them.

And yes, I am also a student.


i'm not saying all of them are

but it's an attitude i've come across quite a lot.

also, as anyone who knows me will probably testify, i sure as hell don't think i'm better than a lot of people ;P


it is a fucking tragic waste

that people have to, or choose to, do shit jobs instead of getting to think and develop and read for a few years. and yes, there probably is a limit to how well you can judge this, if you've not been to uni yourself.


by the way

i don't think your job is shit. i do think a lot of jobs are shit though


my job is pretty shit for the record

but the concept of a 'shit job' is a personal thing, surely? for all we know, this kid might do other things outside of work and might appreciate having a job that's low stress and low responsibility.


partly true

though it doesn't sound like he does anything hugely worthwhile. but you're right, we don't know.

but at the same time your job has a far wider impact than just yourself, and if you're happy enough stacking shelves with often unnecessary crap produced with little regard for anything except profit, then you may be happy, but you've still got a shit job.

i'm not saying he's definitely happy with it. why would you be?


i'm not saying he is or isn't either way

and i think your definiton of a job there is a little one sided. you're right to say that your job has a far wider reach than your own little corner, but i don't see how being a graduate frees you from being little more than a cog in the machine.


i didn't say 'being a graduate'

it's not to do with university as a career move, it's to do with having time to think about stuff and maybe making some important formative choices about your opinions and stances in life. WHILE you're there.


I have recently developed

an emo hair cut, and have no idea how it happened, it wasnt like it last week


guntrip got pwned

because breadfan has an extra letter in his name


If i had a fish it would be call Emo.

Then I would lose him then try and find him.

But I don't...so I errr won't. yeah


you got it.

where is that brand new heavies album


I get threats for this all the time.

Because I'm wearing gay jeans.

Its the price I'm willing to pay though. I'm prepared to take shit from people for wearing tighter clothes.

Its like a seive. People who get offended at other people's clothes are absolutely disgraceful. People who don't, are good.

If they started on me though, I would go fucking mental.


i done a stencil 4 foot by 5

saying KILL ALL EMOS! right were they stand and when i done it there was about 4 of them standing there me and my 2 other mates just walked layed the big fucker of a stencil down and started to spray and the faces on them when they saw what it said was priceless!


and ive made lots of stickers saying down with emo! lol

its only harmless fun but there going to get me one day and kick my ass im sure!