I heard something about this advertised on 6music but cannot find anything on the web...apparently a chance to play wireless this year.
Any knowwwwwledge?
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sounds like a scam to me
i mean, who won it last year?
i'd avoid it
I think there
was something in the Independent Music thingy yesterday about this. Haven't read it though
Glasto were doing something similar
a SXSW thing where hundreds of bands pay 40 quid in the hope michael eavis is walking through the office when their song is on, feels like a big big lottery to me...
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would stay away has probably already been decided mate
The unsigned thing for Glastonbury?
That was £10+VAT but you sent a CD into some group that would listen to it. Your CD also goes into the national archives apparently, though given they only last about 5 years tops I'd hope they copy it to something.
Anyway, I don't think there was any suggestion of 'scam' about it. There's only about 1600-2000 bands that enter and there are four different stages to win a place on.
i stand corrected sir!
<blush> sxsw still sucks though ;p
Yeah, there was
a 4-page article about it in yesterday's Independent with all the details
My band has just been my-spammed with the info.....
Hither:
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hello
My name's Josh and I'm running this years O2 Undiscovered from this MySpace page.
With O2 Undiscovered we're getting top A&R people from Polydor to spend a day in an O2 store in more cities than last year around the country - London, Brighton, Leeds, Manchester and Glasgow. Unsigned acts can come down for free and get their music listened to and have 1to1 chats, advice, constructive criticism and tips from them. All they have to do is register on our website.
We're also running the competition which is free to enter.
If you upload your tracks to the O2 site which is at http://www.o2undiscovered.co.uk you stand the chance to win a bursary and support prize which includes studio time to record two tracks under the guidance of Polydor, a digital release, the chance to play at the O2 Wireless Festival, O2 handsets, £5000 of equipment, a photo shoot and styling, legal and production support, and time with selected mentors and the judging panel, which includes, among other leading industry figures, Andy Taylor from Duran Duran, Simon Banks (KT Tunstall’s manager), DJ Spoony and Anton Brooks from Bad Moon Publicity.
not a bad prize eh?
Hope you’re alright
Either me or one of our scouts will try and get down to see one of your gigs in the next couple of weeks to say hello
Josh
From that website
After last year's storming success, when finalists JAG went bounding onto Zane Lowe's playlist and played a series of blinding gigs all over the UK, this year's O2 Undiscovered promises to be even bigger and better. And it's open to any genre – rock, country, hip hop. Whatever the style, we want to hear it.
JAG!
I think....
... that says it all really.
It's getting avoided like the plague.
I'd love
to meet someone that went to one of these 'blinding' gigs.
And do you suppose they ever come near these messageboards anymore? Reading that contract I feel a little sorry for them.
JAG
For 'blinding' gigs
read: 'half-filled-with-an-unbothered-crowd-who-clapped-politely-whilst-waiting-for-a-mates-band-to-come-on' gigs
Actually it didn't look that bad until I saw this:
The Promoter does not claim ownership of the Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials] you submit and you continue to own all rights in such Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials]. However, by submitting your Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials], you hereby grant to O2 a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, sub-licensable, royalty-free right and licence to copy, use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, perform, play, make available to the public (on O2's services or elsewhere), exploit, transmit, distribute in any media now known or later developed and otherwise deal in or with and exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to the Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials] for the full term of any rights that may exist in your Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials] as O2 may require. This licence is granted on a non-exclusive basis, except that the Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials] submitted by the winner of the Competition (and, subject to the provisions set out in paragraph 22 below, any recordings made by the winner of the tracks contained in the Music Entry) shall be licensed to O2 on an exclusive basis for a period of one year from the end of the Competition. Unless agreed otherwise in writing, O2 will not make any payments to you or any third party for its use of your Music Entry and/or Visual Materials. By submitting your Music Entry and/or Visual Materials, you also agree to waive all moral rights in such Music Entry [and/or Visual Materials
Ouch.....
DEFINATELY getting avoided like the plague with herpes on top.
jesus....
"you hereby grant to O2 a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, sub-licensable, royalty-free right and licence to copy, use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, perform, play, make available to the public (on O2's services or elsewhere), exploit, transmit, distribute in any media now known or later developed and otherwise deal in or with and exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to the Music Entry"
taking it to another level... I watched this when it was on tv for some reason.
JAG!
Well you only upload 1 song
so on that basis I wouldn't be too bothered since if I didn't believe we have and could write better songs I wouldn't bother.
BUT, as that song is also due to go out on a free-to-download netlabel I don't like the idea of O2 claiming lone rights and giving them shit.
whatever way you look at it
it's all a bit dodgy. The prizes do look quite tempting as the cost is only giving one track away for free download (i suppose it depends what o2 plan to use it for). But... it could be career suicide.
However, one redeeming factor is that the panel of judges includes DJ spoony of "Dreem Team" fame.
http://www.myspace.com/jagsound
the band I'm in
did an o2 musicflash gig germany recently and it was one nauseating branding exercise for which they would have the right to use any material for their promotion - you don't lose any of your own rights though so...
on the plus side they recorded the whole gig on 24 track and filmed with 3 cameras which gives us all the material to put out a live DVD which would otherwise have cost us a lot of money
fact is that in the creative industries these days everyone is making a packet apart from the artists themselves...
sad but true
well yes...
this only happens because bands are so fucking desperate
sad really
It's not just in music though
it happens in TV, film, fashion, etc
all the creative industries
there should probably be some kind of anti-exploitation law against it
so many artists
in the creative industrues, fashion designers, models, presenters and musicians, are desperate because of the marketing of the ones that have 'made it'.
Bands see other bands with little to no talent plastered on magazines and tv shows and think, "i could do that".
With Regards to this O2 thing, i doubt many bands actually achieve much from this sort of thing (the Subways won somthing similar i think?), and even then its normally fleeting success.