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by Rachelle Ansell

Soooooo according to John Peel Bury St Edmunds is the “New Seattle”. That possibly doesn’t quite fit seeing as Bury is a little town with a disproportionate number of bloody good bands covering most genres whilst Seattle is flippin’ huge and the birthplace of grunge.

For the opening band Lamina, however, grunge is certainly not dead. Cousin It from the Addams Family is alive and well and playing bass with them. Their set could possibly scare five year olds as their lead singer howls like a man who’s discovered his foot has been lobbed off by a crazed witch and plays guitar like a person suffering from an epileptic fit. On speed – obviously. They finish by throwing their guitars around in the good old-fashioned way and storm off to sit looking a wee bit dazed for the rest of the day.

Next up are a reformed-for-the-day Billion Dollar Brain and they are the first band to actually storm Pestellos, and not off the stage, with songs that are about 2 years old but damn fine nonetheless. The kids – This is the youngest audience I have seen for aaaaages. When I say “the kids” I don’t mean the over 20s like in Lahndahn – strut their stuff to Billion Dollar Brain’s punk pop. And no they don’t sound a bit like Blink 182. More like the bastard child of Kenickie and iDLEWILD with added shouty bits and a shambolic approach to playing live that is more endearing than a pain in the proverbial.

However after about 10 minutes of Strumpet I’m ready to escape to the accoustic stage. As one heckler points out: “LIMP BIZKIT”. Indeed. Their lead singer does bear more than a passing resemblance to Mr Durst, and their songs bear a more than a passing resemblance to Green Day. Now I have got nothing in particular against Green Day but I do have the attention span of a goldfish and Strumpet didn’t really grab me by the scruff of my neck and make me sit up.

The accoustic stage offers us such delights in the afternoon as Seymour Glass from Miss Black America on his own, Seymour dueting with Ellie Langley from Blue Gandhi and Seymour going back onstage with Greg Mcdonald from the Dawn Parade for yet another duet (and to claim the Carol Vordeman prize for prolificity). All this after rocking onstage with Billion Dollar Brain. The highlights are a beautiful rendition of Scarface and the duet with Ellie Langley, mainly as it showcases Ellie’s brilliant voice that sounds like a high pitched PJ Harvey.

Back on the main stage Ex-Billion Dollar Brain bassist Laura has re-joined her current band The Bardo to fill the venue with the sort of intense noise that induces feelings of mild claustrophobia, takes over your brain and makes you want to go and find a table to hide under. The view from under a table is that The Bardo are Ones-To-Watch (oh balls, I’m starting to sound like Smitta Smitten Showbiz Kitten now.) er…umm…they’re pretty damn good and have the potential to give an NME journalist who’s been listening to Alfie for the past year a damn good headache. Which they deserve dammit!

Blue Gandhi would be IDied if they tried to get served at the bar, it’s their lead singer Ellie’s 16th birthday on the 23rd (the day after the gig) so she gets cake and a rendition of Happy Birthday. Blue Gandhi sound truly innovative, truly different in a world populated by rock-by-numbers, nu-metal and genre mixing a-go-go it is a relief to find something with edgy vocals and skittish guitars that defies classification. All performed by a band that look like they’ve raided the dressing up box.

Becky Jago are another band to bring something different to the party. It’s very fashionable at the moment to pair up rock and hip hop, metal and hip hop. But so far only Becky Jago have thought of going back 60 years to create…er…jazz-metal? Nu-jazz? Aaah sod it, whatever it is it sounds rather incongruous. Try picturing in your mind a band that goes from freeform to a screaming guitar-frenzied madness and back again. Like a John Peel show in under 4 minutes.

Now I’m sure you all know the tragic story behind Richey Edwards’ disappearance. Whilst most people think he’s either turned into fishfood or has done a Reggie Perin I can now exclusively reveal that he was kidnapped by a mad scientist who cloned him a few times and created The Dawn Parade. Or something. They are so highly camp, so highly glam and so highly flamboyant that their singer Greg Macdonald makes Freddie Mercury look decidedly macho as he shimmies and twirls about onstage flanked by a band in the scariest looking shirts this side of the early ‘70s. In “surreal moment of the night” they are joined by a bloke wearing some tights and a worksite helmet with tubes glued on it, a glittery grass skirt, oversized t-shirt and a pair of sun glasses. I dunno why….I guess he just felt like it.

The second reformed-band-for-the-day are Chevette, who apparently are the dinosaurs of the Bury Scene being around before there even was any scene to speak of. Like Billion Dollar Brain they are still good 3 years on.

So back to the newbies: Miss: Spelt Yoof, purveyors of nu-metal that puts most American bands to shame. For a start there are no sodding whiny vocals, and no (as far as I could hear) self pitying lyrics that just make me want to whack whole bands around the face with a wet trout (I’m sorry…they’re pet hates of mine.I’m getting a bit carried away aren’t I?) Like The Bardo the sound is dark, intense, fucking scary and unlike The Bardo if you suffer from a nervous disposition I suggest you go and give them a wide berth as their singer’s screaming could wake the dead and get them moshing.

As M:SY leave the stage the room for the main stage fills up for Miss Black America. Now let me point out a little thing about Pestellos: it has no proper air-conditioning. Which it needs like a drunk needs meths. This is not a good thing as by 6pm it was like an oven that was ready to roast a chicken and bands were chucking water on the audience and themselves. By the time Miss Black America took to the stage even with the loading out doors wide open it had more in common with Dante’s Inferno than the newest addition to the toilet circuit.

Without a doubt however tightly any of the preceding bands played and whatever entertainment value they gave most of the people there came for Miss Black America. They opened with an electrifying “Human Punk” that had the first 8 rows jumping around like people stung by jellyfish. They continued with “Scream For Me”, “I Am Not A Virgin”, “Miss Black America”, “Personal Politics” and possibly some more songs that I can’t for the life of me remember. As we get our bones crushed Seymour leaps around like a jumping bean on Red Bull, getting the crowd to sing along with him for “Miss Black America” (the song) and then what was shaping up to be the best band of the evening just plummets back down to earth with a bump so hard I swear the floor must’ve shook. Neil the Drummer is feeling faint due to the heat. And has a break as the rest of MBA arse around to keep things interesting whilst themselves trying to find some water. Even with two people fanning him Neil still can’t stand the heat and ends up going offstage again. By the time he’s been dragged back for last song, “The White Noise Inc.”the plug gets pulled on them cos it’s 10.30. The sense of disappointment is tangible and it’s a fucking shame it happened. “C’est la vie” to quote B*witched.

Overall the Baby Barbecue was a success (ahem, this is a bit like stating that the Pope is a Catholic), although there was no John Peel, and there was enough talent in those two rooms to merit a couple of music journos to get off their fat bums and venture up the M11.

  • Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer 9 / 10
Words: Rachelle Ansell

Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Hmmm nearly full marks you give this day, I don't understand, the Break ummm sorry Pestellos is an absolute dump, it's disgusting and to make it worse the whole place was filled with stupid little glitter kids who seen to have invaded Bury and just won't go away. The day was not good it was hot. OK some of the bands were good, Blue Ghandi are excellent. However for me Miss spelt Yoof dispite their terrible name made the day with their mixture of hip hop and metal that actually sounds original even though it's been done so many times before. The band arn't scary they're funny with classics such as Shoe how could you not laugh. They blend ACTUAL hip hop sounds think Black Eyed Peas and cross it with the darkest screeming only on a par with the likes of Mudvayne and Raging Speedhorn. Each song has bits you can sing along to and bits you can head bang to and really, what more do you need? This is the first time I had heared the band and in all truthfullness they rocked.
I can't believe you came all the way up to the shit hole that is Bury. I also can't believe you did not spend more time writing about Miss Spelt Youth. But what I really can't believe is that you think you have even an ounce of talent in music journalism. Sorry I'm being far to harsh but your article has really concentrated on the people not the music which is the bit I wanted to read about as I'm sure will most peole who are not friends with Ellie and Seymore and are therfore not that bothered about there antics during the day.
I wanted to read about the rifts, the turn tables, the vocals, what was good, what wasn't. What were the songs called and what did they sound like?
Well prehaps it's just me.

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Why would you wanna read about it if you were there? You know what it was like... you just told us anyway!

dinosaurs and eggs

You've hit on an age old argument about live reviews. Whether they should focus on the music or the event. To be fair, I think Rachelle did a good job of shortly and sweetly summing up the essence of the day. She wasn't there to give people a strum by scratch dissection of the whole day, cus to do that would of meant the length of her review, per band and then she would of cured any kind of insomina known to (wo)man. The problem is, if you make things too long, people don't read. If you make them succint and manage to sum up the whole day, then isn't that more important?

BTW We don't claim to be professional journalists. Just for the record.

And as for getting more about Miss:spelt Yoof, I'm reviewing their demo in the next day or so, ok? The whole idea of Sunday was to get people more interested in the bands and to spread the word about noteable acts. We can get to the guts of them given a bit of time.

q: Was it intentionally ironic that you began your post talking about the people and then told us bands were good but not why? Just curious.

Re: dinosaurs and eggs

No it wasn't intentional and yes that is a valid critisism obviously you are much cleverer then me. However I would like to point out that I wasn't writing a review. If I had been I would have put why the bands were good and a little bit of people talk is ok, sets the atmosphere and lets people who wern't there get a feel of the place and the event.
I also accept your counter argument about Rachelle's piece she did shortly and sweetly sum up the day and just because her writing style is differnt to mine does not make it bad so I am sorry. I have never written a review before and if I do it probably won't be any better and I didn't mean to be so bitchy.
BTW I didn't say anything about professional jornalism. Just for the record.
Sunday was a good idea and it's great that there is so much talent in our little town. I hope you like the Miss: Spelt Yoof demo Sean and once again I apologise for my overly harsh message.
PS. Is it just me that reads reviews of gigs I have been too. I always like to see how other peole found them only C.W. seems to find this strange.


what the F**K are you on?

Some people eh? You just can't please 'em. Jen sounds like s/he's rather mixed up and doesn't know WHAT s/he wants! Rachelle does not know Seymour and Ellie, just as she didn't know any of the bands who played on Sunday. Because she's not from Bury, but made the effort to come and see us and help put us on the map so that the fantastic bands based here get heard by more people. I think thanks are due, not hostility. *Big up Rachelle*
As for Pestellos being an absolute dump, if Jen got out more she would know that 98% music venues in the country are toilets. I for one am proud that Bury St Edmunds has its own toilet at last, where local bands like mis:spelt yoof can play for local people. Where else would they be able to play in Bury? Nowhere, that's where.
If Jen had the guts to post your email address I would have sent something along the lines of this to her/him direct and invited her/him out for a beer to see what exactly the problem is (apart from the atrocious spelling and grammar, obviously).
Oh, and by the way, as far as I know there were no rifts to speak of.
It was an ace day, all the bands were inspiring (especially the headfuck that was Vosine/Face), and I can't wait for the next one!!!!!
x x x x x

Re: what the F**K are you on?

Apologies - the spelling & grammar slag off looks rather lame now, doesn't it!!

pestellos and it's dumplike nature ...

so what if it is a dump ? surely it's better to have great music in a shithole than Travis and the Stereophonics live in the Hanging Gardens of Babylon,
or maybe that's just me ... but i've never come back from a gig and thought "shit music, nice venue".

The Break

Personally I really like it there. The security are chumps who really should be booted off to Tr*vis and Stereochronics gigs as I think it would better suit them, but other than that the only really bad thing I can think of about the Break is the digusting state of the ceiling (damp stains - Mmmm, Lovely!). I've been to plenty of damn good gigs there and that's the point surely? In fact I love ALL the venues around here. I LOVE THIS PLACE, MAN! *feels overcome with emotion for this quaint little corner of Britain*.
Especially the Ladies Loos at Man On The Moon in Cambridge, it's my spiritual home.
Appreciate it while it's here folks, stop focusing on the negative aspects of it all. Cheer up and stop being so fucking miserable! This place really isn't that bad, it's all relative. Just think you could live in Ethiopia. Or even worse, Kings Lynn!!! Or Newmarket!!!
Steph
xxx
ps Baby BBQ was indeed fantastic, the Dawn Parade played particularly well I thought. M:SY were also brilliant, and I was pleasantly surprised to see some of my not-particularly-interested-in-live-music friends who had come along for the day enjoying themselves deep in the thresholds of the moshpit. Some converts there, I do believe!
pps I always read reviews of gigs I've been to. Often fills in the gaps missing from my memory... Nice to meet you Rachelle by the way! See you on Sunday at Camden Dublin Castle or whatever it is, should be a blinder. :o)
pps the only thing I particularly object to in Jen's post is her reference to glitter kids invading Bury. I don't consider myself a glitter kid, but I object to the labelling of people as with the whole trendy/grebo thing. I think it absolutely stinks, you really can't judge a person by what they wear or what music they listen to (although a lot of the time you can smell their 'attitude' a mile off). Rant over.
Steph
xxx

Re: The Break

Yeah - surely the fact that kids (including me) are getting involved in local music and looking beyond the usual radio-kerrang-NME endorsed stuff is a good thing to be encouraged as opposed to an unwelcome and intrusive 'invasion' of some kind of adults-and-sophisticated-people-only scene which appears to exist only in your head. If it weren't for the 'glitter kids' would the day have sold out? Saying that because someone is a certain age and dresses a certain way they're not fit to be at the all dayer is a load of utter bollocks and unjustifiable.

Who the f**k are you?

Who the f**k are you?
And Miss:Spelt Yoof, original? Ever heard of a band called SENSER, or are you too young? Oh yeah, and that shoe song, pure genius. Anyway, when I was the age of the 'glitter kids' you spend your time bemoaning, Bury was full of NOTHING except Kappa-slappers, sitting with bottles of hooch on the Corn Exchange steps, while anyone who even dared to be different was obused in the street by Gary-boy Tosswits. Now it seems the Tosswits have infiltrated our world. Watch your backs people, someone as clueless and narrow-minded as Jen could be in the room right now.

Re: Who the f**k are you?

Here here, Mr. Wild. I actually rather liked M:SY, but I'll let that pass, 'cos we don't have to agree on everything.....
I do agree with the point on the 'glitter kids' though. The fact that I am now 25 means that I can usually wear what the fuck I like without anyone batting an eyelid, so I had forgotten the anger and irritation that being picked on for trying to look that little bit 'different' can cause. I s'pose that 'cos no-one does it to me anymore, I thought that it didn't happen. But I was clearly relying on the essential tolerance and goodness of human nature. A quality which was very lacking when I was at school, and clearly hasn't become any more widespread since. Jen, if you are upset with people purely because they look different to you, then you a very, very sad individual.

Re: Who the f**k are you?

Jim,

who are senser? None of us has even heard of them so it must be coincidence - read the article 'bout us in hmm juicy ok, then you'll get the picture about us.

and cheers for the shoe comment, nice one! also, i agree with ya re: kappa slags and the low life infiltrating the alto-scene, my g/f was bullied by aload of gary's last year who are all now {surprise} glitter gilrs!

bunch of fakes,

anyways l8ers,

Matt

Re: Who the f**k are you?

See Matts comment about glitter girls?That is exactly the point I was making. I have nothing againts peole being differnt I activly encourage it, but being a glitter kid isn't differnt it's exactly the same as everyone else, last year they were wearing addidas trousers and laughing at anyone who dared to wear a skirt with, shock horror, trousers. This year they seem to have embraced the style. Obviously this does not count for all glitter kids, there are always exceptions that make the rule but it is the truth for alot of them. It's all about the style and not about the music which I guess is the part I have a problem with that and the fact they all look the same they are still being sheep.
I have never heared of Senser but if they sound anything like Miss:spelt youth I would most certainly like too. Thank you so much for bringing them to my attention.
PS. Sorry about my spelling Tiggr I happen to be dyslexic but thank you anyway for bringing it to my attention because that doesn't happen enough in school every day!

Re: Who the f**k are you?

True, being different is cool when ur one of a few like it, i.e glitter gilrs (who are cool dont get me wrong) but how any girls were wearing there skirts over jeans, bracelets and necklaces last year? none, theyre all the bullies who had a pop at my g/f for being, wait for it....

a goth
a freak
a grebo
a metaller

ooooh well bite me!

2 faced fake ass futhamuck$

romance is dead in youth culture

just to voice my agreement with the ever-entertaining jen and matt; sheep will flock wherever the shepherds at top shop lead them, be it up the mount of the motorhead tee or into the valley of the madonna stetson...
branding has raped youth culture of all meaning and romance, because it steals your own personal ability to develop within an idea or movement... everything is branded and sold ready made; want to buy into indie cool, mel c? get our new grunge gel, for the girl who feels that existential suffering... wannabe an angry metal-mutha? buy one of our wicky wicky nu baseball hats...
this is all nothing, of course, compared to the miserable, all pervasive spiritual pollution taking place on every billboard and tv screen in britain; at one time, we found meaning in ideas - in 2001, meaning is which brand of trainer you buy...

Youth culture is dead for romantics.

It's a sad fact, but life is an incresingly consumerised and compartmentalised place to be. I appreciate m'learned friend's comments on the problems of individuality in a consumer culture, but it is getting very hard to be an individual these days. Wherever you go, there's some other poor sod trying to look the same, usually totally oblivious to your claim on your own identity. We all do what we can to be able to sleep at night without fear of nightmares of clones of ourselves surprising us as we leave the house in the morning, but no-one (aside from the ex-Princess Di) has a copyright on their own image. And frankly, the idea of that stinks anyway. If certain people all dress the same, then it's part of an identity which they all want to share. If it's 'glitter girls', Mods, Rockers, Punks, Metallers, Goths or whatever, then fair enough. Consider it a good thing that it's no longer the 'Adidas look'. I went to an Auteurs gig once, and everyone was dressed just like me. It was a shock, I can tell ya.....

Dead youth is culture for... oh, hang on...

The mass "rape" of youth culture by corporations is undaoubtably tragic to an extent, but at least glitter being deemed "in" this week means that people who wouldn't otherwise turn up at "our" gigs or buy "our" records do - and who knows, it might change their lives. At the end of the day, everyone gets to be a hypocrite at some point in their lives. Who cares how people got into a band, or what they liked before? When I started Upper School, I listened to Genesis and Technotronic and wore Fat Willy's T-shirts and had posters of Simple Minds on my wall. I "went indie" 'cause the coolest kid in my class said my music was sad and I wanted to be like him. He lent me a Carter record, and nearly a decade later I'm still listening to it. I hated it to begin with, but I stuck with it and they remain the band I hold the softest spot in my heart for.

The challenge now is to grab people's attentions and hold them long enough for some of what you're saying to sink in. And, having seen a dead town like Bury St Edmunds suddenly become Youth Capital of the World in a matter of months almost entirely of its own accord, I remain optimistic that things can and will get better.

There's a rising tide of anti-corporate feeling in the world at large as it is, and at risk of sounding like some anarcho-crusty type, I think it'll get to the point where things will have to change. People are becoming far more clued-up to the ways and workings of this world - it'll take years, maybe decades, but I think eventually, the more and more people realise how badly we're all being fucked over, something will have to give. If America doesn't wipe us all out with toxic gases or biological weapons in the meantime, that is...

Re: Dead youth is culture for... oh, hang on...

Is a dwarf of the 7 variety. Or a word to describe the Sugarbabes!
Bored now lets talk about sumthing else.

Re: Dead youth is culture for... oh, hang on...

Is a god awful song by Alexander O'Neal

Re: Dead youth is culture for... oh, hang on...

Oh, do please regale us with your efforts to change the world and let us all know where we are going wrong, mrs holier-than-thou. How can one person's beliefs be seen as fake, and actions be seen as worthless? Surely then everyone is thinking and living in some 'Matrix'-style computer game and we should just all stop giving a shit and enjoy the scenery .

What a patronising tone this Libby has. Is she your mum?

Re: Dead youth is culture for... oh, hang on...

cna you just quickly give me the low down on whos fighting who right now? Just quickly - in one message - please?!! Just because I'm more than a little lost. And who has the holier than thou attitude?

And why can't you people accept your differences?!!!!Anyway, someone, whoever, I'm not particularly fussy, just tell me whats going on!!! Sorry, I can't get the hang of all the weird arguments. Cheers.

Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

rachelle,
thanks for making the effort to come up to this blue rinsed nothing town and lend your ear to a bunch of rock'n'roll nobodies like me... the effort is appreciated...
my highlight of the day was roy mcface and dr vosine's workshop... never witnessed an hour of improvisation using only a toy casio keyboard and an aleisis that was quite so unsettlingly involving as that...
golly, jen, didn't rachelle give enough space to your special favourites? for fuck's sake, someone just made the effort to come to bury st fucking edmunds and review our little day... is whingeing and throwing rattles really the best you can do by way of gratitude?
and all you glitterkids - thanks for coming along... hope you all got a cheap kick or five out of it... roll on the baby jesus barbecue this christmas... love and poison, greg dawn parade xxx

Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Hi Rachelle , nice to have met you and to have read your concise , perceptive and informative review . Not easy to cover so much in one day .
So thanks for coming and see you again.

Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Good lord, I leave this thing alone for a while and armageddon erupts.

Jen: Believe it or not yes I did come to Bury St Edmunds from sunny London,no I didn't know 99% of the bands there or funnilly enough anybody in the audience.
Whilst I'm here actually I should give a mention to Schmid, editor on Mmmmmjuicy fanzine and say that it is very very good indeed. If any of you see her around, collar her and buy a copy of it.
Fairy nuff, you do have a point with my reviewing style. I don't focus on music that much if I'm reviewing gigs mainly because my memory doesn't go as far as remembering what the bands actually *sounded* like. I can't tell you what songs were played because the only band I'd heard before turning up like a lost soul on Pestellos doorstep were Miss Black America. I can tell you what their songs were since I went out and got their single from a record shop. So I knew about 3 songs.
Also go back and re-read the bit about Miss: Spelt Yoof. I would agree with you that they were one of the best bands of the evening and I gave them a positive review, ie: saying that they didn't sound like the average nu-metal band and I think that an ability to "wake the dead and get them moshing" is worth something.

As for toilet venues: you are very welcome to come to London and visit the King's Head in Fulham and its crappy sound system. At least you could hear the bands at Pestellos.

Anyways it was a pleasure to be there, and I'll be seeing the Dawn Parade and MBA on sunday.
love
Rachelle xx

PS

Hello to everybody I met. xx

Re: PS

Hey Rachelle,
It was lovely meeting you on Sunday. I think you have done a fantastic job of reviewing the baby bbq. I totally understand what you mean by not remembering what a bands sound is exactly like. Lamina for example, I can't for the life of me remember what they sounded like, i just know it didn't butter my muffin. At all. Although I’ve been told people were doubling up mine and Steph’s fanzines for glow sticks during their set. Which made me smile :o)-like that.
The future is bright, the future is Juicy!


Re: PS

Hello! It was most cool to meet you. I should, if all goes to plan, see you again on sunday - my turn to travel foolishly but justifiably far...

Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

If Seymour and the rest of MBA do live it like their mission statement say's. Why do they insist on ripping off their local fans with half cut half arsed versions of the live set they are capable of producing? Also, well done Seymour with your little self mutilation marks on your arm you are certainly influencing a whole new band of Richie wannabies in your home town from what I saw Sunday.
Get yourself together, lets have more Rob Tyner and less Knob shiner.

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

And to add why do we have to suffer Pestellos trained chimp of a D.J. playing his coperate oh so funny kiddy pop and lame sweary hip hop everytime MissBlack America play there? So much for being real and saying something.

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Exactly what the marks on my arms have to do with anything I'm not sure - what am I expected to do, walk around in long-sleeved T-shirts all my life? I'm hardly proud of them, but they're not going to magically go away.

As for the DJ being an enemy of "real" music and playing (shock!) POP and (horror!) hip-hop, if you don't like S Club 7 or Public Enemy, leave the room. Everyone else seemed to be enjoying themselves. In fact, JUST FUCK OFF. Run your own fucking festival. (Somewhere with air-conditioning so the bands don't all nearly die of heatstroke... "Half-cut"? The people standing at the bar were literally dripping with sweat, let alone those of us jumping around like monkeys.)

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

I suggest stop cutting your arms Seymour, the marks are fresh. It's not big and not clever and you're in your twenties and an idol to all the little misshapes of Bury. They're already copying you just like you did in your teens to Ritchie.

The fact is when I first saw your band you walked it like you talked it you were for real, as Ritchie would carve it. You had verve and style backed up with directed anger which any band could be proud of. In fact I was proud of you. The last two gig's in Bury have compared to your own high standards have been utter shite. You are taking the piss out of your own fans and more importantly yourself. The total unprofessionality of Sundays performance was unforgivable and don't blame the heat no-one else had the problems your band did. Come on pull yourself together you have talent but your immaturity and ego is letting it slip.
This is your wake up call. Fucking heed it!

As for Mr Gray, yeah, yeah, always trying to be resonable as usual, get some balls David and find a new group to latch on to 'cause according to to the talk in the Grapes Miss Black America don't want or need you anymore.

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

r-e: the balls quote I only half one the doctor wouldn't let me keep the other. As you know how ill i was that was a very cheep shot which you, of all people should be above. I refer you to the last song played by Becky Jago on sunday.
Davex

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Could I just add Mr Gooch knows more about music the anybody I know that includes Gish and has organised and attended more anti-establishment demos-events and been involved in enough direct action to put all of us to shame.
I respect the guy for that. That's about all I have ever respected him for, though.

Hi! I'm a BAD INFLUENCE.

Well who the fuck is he then? Apart from a thoroughly insensitive, callous bitch. Is he in a band? Did he spend any time on that stage on Sunday (since when was it "unprofessional" to collapse from heat)? And why is he doing all this in public? It's not like I don't give out my e-mail address.

I'll never understand some people. Probably a good thing.

P.S. - What I do with my body is my business, you cunt.

Re: Baby Barbecue 2001 All-Dayer - Bury St Edmunds Pestellos

Michael,

just who the fuck are you? What have u done? What makes u so fucking amazing?

Personally have no time for people like u, jumped up little opinionated twats - i hear u go to protests and rallies, maybe they make u feel 'cool' and 'anarchistic' well u aint - little tits like deserve to get shot by police at rallies, infact gas the lot of ya, fucking trouble makers!

i mean being a marxist i can sympathis with plight and peaceful protest etc but not fucking rallies, what bollox!

i mean im not trying to slag off mba or blue gandhi but theyre playing a benefit gig for the ANL but do u see multi-cultural, multi-ethnical miss:spelt yoof, who have seen nazi action in the face and been a victim of it being invited to play?

no,

nevermind,

f.o.d mr.gooch aka TWAT,

Matt M:SY

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infact take back the anl gig comment back guys, im a little heated by mr.gooch (necrophiliac extraordinaire) slagging off quigley!

mr gooch, people close to me deal with things by scarification because its their way of dealing with pain, emotion etc - it is not done to 'show off' or be 'cool' - steve is not like that ok, so shut ur fat mouth or M:SY will kick some shit u biggot.

thanks for your precious time,

\m/ matt m:sy \m/

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hey, there's an intelligent debate raging about arm slicing and its shock-horror titillations... how shall we resolve this complex and taxing controversy, in order that greater wisdom might bestow us all? ah, i know, matt - how about with threats of mindless violence and arse-kicking? just like crazy old genghis khan in the old days... that'll show mean old michael not to pick on our buds...
a hell of a lot of people i know cut their arms up, too, and just about none of them do it to deal with pain; they do it out of some diseased desperation for attention... otherwise, we wouldn't know the little red marks were there, would we?
kids, it's your body, do what the fuck you like to it... cover yourself in kerosene and spark up a marlboro for all i care... but don't expect me to be impressed at the burns...

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As usual Gregs is the man. Ahh maturity!
O.K Seymour deal with the band problems now. You haven't answered my points about that yet. As for raising it on here rather than e-mails it brings it all into the open. Where it needs to be. Face it, if you're going to be a rockstar you going to get this all the time. So shout out your beliefs, redesign your agenda, go on demo's and fucking agitate. Don't turn into what you hate. Have fun kids I'm off to cause some real trouble.
x

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I do go on marches. I do "agitate". And the only thing that puts me off going again is self-righteous "tee-hee, I'm so bad" anarcho-snotboy cunts like you who spend hours ranting on about "humanity" but have no idea how to treat other humans.

WE ARE NOT THE LEVELLERS. WE ARE NOT THE ROYAL FUCKING BALLET. Sometimes, our drummer is going to fall off his stool. Sometimes, things will go wrong. Sometimes, I might not feel like ranting, Bono-style, at an audience about the fucked-up system and how we should be bringing it all down, maaaan. If you want reminding how safe, smug and bland rock 'n' roll can be, go and watch Travis or Starsailor or Robbie Bastard Williams. If you want to be screamed at by a demented socialist worker, go and watch Atari Teenage Riot. I think if you don't like what we've become (now that we can afford yachts and everything), you probably got the wrong end of the stick in the first place.

We do shout, loud and clear, about what we believe - it's in our songs, it's on our website, it's in our mailouts. If you want a audience so we can ram it down your throat in person, we're quite willing to oblige. But we're not a band with a "manifesto" - we're not about to fill your ears with revolutionary rhetoric, or with justifications for self-abuse, or why my band may or may not have been up to their usual high standard at one gig or another. Because that's really quite boring. And I'd rather speak to real people about real stuff. Rather than some more-revolutionary-than-thou idiot who proves nothing, except to reinforce the sad fact that, in the right hands, ANYTHING can be used as a penis extension.

Have fun smashing the system, you kerrazy kat,
love from Seymour xxx