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NME : ( decent muso mag?

i dont *actually* read NME..
BUT i thought it would be a good idea to last week and ShOCk HORrOR it was all blocpartutheothersrazorlightthelibertines et al.....
and i saw in a few places it was all "more from this band next week" ie, we just told you all about the flipping razorlight wankers, and now we shall repeat it next week! happy reading chums....
unimpressed. , )
and really, i fail to belive that bloc party are emo... but i will check it for myself if i can bring myself to. do you not find that they are one of those bands you dont like to admit liking, but actually secretly do? meh, probably just me on that one... they are after all "the new franz"

decent music paper ?? anyone? i figure kerrang(!) is emo.....
freerangefrog | 07 Feb '05, 14:29 | Send note | Report this | Reply


  • Re: NME : ( decent muso mag?

    Can't think of one. On a related question, what would actually make a decent music paper?
    Durutti | 7 Feb '05, 14:31 | Reply

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      errrm, i dont know really. covering a wide range of genres without being snobby about certain ones... ie i think NME favour the whole (cant think of genre title) libertines/kaiserchiefs/razorlight people over some other stuff.
      freerangefrog | 7 Feb '05, 14:34 | Reply

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    I accidentaly got a Kerrang as someone had stuffed it inside the copy of the NME I bought. It was a very bad magazine but very humourous especially the letters page which was full of Fightstar. The NME is an alright read though but I see what you mean about the reoccuring bands. The worst issues involve letting bands/groups take over. GLC's was painful and Franz's was too pretentious and fanzine like.
    Patricide | 7 Feb '05, 14:33 | Reply

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      NME goes on and on and on and on about the same old boring things - Libertines, Razorlight and how cool Pete is for being a junkie and how Heroin is now cool.
      Yes - that was it was saying in its Christmas Issue, how cool it was to be a Junkie and how Heroin is the new social club.
      Responsible magazine eh?
      Psyche | 7 Feb '05, 14:36 | Reply

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        They've never been responsible and it was ridiculous when they began condemning Doherty for missing gigs when they'd not only let him top their cool list but revelled in his antics and spent all summer going on about shrooms. Still we all know it's juvenile. the one thing I can't hack in the NME is the Queens Of Noize.
        Patricide | 7 Feb '05, 14:39 | Reply

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        It doesn't have to be responsible or even tasteful - I quite liked the dead fashion thing Bang did before it imploded, you know, mock up pics of dead musicians in their final moments, all posed to show off their clothes. Sickos.
        It just has to be good. There's loads of posts slagging the NME but what could they do to put it right? And no, I don't do their marker research for them.
        Durutti | 7 Feb '05, 14:39 | Reply

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      yeh, see i dont actually mind kerrang...
      *emo kid in denial* i feel
      freerangefrog | 7 Feb '05, 14:36 | Reply

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        yup, in the past 6 months ive had a couple of NME's like 2nd hand from m'dad or whatever and in every single one i have, there is an interview with Jonny Borrel!! who is a prick. the interviews only prove this!! why does anyone think he's capable of being cool.
        freerangefrog | 7 Feb '05, 14:38 | Reply

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      NME is fairly poor and tend to stick with the big players so far as i can see, I only buy it when you get a free CD. Sadly, there seems to be little competition, let's all bemoan the end of Melody Maker and Select. Select was great, sometimes it came in a box with some nik naks. Does anyone remember the magazine Indiecator? It was colour and everything, think I may still have a copy at home, with the bands I liked pictures all cut out from muy decorating folder days. Erm, better stop there.
      Slicky | 7 Feb '05, 14:37 | Reply

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      Artrocker is quite good and cheap.
      Quite hard to get hold of though but my local music shop has it
      *hugs local music shop*
      tom_from_sparks | 7 Feb '05, 14:37 | Reply

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      Artrocker is a more *real* mag in terms of indie music, but it tends to have bad journalism (lots of misprints, incorret band names).

      NME have an amusing letters page, and I tend to buy it for really comprehensive gig adverts, but I'd rather read DiS and Do Something Pretty.
      RockNRollMassacre | 7 Feb '05, 14:38 | Reply

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      yeah, i still buy the NME...am beginning to wonder why though, as each issue is basically a carbon copy of the last one, except with some of the reviews changed from 'the smiths having a party with television being gatecrashed by the others' to 'the others having a party with the smiths being gatecrashed by television'
      i used to buy it for the pretty pictures, but even they are being repeated now. boooring.
      pretty_vacant | 7 Feb '05, 14:38 | Reply

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        indeed indeed. i mean, i reeeally am not fussed that razorlight are STILL "conquering" America.
        freerangefrog | 7 Feb '05, 14:41 | Reply

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        Q deserves a bigger bashing than the NME. It's like one big advert for gadgets you can't afford i.e iPOD
        Patricide | 7 Feb '05, 14:42 | Reply

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          oh no, i only ever bought Q once.
          i think that sums it up....
          freerangefrog | 7 Feb '05, 14:43 | Reply

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          uh, i dunno if this has been said...

          but clash is the best music mag. and it has some fashion etc in it too. £2.50 tho! and quite hard to find
          elfrth2 | 7 Feb '05, 14:44 | Reply

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    Artrocker. Google it.
    Or Plan B! it's not a paper but it's the best mag around. www.planbmag.com
    John_Brainlove | 7 Feb '05, 14:45 | Reply

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      Plan B is the best magazine EVER, after Ponies Forever. It's got lots of words, enough for a novel, and it has trillions of illustrations and pictures and billions of record reviews. I'm not exaggerating..

      Loose Lips Sink Ships is also a good read, but is nearly a keepsake book rather than magazine.

      Artrocker is actually a paper, and is not bad overall.
      Rrrachel | 7 Feb '05, 14:59 | Reply

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        I love LLSS, i nearly wet myself every time I buy it. Mark Lannegan, the Icarus Line, Nick Cave and the Hunches - what a great bunch of coverstars. The writing is pretty good, but its those gorgeous pictures I like.

        Plan B makes me feel ill though, Everett True and Gracelette make it almost unreadable.
        Placid_Casual | 7 Feb '05, 15:54 | Reply

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          (?)
          John_Brainlove | 7 Feb '05, 18:36 | Reply

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          yes yes yes yes. llss is beautiful.

          i needed one of steve gullick's photos to include in a reference book for my art course [basically "whose work do you admire" kinda thing], and seeing as the photo i wanted was in the recent LLSS, i had to cut it out. i damn near wept. it was like defacing a rare and beautiful artifact. [and i was too poor to just buy another copy. sad.]

          xxx
          -gen- | 8 Feb '05, 02:38 | Reply

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    Clash magazine is okay, slightly let down by the almost comical typing errors that creep in in places, but the layout's good, and the word count's high, and the contents not too bad (the one issue I've bought contained, amongst others, Bright Eyes, Tom Vek, 65dos, Beck, Dogs, Mercury Rev, Adam Green)

    I think it might be an old magazine under a new name, but am not sure
    JustJay | 7 Feb '05, 14:55 | Reply

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      oh yeah, Q isnt even worth mentioning. a pile of crap. i do quite like the fly though. made even better by the fact that its free! *thumbs up* the only really irritating thing is that it never seems to give bad reviews.
      have never read clash magazine, but the comical typing errors sound good. an added bonus i'd say ;)
      pretty_vacant | 7 Feb '05, 15:02 | Reply

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        The Fly think Flamingo 50 are a good band. They're not. It's alright but too small really and lacking in any real content
        Patricide | 7 Feb '05, 15:04 | Reply

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          so far as i can tell, The Fly says every band/single/album is great. could be something to do with the fact that The Barfly are behind it, and of course their gonna say band 'x' is great cos ooh look they're playing next tuesday.
          monpot | 7 Feb '05, 15:56 | Reply

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            I don't think Barfly are behind it, it's just they've got the same parent company. You get The Fly in every venue, not just Barfly innit. As far as I can tell anyway.
            Action_Plan | 7 Feb '05, 16:30 | Reply

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            careless talk was by far the best mag around. Does anyone know if you can get like back copies or anything?
            I spose there's wire if you've got a thesaurus and beard handy.
            Matt_alaskaleft | 7 Feb '05, 16:31 | Reply

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              i think you can get back copies from smallfish records
              laurance | 7 Feb '05, 16:33 | Reply

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                Artrocker! Need to get a subscription if you don't live in London I think.
                smilingcrazylady | 7 Feb '05, 16:56 | Reply

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              Email Everett True at his Plan B email account, I'm pretty sure he'd know.
              Holles | 7 Feb '05, 19:47 | Reply

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          what you mean I think is that some journalists who write for The Fly think Flamingo 50 are good, but you don't agree. To me, The Fly is about supporting new music that's perceived to be decent with as wide a possible a focus rather than using its pages to slag off bands willy-nilly. Which is fair dos. If you follow the individual writers' pieces over a period of a few issues you'll be able to contextualise their subjective tastes. Music mags ain't bibles, they're a reflection of a wide range of individual interpretations of artistic endeavour. And the features in The Fly are pretty decent in my opinion. Which, at the end of the day, is a subjective one too innit.
          So there.
          joe_shoo | 7 Feb '05, 17:03 | Reply

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            I read NME as it's the only music magazine I can find here that doesn't cost over £2 and isn't Kerrang. It's an interesting enough read, they have some good journos like Mark Beamont, and Peter Robinson Versus is always funny.
            KayB | 7 Feb '05, 19:18 | Reply

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      yep it used to be called Vibe, pop pickers
      joe_shoo | 7 Feb '05, 22:18 | Reply

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        Clash magazine, I mean

        damnit I'll never get the hang of this new-fangled computer thing. you should see my screen, it's covered in tippex from making spelling mistakes.





        Actually I dunno if it's tippex, I caught my landlord looking a bit flushed and desperately closing down pop-up windows yesterday when I came home early.
        joe_shoo | 7 Feb '05, 22:19 | Reply

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    nme is a tabloid rag for the dedicated indie trend kid

    kerrang is busy recovering from turning into a kiddie mag during the nu-metal days

    at a push id go for kerrang myself, but thats cos its what iv read on and off since 96
    soapy | 7 Feb '05, 18:32 | Reply

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      the fly is good but theres never any left by the time i get to the recordstores/venues that keep it
      soapy | 7 Feb '05, 18:34 | Reply

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    What's wrong with DiS you bunch of ingrates! It's free and it has this wacky forum - what more could you want?
    Wiggles | 7 Feb '05, 18:34 | Reply

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      You can't read it on the bus.
      smilingcrazylady | 7 Feb '05, 18:38 | Reply

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      if i can manage it ...and i usually do... i only use websites for my music stuff
      its probably the best way
      soapy | 7 Feb '05, 18:43 | Reply

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        loose Lips Sink Ships is smaaart. Also, try the Wire. It gets a bit of stick for being elitist but in my opinion only a minority of reviews can be accused of having this viewpoint. Every issue contains a wealth of info on unusual music. It's ace.
        carrot_ram | 7 Feb '05, 18:48 | Reply

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      yis, i have to agree, DiS is the best place i've been as far as new music is concerned. and there are a load of fabulous people on these forums darling!
      pretty_vacant | 7 Feb '05, 18:49 | Reply

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        Art Rocker definately...whether they make spelling mistakes or not, it's not pretentious and has a great range of material at a good price about the band you really want to read about...but yeah subscribe cos an ass to find.

        The Fly's great for listings

        Plan B is too pretentious in my opinion

        I've never got hold of a copy of Loose Lips Sink Ships but I'm sure the photography is great, Steve Gullick rules.
        Holles | 7 Feb '05, 19:52 | Reply