is Pi on that list? Every scene in that film seems vital to me, its not overlong. I would say Inland Empire, wanting to watch it in respect for the director but knowing that its utterly toss
I saw it at the Screen on the Green in Islington. Everyone i was with hated it, along with most of the audience. At one point someone's mobile went off and no one gave a toss.
i just couldn't give a shit about what happened to any of them. they were all so un-likeable and annoying, and the story so badly thought-out and convoulted. agh.
also The Illusionist, which i downloaded, but i wish i had not wtched until the shit ending as it might have been remembered as decent if the whole 'reveal' at the end wasn't so fucking predictable and badly done.
wild wild west, I can't say whether I'd have walked out before the end or not. But I did go into the wrong cinema by mistake and came in halfway through the film. Didn't notice.
find it excrutiating to watch though. That monologue bit with the babies dying sums up the whole thing for me pretty much, i.e. self-indulgent, impossible to take seriously, emotionally tacky, manipulative... just awful
i didn't choose to go and see this. Do you think that's what the air hockey and fruit machines are for in cinemas? For people who are with friends who think the film is rubbish and walk out?
Twas watching it round my brothers on dvd and felt duty bound to sit through it til the end because he's raved about how great it was when in essence, it was the biggest pile of turd I'd ever seen.
but theres something about the end bit that totally weirded me out on quite a profound level. Not a particularly pleasant level but it induced a strong emotional reaction.
What it actually was, was a film that showed bodyparts being hacked off in inventive ways for 90 minutes. Well worth the door tax at the cinema.
Now, if you must be one of those tiresome people who want to read into a film like that as if it weren't closer to Commando than Pi, maybe you can consider the following:
1) That there is a narrator for the tale who turns out to be one of the soldiers at the battle, firing up the rest of the army for one of the subsequent battles after Thermopylaw (the battle of Platea (which actually happed). Bearing this in mind, you might suppose that this explains the highly stylised visuals and otherworldly and exaggerated phenomena that pops up during the film - why would a commander trying to fire up his truths tell a story not fantastical enough to inspire similar performances?
2) The parallels that some people are drawing to modern political situations and the whole thing with the Iranians (and some on their behalf) taking offense at their depiction doesn't really fit, when you know the details of the events the film is depicting. It's apparent to me the Persians as depicted in the film aren't much like the Iranians of today: Huge multinational, multi-ethnic population and military. Decadent and bloatedly wealthy society. Superior weapons and numbers. Driven by their regional ambitions to invade distant lands only to be faced by a devout and feirce convocation of homogenous tribes, battling insurmountable odds to defend their homeland against the occupiers, who force the invaders to invest vast amounts of manpower and money trying to supress the populations of the lands they thought it would be so easy to pacify. The army of the city state featured in 300 actually end up becoming martyrs in the course of standing up to the invaders - what does that remind you of?
You shouldn't go looking for deeper meanings in Frank Miller's stuff, fine. But as far as I was concerned even on a surface level the thing was poor. The washed out sepia effect was pretty for a while and then just got very tiresome. After the first battle, which was quite good, I never felt very involved in the bloodshed, never felt like the Spartans were being pushed to the limit in any way. It was utterly humourless, despite the fact they were all running around in leather y-fronts. EVERY! THING! ANYBODY! SAID! HAD! TO! BE! A! HUGE! STATEMENT! You know how it's going to end. They nicked the arrow thing from Hero. The rapine sub-plot was utterly, utterly pointless.
You cannot possibly use the fact that the thing is being narrated to cancel out the fact that it is, for all intents and purposes, a fascist propaganda film.
I was using the fact that it was being narrated to explain away the huge moon, giant wolves and lobster creatures.
As for it being fascist propaganda, well I've already explained why that probably doesn't work in my last post.
Concerning the arrow thing, I thought that too when I was watching it - but that said, that was the way the battle actually ended, so what are you gonna do?
I've blocked most of it out of my mind since then and can't remember anything that happened in it . . . the most horrible cliches, covered in revolting CGI landslide of rubbish.
also years ago in a movie festival I sat through a pretentious arts film about a businessman wanking in his hotel room over the TV screen, because the filmmakers went on stage before the film started and said those who cannot understand this film lack intelligence and artistic sensibilities and I was pissed off enough to take up the challenge of getting though it just so I can say it was bollocks, thus losing a valuable hour of my life I could've spend drinking in the festival bar.
ali g in da house
the fantastic four
hostel
how
is Pi on that list? Every scene in that film seems vital to me, its not overlong. I would say Inland Empire, wanting to watch it in respect for the director but knowing that its utterly toss
Pi is on the list because its shit!
I saw it at the Screen on the Green in Islington. Everyone i was with hated it, along with most of the audience. At one point someone's mobile went off and no one gave a toss.
Sorta this, with Inland Empire
Although generally I've found with Lynch films I don't enjoy them while watching them. But then when they finish they feel really, really amazing.
I got this most with Inland Empire.
I liked it
although some of it was bordering on ridiculously unnecessary.
I don't usually feel compelled to leave a movie if I don't like it. I usually just make fun of it or get gradually angrier.
most spielberg films
but especially Minority Report, AI and War of the Worlds - awful endings.
ive never watched more that five minutes into
AI. Its so dire.
Space Jam
I was about 10 but I still thought my protest would have been noticed. Alas. I never new you could.
The Avengers
Wild Wild West
The Wicker Man - glad I stayed though cos it was quite funny
STEP. AWAY. FROM. THE BIKE.
The dive into the water
brought tears of joy to my eyes
what's that?
what's that oh god not the bees! Not the bees! Not the aaaahhhaaaargh
I'd probably get it on DVD if it was cheap
would be good to stick on after going out on the booze.
the Da Vinci Code
Step Up
What possessed you
to go see Step Up in the first place??!
-12 points.
My female friends wanted to go
and I was attempting to be sociable. Sitting there through that film made me want to stab myself in the face.
Bicentenial Man
OH SWEET JESUS WHY WON'T YOU HURRY UP AND DIE ALREADY???!
My thoughts exactly
well done robin williams, you have proved that, as an actor, you really do only have ONE expression.
Kingpin
Was either that or Cable Guy at the time. Picked Kingpin and it was FUCKING SHIT.
Kingpin
is one of the greatest films ever!
Anchorman
my brother loves it so i felt it would be too rude to not watch the whole thing since i'd started it.
anchorman has its moments
certainly not bad enough to walk out of
you
are wrong. Anchorman is genius.
The Black Dahlia
i just couldn't give a shit about what happened to any of them. they were all so un-likeable and annoying, and the story so badly thought-out and convoulted. agh.
also The Illusionist, which i downloaded, but i wish i had not wtched until the shit ending as it might have been remembered as decent if the whole 'reveal' at the end wasn't so fucking predictable and badly done.
Batman and Robin and Jumanji
are the only films Ive been tempted to walk out of. Ive never done it though.
jumanji?
are you having a laugh?
no. it is appalling
...
None. I nearly walked out of Dancer in the Dark but that was because I was ill and the woman in front of me had really strong perfume on.
I don't see why you wanted to leave Talented Mr Ripley though. Granted it isn't as good as the book, but visually it is beautiful.
...
Out of films I've seen at the flicks: Legally Blonde. Which in hindsight, I guess wasn't so bad in an ironic indie way.
I'd mention Napoleon Dynamite, but we were watching it at my house and I ended up using one of my vetoes and getting it turned off after 45 minutes.
oh and the number 23
if i wasnt with friends i wouldve left after the frankly terrible first hour, and been spared the farcical ending.
Hmm
I liked number 23.
Napoleon Dynamite
is shit in the bad way
...
I've never wanted to punch a person square in the dick as much as I have watching that film.
wha..
...?
Now, with
wild wild west, I can't say whether I'd have walked out before the end or not. But I did go into the wrong cinema by mistake and came in halfway through the film. Didn't notice.
...
I don't get why Wild Wild West was so universally loathed. It's no worse than any other pile of crap summer popcorn movie.
curse of the golden flower
psycho remake
drop dead gorgeous
Happy Feet
Who would have thought that a film about penguins could be so creepy and sinister?
You have to be a
connoisseur of these things. It's all in the nuances.
counter counter back back lash?
My Life Without Me
I only watched til the end cause I wanted to see her die.
TAKE THAT BACK!!!!^^^
That's a damn good film, if ponderous and slow.
It's quite possibly
The singular most awful film I've ever seen.
Then you must watch some great movies
and have never seen the remake of Ladykillers.
I don't see how anyone could not
find it excrutiating to watch though. That monologue bit with the babies dying sums up the whole thing for me pretty much, i.e. self-indulgent, impossible to take seriously, emotionally tacky, manipulative... just awful
Dreamgirls
Please God, no more singing :(
Night At The Museum
Ben Stiller - a boring actor who plays the same person in every film he does.
black hawk down
i didn't choose to go and see this. Do you think that's what the air hockey and fruit machines are for in cinemas? For people who are with friends who think the film is rubbish and walk out?
Underworld
only reason I stayed in the cinema was for Kate Beckinsale in the leather. Awful film.
Terminator 3 - well, it was Arnie, but poor.
Big Fish
...
The only reason you STAYED was for Kate Beckinsale in leather? Does that mean there was some other reason you went?
Bully
Twas watching it round my brothers on dvd and felt duty bound to sit through it til the end because he's raved about how great it was when in essence, it was the biggest pile of turd I'd ever seen.
well,
I thought the fight scenes would be good. Alas, I was proved wrong. Vampires versus Werewolves, how the fuck did they cock that up?
by making underworld
shaolin soccer
my cousins friend brought it over so felt obliged to watch til the end. truly horrendous though.
It is very shit
...
Que? It's got footer AND kung fu in it. What's not to love?
Groundhog Day
but most of all End of The Affair. AHHH!
Groundhog Day????????????????????
are you insane?!
...
Yes. It's too late for her.
LOL
I was waiting for this, most people seem to love it, but I found it really dull.
BURN THE WITCH!!!!1111111!111
though
Groundhog Day may not be the best thing ever it is worth watching every 3 years or so.
..
I sat through the whole of Saw 3 despite wanting to walk out after the first disembowelling.
..
No, I don't like that "bowel" in there. Gutting! Ah, the mot juste.
Stuck on you.
I wanted to die.
Just as an aside,
I only felt dutybound to stay til the end because I don't like to waste money. Although it was already too late by the time I'd bought the ticket.
Clerks 2
Oh dear kevin, what the fuck happened to you?
AI
Seconded. Possibly the worst film ever made.
havent seen it in a while but actually...
i thought it pretty good
visually of course, but emotionally engaging too
AI is certainly a mess as a film
but theres something about the end bit that totally weirded me out on quite a profound level. Not a particularly pleasant level but it induced a strong emotional reaction.
Was it a strong desire
to rip Hayley Joel Osmond's little robot head off?
Was he a robot? I seem to have blocked the story out...
it's a reworking of pinnochio mostly
yeah he's a robot. but he FEELS
pish
.
still, it's 823623636 x better than I, Robot
yeah
the i see dead people kid was annoying but there was something very effective about the movie
even the end with the aliens... i can't really explain but it hit me somehow
and there were so many wonderful ideas, but unusually for spielberg a total mess
and actually
i see dead people kid was pretty mesmerising, thinking about it.
300
300.
havent seen it
but looked like a homoerotic orgy of historical revisionism and barely concealed racism / orientalism
...
What it actually was, was a film that showed bodyparts being hacked off in inventive ways for 90 minutes. Well worth the door tax at the cinema.
Now, if you must be one of those tiresome people who want to read into a film like that as if it weren't closer to Commando than Pi, maybe you can consider the following:
1) That there is a narrator for the tale who turns out to be one of the soldiers at the battle, firing up the rest of the army for one of the subsequent battles after Thermopylaw (the battle of Platea (which actually happed). Bearing this in mind, you might suppose that this explains the highly stylised visuals and otherworldly and exaggerated phenomena that pops up during the film - why would a commander trying to fire up his truths tell a story not fantastical enough to inspire similar performances?
2) The parallels that some people are drawing to modern political situations and the whole thing with the Iranians (and some on their behalf) taking offense at their depiction doesn't really fit, when you know the details of the events the film is depicting. It's apparent to me the Persians as depicted in the film aren't much like the Iranians of today: Huge multinational, multi-ethnic population and military. Decadent and bloatedly wealthy society. Superior weapons and numbers. Driven by their regional ambitions to invade distant lands only to be faced by a devout and feirce convocation of homogenous tribes, battling insurmountable odds to defend their homeland against the occupiers, who force the invaders to invest vast amounts of manpower and money trying to supress the populations of the lands they thought it would be so easy to pacify. The army of the city state featured in 300 actually end up becoming martyrs in the course of standing up to the invaders - what does that remind you of?
P.S. Anti-Orientalism, shurely?
okay, haven't seen it so can't comment
still looks shit though
eh.
You shouldn't go looking for deeper meanings in Frank Miller's stuff, fine. But as far as I was concerned even on a surface level the thing was poor. The washed out sepia effect was pretty for a while and then just got very tiresome. After the first battle, which was quite good, I never felt very involved in the bloodshed, never felt like the Spartans were being pushed to the limit in any way. It was utterly humourless, despite the fact they were all running around in leather y-fronts. EVERY! THING! ANYBODY! SAID! HAD! TO! BE! A! HUGE! STATEMENT! You know how it's going to end. They nicked the arrow thing from Hero. The rapine sub-plot was utterly, utterly pointless.
You cannot possibly use the fact that the thing is being narrated to cancel out the fact that it is, for all intents and purposes, a fascist propaganda film.
...
I was using the fact that it was being narrated to explain away the huge moon, giant wolves and lobster creatures.
As for it being fascist propaganda, well I've already explained why that probably doesn't work in my last post.
Concerning the arrow thing, I thought that too when I was watching it - but that said, that was the way the battle actually ended, so what are you gonna do?
^^^
THIS
the da vinci code
jay and silent bob strike back
Matrix Revolutions
I've blocked most of it out of my mind since then and can't remember anything that happened in it . . . the most horrible cliches, covered in revolting CGI landslide of rubbish.
also years ago in a movie festival I sat through a pretentious arts film about a businessman wanking in his hotel room over the TV screen, because the filmmakers went on stage before the film started and said those who cannot understand this film lack intelligence and artistic sensibilities and I was pissed off enough to take up the challenge of getting though it just so I can say it was bollocks, thus losing a valuable hour of my life I could've spend drinking in the festival bar.
...
I liked Revolutions. 'Pointless' CGI and kung fu = good.