I went to see Fightstar last night (featuring Charlie of Busted notoriety) at the APU SU bar in Cambridge. I must say they were average but not without their charms and they obvioulsy enjoyed what they were doing.
However there were some complete idiots behind me who were haranging him all the way through about his Busted connections, obvioulsy thinking they were being incredibly witty, but actually it was nasty. I think that he has shown the ultimate dedication to his musical credibility by giving up millions of pounds and massive fame to play the kind of music he actually cares about. I don't really like that kind of emo stuff but he does and he can't ever be accused of selling out given the choice he has made.
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If they manage to establish themselves (which may take time on the basis of the songs I've heard, which are little more than emo-cum-Kerrang!-style-post-hardcore by numbers), then I'm sure the hecklers will slip into the shadows.
From what I know, and what I've seen, Charlie's a good guy, and does deserve some credit for sticking his neck out.
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i mean, is that really good use of time? shit, go see a band you like! what utter twats.
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Can people stop typing in text, it's really irritating and hard on the eyes.
He deserves to be given a chance, but I think he'll for a long time, if not always, have the manufactured stigmata of Busted follow him and your always going to get people who are going to bate him.
Did anyone really seriously want to see Daphne and Celeste that time when they got bottled off?
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priceless...
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Taking things too seriously is a major problem in all things Fightstar related. I'm immensely bored of people telling me they 'deserve' to be taken seriously. Why the fuck to they deserve to be taken seriously? Fightstar are an inherently ridculous proposition. Giving up Busted for Fightstar was not some kind of Gandhi-esque act of personal sacrifice for Charlie. He's made an absolute mint playing cheap and cheerful teen pop songs, amassing a personal fortune he'd struggle to spunk away in a million years. Fightstar isn't an artistic sacrifice it's an ego-wank fiction where Charlie gets to play the 'proper' rock star. Essentially Charlie is your mate who writes crappy love songs on acoustic guitar and insists on playing them to everbody around the campfire at festivals. Charlie is rich and famous but no less daft or pointless.
The most frustrating thing is that people keep swallowing this toss. If everyone could just laugh along we'd be fine. But I've read numerous posts along the lines of 'I don't like the music but I think what he's doing is good' WHAT? Why? If you disliked Busted and you dislike Fightstar what makes Fightstar good in comparison? Selling less records or playing to less people doesn't make a band better. This I suppose is the heart of the matter. If Fightstar were actually any good we could perhaps move beyond the Busted issue, but they just aren't, they really, really aren't. Fightstar inhabit a musical dead end already packed with the rotting remains of a million crappy emo bands who have been before. At best they're support act at your toilet venue quality and even then people would think they were dull. The only reason fightstar exist and the only resoned they headlined at the APU is because Charlie was in Busted. Simple as. Therefore, I don't think it's that unreasonable to take the piss out of them for it.
Possibly I've spent too long thinking about all this.
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Anyways, let us put our differences aside for a while and spare a thought for the true victims of this story- James and Matt. God bless em.
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I think that he has shown the ultimate dedication to his musical credibility by giving up millions of pounds
Bullshit, he is alreay a millionaire, it wont make much difference to him, How much do you think his video cost??
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he was rich before he was in busted anyway, the nice toryboy that he is
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Could I just point out that integrity in music isn't the same as not making any money.
Oh and Busted properly shit on Jim Morrison when it comes to lyrics. Light My fucking Fire indeed.
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ballbags the lot of them
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Chill!
I was just being sarcastic! Didn't mean that I considered Morrison and the following to be great lyricsts, I meant that whenever you get lists of Lyricists - their names crop up.
Shall I go and cut off my offending hand to appease you all?
Sheesh!
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Nah, you're probably right. I bet it's not his fault anyway, just his glands, ya know?
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His tourbus was the height of luxury as well.
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... in a cage full of starving wolves.