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The Nottingham-Berlin Crossroads: DiS meets Josh T Pearson

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by Jordan Dowling

Today (Sunday May 13) is special for two reasons. Firstly, it marks the first time I've been rained on whilst inside a bus. Secondly, it marks the first time in around five years that Josh T Pearson, in the midst of a tour with 65daysofstatic, has agreed to do an interview.

Josh used to be in a band called Lift To Experience. To some they were a very important band. Their The Texas Jerusalem Crossroads is widely regarded one of the best albums of the last decade. These are the words of Josh himself, but ones I find myself agreeing with: it’s a sprawling, country/post-rock double-album as wrought with spiritual overtones as the gospel music that Josh grew up with in his native Texas. But that's in the past. Josh has left Lift To Experience, and Texas, behind.

Now, armed only with an acoustic guitar, some pedals, a boot for stomping and a bunch of country songs, he has returned to the stage. Not that he is suddenly looking for fame and fortune. He sees this interview as a necessary; something he needs to do to get him to the next stage, whatever that stage might be. In fact, the necessity of what he is doing here spreads far beyond this interview:

"I've been playing these songs for a year and a half now, singing for my supper. I've been living in Berlin illegally for the past three years, struggling to hold down a job. A guy spoke to me last night and said, "You get to tour around the world, it must be great". Yeah – I get one meal a day, and sleep on cramped buses. I've got a root canal I can't afford to sort, so I can't eat on the right side of my mouth."

Despite this, Josh still hasn't recorded any of the material he has been playing live. He has his reasons:

"At the minute I don't think I have anything to offer... I have nothing to add to the catalogue of rock. I think I'm close to doing something good, genuine, and earnest, but I don't want to release something unless I'm completely happy with it. I honestly believe with Lift To Experience I created one of the best albums of the last ten years, and I don't want to create something that is a lesser to that."

Religious imagery aside, the songs he plays now bear only a small relation to his previous work, both structurally and sonically:

"The songs I write now are all in standard tuning, 4/4, verse-chorus-verse. I'm trying to come up with something in these confines that I didn't have with Lift To Experience. My music with Lift To Experience was more existential, more metaphorical. This is more... rooted in flat earth. I'm trying to depict a battle in my music, between good and evil. I want to control the battle."

Josh continues, speaking of playing alone rather than in the confines of a band.

"It's lonely. It's hard, sometimes. I don't have any strength of records to go on... No one wants to hear one man and a guitar no more. I think whatever fans I had with Lift (To Experience), I've dug into the ground"

This weary view obviously has had an effect on his latest musical offerings. Where does he draw his influences from nowadays?

"I've stopped listening to music... recorded music, that is. Obviously I still see live shows, but I don't get anything from them anymore. I'm more influenced by my surroundings. Going to church three times a week growing up, a gospel influence is definitely there."

I press Josh, somewhat awkwardly, if getting away from his early surroundings has been a change for the better. Is he at a place he wants to be right now?

"No... hell no. I'll never be at a place I want to be. If I'm free it's because I'm running. I don't think that is the worst thing. It would be nice to get somewhere a little close to gratification, or contentment, but I think if you are completely content then a red light should go off above your head. So, although I've had some good times I don't feel anywhere close to a good place.

It is this complete honesty, the shedding of the veil that musicians often keep between themselves and their music, that makes Josh’s work, both in Lift To Experience and as a solo artist, so harrowing. Whether plucking his acoustic guitar at a single-figure decibel or slamming against it feverishly in a whirl of feedback and broken chords, and even when stopping to tell a joke mid-song as he has become accustomed to doing, his dedication is unbridled and his honesty sometimes heart-breaking.

"I want to save Africa," he intones, barely audible, as we share stories and slices of pizza after the interview closes. What would normally seem a hollow headline-grabbing (and typical) statement for a musician is put completely in a different light: he is a man striving for a higher cause. Maybe not perfection, but something he can look back on and be completely satisfied with. Or maybe not, who knows. After all, honesty rarely reads well in black or white.

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Josh T Pearson’s MySpace page is here; at present only a single song can be heard there. His upcoming live dates look like this:

May
23 Bristol Old Nick’s

September
15 End Of The Road Festival

Photograph by Steve Gullick, taken from Josh’s MySpace page



I almost feel bad saying it

after an interview like that, but I thought he was only okay in Leeds, with 65. At times he sounded like the end of the world, which is great for one man and an acoustic guitar, but the songs were almost indistinguishable, and they went on forever. I had more fun listening to him talk than listening to him sing.


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he wasn't amazing at leeds with 65dos, but he was interesting enough to make me curious. whatever he lacked in the music that night though, he more than made up for with jokes. he was fucking funny.

when i saw 65dos again on sunday in london, Josh's sound was much better, and so was he. i think he, as he basically said in the interview, needs to refine his songs and to live with them for a bit longer and to road-test them.

promising though. very promising.


I spoke to him at atp..

about mobile phones. As you do..

He told me about how he writes down all his messages then deletes them.

I think he should have gone on the water slides. He might have cheered up abit.


he did!

he was in the wave pool screaming at them to 'DO IT AGAIN!!!'


He was very impressive at ATP

and also at 65dos' show on Sunday. I agree with one of the comments above where sometimes his singing and playing is a little indistinguishable. Personally I think this together with the foot stomping and choral shouting make his sets original and totally engaging.

I think he's the shit.


enjoyed him a lot in Manchester

He has a powerful stage presence, everyone I was with was mesmerised. Also, you have to admire a fella this dedicated - it's nice to know people like that exist.


What a guy

What a beard


according to the man himself

his beard has a myspace.....

cant wait to see him at end of the road

im well up for entering the beard and moustache championships!


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As afore mentioned somewhere, I saw him with 65DOS, and when the latter's laptop went do-lalley at the start of their set four times he got up and told jokes about sex and paedophiles. He was really funny.

And he makes a nice racket too..


He was great when I saw his supporting Devastations

but everyone talked over him when I saw him support 65dos :(


Myself and

Fort Washington saw him in a tiny backward pub in Newcastle, he was special!!!


ATP highlight

JP was truly one of the outstanding performances at ATP in April. He was the closest I've been to seeing a ghost on stage.


this man

is a hero, and lovely too. cant WAIT for the solo album.


Good work Jordan

I met and reviewed him years ago in the Cardiff Barfly with LtE. We'd hung out before the show and i said I'd tap him for the improv set list later. He seemed bemused by fans and attention after-show that when i smiled and offered him my notebook for the songs, he'd obviously forgotten because he simply signed an autograph. Sweet.


hehe

cheers jane-o, any link to the review?
he has great taste in pizza, introduced me to my new favourite type. plus he writes good songs too i guess


no link sorry

It was for an inky and must have been pre-DiS (-like, 4 1/2 years ago? Wow.)


Jordan!!

It was in 2001. Can't believe time moves so fast....


Good interview

Josh Pearson is one of those artists that youd rather know what hes been doing lifestyle-wise as much as you want to know if theres a next album.


yeh

he is a very interesting person. i woulda rather just had a pizza with him than do an interview, it was much happier. don't know what sorta piece it would have made tho!