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As i was but a nipper during the 90s, the only indie i heard was stuff like Dodgy, Babybird, Mansun, Gene, the Manics post-Richey, the Supernaturals, Space, Oasis, Suede etc

Did the 90s really suck soooo much? Please tell me they were merely the Keanes and Embraces of their day!

And recommend some good mid-90s indie bands too, if there were any.

i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 06 Mar '05, 13:20 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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pulp - mmmmmmm, lovely

bones_howe | 6 Mar '05, 13:34 | Reply
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  Yep, Pulp, good one. Radiohead (obvious but still good). Hell, I even thought the first two Verve albums were really good.
  
  JohnM | 6 Mar '05, 13:40 | Reply
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  Ha - that's funny, I was suffering a complete mental block apart from Pulp! Umm, some other bands that I saw around the mid to late 90's:
  
  The Stone Roses
  Primal Scream
  PWEI
  The Bluetones
  Dodgy
  Menswear
  Blur
  Ocean Colour Scene
  Spiritualised
  Sleeper
  Elastica
  The Verve
  
  That really hurt my brain, I think I'm suffering from memory loss.
  
  smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 13:41 | Reply
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    Menswear! I actually have their first (and only?) album. And how could I forget Spiritualised? Weren't Ocean Colour Scene terrible (says he with a Menswear album in his collection)?
    
    JohnM | 6 Mar '05, 13:44 | Reply
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      I've only heard one menswear song, "daydreamer" which was okay. Breathe deeper *da da dada da* daydreamer...
      
      KayB | 6 Mar '05, 13:49 | Reply
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    i got a pwei album for 3 quid from select a disc the other week and it's really good!
    
    darkpigeon | 7 Mar '05, 14:29 | Reply
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  Bamos is gonna kick your ass for slagging off Mansun. I owned records by a lot of the bands you mentioned, although most of them are in a box in the loft now. It was the mood of the time - maybe it hasn't aged well, but I loved all that stuff back then, Supergrass, Bluetones, Menswear, Elastica, Boo Radleys, Suede, Blur etc. Britpop was cool for a while. I think a few of those records still stand up - I should Coco, Giant Steps, Elastica, His n Hers etc. Funny how Pulp, the one band who have actually split from the 'big' britpop bands have in time become thought of as the best of the bunch.
  
  John_Brainlove | 6 Mar '05, 13:43 | Reply
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    i HATED mansun, especially that song they did about cocaine.
    
    maybe i just didn't get on with the 90s...
    i'll get soulseek on the case anyway.
    
    i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 6 Mar '05, 13:46 | Reply
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    Oh Supergrass - I LOVED them, still do actually big time, totally forgot about that bouncy bouncy fun!! Ocean Colour Scene were dull as fuck. I really liked Menswear but it's an album I've lost and have no real urge to find again! It is weird that Pulp have come to the forefront coz at the time they were just part of the mix, they weren't my favourite. I think the music has stood the test of time better. Plus Jarvis is eternally cool. In my book anyway.
    
    smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 13:48 | Reply
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    "It was the mood of the time - maybe it hasn't aged well, but I loved all that stuff back then, Supergrass, Bluetones, Menswear, Elastica, Boo Radleys, Suede, Blur etc."
    
    Couldn't agree more. Of course, ten years on people tend to pretend they didn't like any of it. Mind you I never could stand Menswear. Or sodding Mansun.
    
    Even Pulp got a backlash, though - look at how much of a slagging everything post-Different Class got. I reckon We Love Life's the best of a very good bunch, meself. They were also one of the few bands of that time who were actually entertaining to watch live, thanks, of course, to Jarvis.
    
    Marc_B | 6 Mar '05, 17:50 | Reply
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OK, just off the top of my head:

Pavement
Sebadoh
Afghan Whigs
Boo Radleys (pre Wake Up Boo)
Auteurs
Adorable

and probably loads more I can't think of at the moment.

JohnM | 6 Mar '05, 13:37 | Reply
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  pulp were good, and i like the pavement lp i downloaded,
  
  i'll look at some of what you suggested ^
  
  cheers!
  
  i just have horrid memories of ugly badly dressed blokes doing undanceable gurning beatles and bowie impressions on TOTP...aaargh!
  
  i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 6 Mar '05, 13:41 | Reply
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    I feel old now.
    
    smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 13:50 | Reply
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      i do that to people. sorry.
      
      i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 6 Mar '05, 13:51 | Reply
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        You can't count out Kula Shaker and Reef!
        Not everyone's cuppa tea, but personally I'd rather listen to those two than Mansun, Menswear and all those c*nts.
        
        Chameleon | 6 Mar '05, 13:55 | Reply
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        Someone said to me the other day "what was it like to be around when the stone roses were together". I instantly became a fossil and crumbled into a pile of dust. Talk about feeling old.
        
        *in my imagination.
        
        John_Brainlove | 6 Mar '05, 13:59 | Reply
        
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        I managed to almost completely ignore music through most of the 90s, which is probably worse.
        
        Wiggles | 6 Mar '05, 14:12 | Reply
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  Boo Radleys were good all the way through. I think i'd argue that C'mon Kids is their best record. So there.
  
  JacobJones | 7 Mar '05, 23:39 | Reply
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fugazi!
at the drive-in!

alcxxk | 6 Mar '05, 13:55 | Reply
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  Shellac!
  
  JohnM | 6 Mar '05, 13:56 | Reply
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    apparently a new shellac record on the way at some point, see the interview at www.markprindle.com
    
    Jamie
    
    Jamie_Summers | 6 Mar '05, 18:46 | Reply
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  I had a major crush on Gary Stringer! I think I saw Reef about 4 times, went off them the last time I saw them and he chucked his bottle of water off the stage and it smacked me on the head. They were also the first gig I ever went to on my own!
  
  smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 13:58 | Reply
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    Fugazi et al don't count!
    
    and Reef were so unbelievably shit...
    i remember being at this summer football camp when i was 9/10 and some footballers went along - some kid asked Ian Wright to sing Place Your Hands and he had no idea what they were talking about. It was moderately hilarious.
    
    i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 6 Mar '05, 14:17 | Reply
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      I haven't listened to them for ages, will go home and play some to see what it was that got me.
      
      smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 14:24 | Reply
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        hairy neanderthal men!
        
        alcxxk | 6 Mar '05, 14:28 | Reply
        
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        :o)
        
        maybe.....!
        
        smilingcrazylady | 6 Mar '05, 14:29 | Reply
        
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        i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band! Dont be dissing Reef! Or I'll start banging on about Bloc Party and The Smiths again, and I'll tell me Pedo ex-housemate where you live!
        
        Chameleon | 6 Mar '05, 14:30 | Reply
        
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        you keep in contact with your paedo ex-housemate then? ;)
        
        Reef. Were. Bollocks.
        
        If you're even thinking about comparing the Smiths to bloody Reef...
        
        i-deserve-to-be-in-your-band | 6 Mar '05, 14:33 | Reply
        
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        How can anyone slag off the nineties? For me that was the golden age of my musical experience! Anything that came on was pretty much without exception listenable to, and there were a few really really good bands!
        
        Early Oasis is still great, Pulp seam to get better and better the more i hear them (Jarvis for best lyricist of the nineties anyone?) and Urban Hymns is simply my favourite album of all time.
        
        The nineties were class...
        
        rapscalion-jones | 6 Mar '05, 14:33 | Reply
        
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        Reef? Dear god man, they were cunt!
        
        John_Brainlove | 6 Mar '05, 14:35 | Reply
        
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        Ok I'll keep schtum about The Smiths this time, but I'm warning you. One more bad word said against the Reefers and I'll start an unending thread about Morrisey and The Smiths and how UNBELIEVABLE SHI....
        
        *Ahem*
        
        And no I dont keep in touch with pedo boy, but I do know his email address.
        
        Chameleon | 6 Mar '05, 14:39 | Reply
        
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        Scatman John,
        RIP
        
        wrightylew | 6 Mar '05, 17:36 | Reply
        
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        him, the outhere brothers and 2unlimited.
        
        darkpigeon | 7 Mar '05, 14:30 | Reply
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i forgot sonic youth, mudhoney - were they strictly 'indie', dunno.

i also got a....nostalgia for gene, echobelly, the boo radleys... must dig out all my 'next big thing' compilations from vox...i feel a mix tape suggestion coming on.

bones_howe | 6 Mar '05, 17:52 | Reply
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  i think sonic youth of being more 80s...same with mudhoney. actually i think of all american indie rock from 1985-1993/4 as being completely separate from anything english at all. but i love both all the same.
  
  Jamie
  
  Jamie_Summers | 6 Mar '05, 18:48 | Reply
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Cant believe that no one's mentioned the super furry animals yet.

Oh and they werent the embraces of their day as embrace were in fact the embrace of their day (if you get what i mean)

thedaythatthatcherdies | 6 Mar '05, 17:55 | Reply
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Lush, Curve, the Catchers, Guv'ner were great.
The Delgados, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, B & S, Drugstore had very good first records in the mid-90s.

What will people think of the band of 2000-2005 in 10 years ?

lyle | 6 Mar '05, 17:59 | Reply
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just thought of another, the inspiral carpets. Really good early 90's indie

thedaythatthatcherdies | 6 Mar '05, 18:15 | Reply
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  There's loads of stuff that I bet people didn't listen to at the time, but do now, like My Bloody Valentine.
  
  chiaroscuro | 6 Mar '05, 19:08 | Reply
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    I liked Supergrass and the usual Pulp/suede/ Blur/Oasis/manics but what the hell were Mansun? They're not good at all, I hate Little Kix and his voice annoys me. All I remember of Menswear were the nice but poncey clothes. Shed Seven weren't so bad. It's funny they were slated for being wannabe Oasis and now The Killers are slated for sounding exactly like them. Does that mean Oasis and The Killers sound alike? I think not. I think Dodgy were the Keane of the nineties, i used to catch myself singing In A Room.
    
    Patricide | 7 Mar '05, 00:36 | Reply
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      every mansun fan agrees little kix was a barrel of seal-lite shite. just awful crap. however the first album had a certain charm to it, and there's also no other britpop record that really sounds like Six. i think they got unfair press a lot of the time, when actually they made a hell of a lot of interesting stuff (especially compared to your oasis's or charlatans). also a hell of a bsides band. actually just like suede most of their best songs were bsides.
      
      Jamie
      
      Jamie_Summers | 8 Mar '05, 09:54 | Reply
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    true, i was about 7 during MBV's heyday.
    
    listen to far more eighties than nineties though.
    
    polko | 7 Mar '05, 01:26 | Reply
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I used to record tapes and tapes of indie off my local radio's premier indie-disco show (Jive alive rip!). These are some of the good (and bad!) uns':

The Good:

Happy Mondays
Stone Roses
Carter USM
PWEI
Jesus Jones
Inspiral Carpets
Charlatans
Mock Turtles
Wonderstuff
Ride
The Farm
Boo Radleys
The The
Ned's Atomic Dustbin

The Bad

Fatima Mansions
Ludricous Lollipops
1000 yard stare
Pele
Natural Life
Top
Cud
Chapterhouse

The Ugly

Shed 7
Dodgy

thewarn | 7 Mar '05, 14:01 | Reply
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  I've just stumbled upon this thread and it's like opening a wonderful box of memories. I loved the 90's, I really did. I was looking through my 7" from 94-98 the other day, and there's some brilliant moments in there.
  
  Menswear (whoever dissed them...if I get hold of ya, I'm gonna bash ya heid)
  Elastica
  The Auteurs
  Mambo Taxi
  Teenage Fanclub
  Chapterhouse
  The Family Cat (oh yes)
  My Life Story
  60ft Dolls
  
  I've just realised my record collection is a laughing stock. Between this thread and the Confessions thread, I don't think I have any dignity left. Oh well. 'Would you staaay...on standby...because I need another alibiiiiii'
  
  bamos | 7 Mar '05, 14:25 | Reply
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    Hehehe
    
    These past two posts have dug up some great band names if nothing else.
    
    tom_from_sparks | 7 Mar '05, 14:30 | Reply
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    Totally agree with you Bamos, the 90s were brilliant!
    
    I never really paid attention to music until about '95, so during that whole Britpop thing I just assumed that guitar music was the norm. Then it died on its arse and I was left a disullisioned wreck of a 16-year old.
    
    colonol_k | 7 Mar '05, 14:35 | Reply
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mmmmmmbop

darkpigeon | 7 Mar '05, 14:31 | Reply
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More:

The Senseless Things
Slowdive
Therapy?
Soup Dragons
BMX Bandits
The Wedding Present (I'm diving into C-86 territory, forgive me!)

thewarn | 7 Mar '05, 14:35 | Reply
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  Underworld - dubnobassinmyheadman was a cool album.
  
  And what about Leftfied, Leftism...when did that come out?
  
  Fellalady | 7 Mar '05, 15:02 | Reply
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    1996 I think.
    
    colonol_k | 7 Mar '05, 15:39 | Reply
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The killers are shit compared to Oasis.

Suede were great.

For the record, Embrace were a ninties band, and so were an Embrace of their day. The Embrace.

dick_cheese | 7 Mar '05, 15:29 | Reply
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  As a Manc you're biased DC.
  
  Patricide | 7 Mar '05, 15:32 | Reply
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  Already made the embrace comment, further up
  
  thedaythatthatcherdies | 7 Mar '05, 18:20 | Reply
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"Did the 90s really suck soooo much?"

They were better than the 1890's, that's for sure.

Againstthegrain | 7 Mar '05, 22:48 | Reply

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