Excellent way to market your band in my view. The way they made out like it was some sort of movement. The way they imposed their logo onto a old footage of riots and wars and stuff. The way they didn't appear much in their early videos but kept the same theme.
Perfect. Absolutely one of the 'coolest' bands there is. The second album wasn't as good in terms of the way they sold it, with the whole 18th Century suits and artwork or whatever, but its still heading in the right direction.
Kasabian just seem to know where its at. They're blessed.
I can't work it out
Is this a funny joke?
I like Kasabian
I'd like them more if Tom and Serge weren't such buffoons.
I liked it when they stomped off stage
Cos someone threw a bottle at them.
'ave it! Empire! Rock'n'roll etc etc
Yeah.
If you say you're a rock n roll band, you should really be able to put up with having a half-full bottle of beer thrown at you.
I find them
to be some of the most likeable people in modern music.
They aren't as talented as other people I love, like Ryan Adams or something, but they've got taste. They know that this distasteful London 'art rock' and 'new rave' scene is dogshit, and they've said so from the start. They like Oasis a lot, but that's to be expected, since most people who make decent music do like Oasis.
They also take the piss out of people, which maybe immature and silly, but is also entertaining and gives people something to talk about. If they were one of these 'Yeah we like a bit of everything' bores, no-one would care about them. Their arrogance is all part of the package, and they can pull it off just as good as anyone else. Apart from Liam, of course.
Nah.
I'm not one for making sarcastic threads about disliked bands in order to gain credit from my fellow DiS peers.
Good for you
I can't stand Kasabian though. And are they actually named after the make of cymbal?
No.
They're named after Charles Manson's driver.
Pretty good name if you ask me.
It beats 'Does It Offend You Yeah?', anyway.
high five
Even though the portray themselves as a bunch of louts
i have to admit they are, musically, quite imaginative and i do rather like the 2nd album.
Just wish they'd stop brown-nosing Oasis. Its even more embarrasing than when the Manics did it during the Brit-pop era.
they even had a manifesto
I'm not joking either.
So did These Animal Men
It didn't really help them though.
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Never Trust a Crusty
they're absolute fucking rubbish
if you can't tell the difference between them and, say, the charlatans or stone roses or happy mondays or primal scream or other such groove based indie type things, then I suggest you aren't actually listening to them.
I'm not sure I follow.
Are you saying they're exactly identical to said bands, or are you saying they're similar?
The Charlatans and The Stone Roses are absolutely fantastic bands.
Remember, what turns me on musically isn't going to turn everyone on. You look for 'innovation' and the pushing of boundaries. I couldn't give one if it sounds like something that's been done before.
PS. Listen to The Stone Roses and Kasabian back to back (if you can force yourself to engage in such torture), and although there's a clear influence, there aren't any striking similarities.
i know
they're just in the same ballpark.
and don't just look for innovation. i was having an impassioned argument versus john le brain in defence of weezer just yesterday. and I'll stand up in defence of anything oasis did before 1997 as being fine music. and I like the stone roses but I don't love them
these shocking confessions aside Kasabian are still abject rubbish. utterly tedious boring drivel. never mind whether it's original or not it's just utter crap. it's as insubstantial as any po-faced pseudo art rock, as boring as any conceptual jazz performance, it's tuneless droning charisma free bollocks. it's not that it fails to meet any of my criteria it's just awful. it's nothing. i saw the video of them at glastonbury and it made me angry how shit they were. the notes the rhythms the sounds the vocals all melded into this wall of black noise. it was like music without any of the things that can be good about music in it. no good songwriting. no emotion.
I can't even express why it was bad without going into musicological reasons or talking about innovation, and like i said that isn't why they're bad. they just embody crapness. I can't explain it.
try never listening to them again and see if you miss them.
*i don't just look for innovation
Ok.
That's fair enough. I think as long as you class Kasbian as 'tuneless' and 'droning', whilst giving Junkplanet 10/10, we aren't ever going to agree on much.
well
between you and me and the front door there may be a notch of nepotism in my rating for Junkplanet.
and I'm not against tuneless droning when it's done well.
like i said I can't actually explain why kasabian are such cack. i just hated them from the moment I heard them. they're joyless.
and it bothers me that you seem to dismiss 'art rock' bands for being in some way contrived or fake but that kasabian's posturing slips under the radar.
and
to answer your question properly.
the point I was making is that a band like primal scream (circa xtrmntr) or whatever do really really well what kasabian do extremely badly. and that i find it astonishing that you couldn't why one is good and the other's just fucking awful.
I know they're not identical in sound but they seem to be aiming for the same qualities. if that makes sense.
Right.
Kasabian
are quite probably my most disliked band currently.
A truly truly awful band.
Just because
they don't like emo kids.
Nah.
because they are very shit.
I mean
I'm fairly sure that I've championed enough popular bands that are disliked on here, to ensure that you don't tkink I hate Kasabian because they are popular.
They are just crap. Utter utter crap.
I liked them
their early marketing strategies kinda worked for them and some of their early songs were pretty good...then we all realised the truth, that they were arrogant shits. New stuff is utter wank as well.
I secretly really like them.
I'd never admit it in everyday conversation or anything though.
Or tell my girlfriend. She's a Manics fan.
I think they piss me off rather than their music
They just seem quite annoying and rather silly people in interviews.
I must admit I quite liked "Empire" (the song, not the album 'cos I think the album was called that too) though.
i've never seen or read
an interview with them.
i think i despise them solely on the basis on footage of two tracks from glastonbury and every time i've ever heard them.
Quotes from Kasbian interviews
Or paraphrases at least:
"We bled Rock n' Roll. If you cut Keane open do you think they bleed rock n' roll? We do"
And:
"We write songs about things no-one else'd have the balls to say"
(Interviewer: Like what?)
"Like the song where we sing 'like a terrorist on a day of rest'."
(Okay and what are you saying with that lyric?)
"That there's terrorists out there and they want to kill us. No-one else has the balls to say that"
^^^^^^^ That sounds like Spinal Tap!
That's what I thought!
They were being dead serious too.
First albumm...
...brilliant. Absolute work of genius. Second album was a bit sketchy. But without doubt, one of the best live bands I've ever seen.
Well, looks like that thing called
'marketing' worked on you.
I actually agree, in most respects
I remember being very intrigued by the fuss around Club Foot, and then the video for it kinda just furthered it. What label are they on? Because they must've had a fair bit of money thrown at them from the start
And, I must admit, being dragged to watch Kasabian at Reading 2005 was set up to be one of the most underwhelming hours of my life. But they were actually pretty good. I was standing at the back, so wasn't surround by beer boys and tossers. But that night they really got the whole thing spot on; the lighting, performance, unprompted mass crowd interaction. And you could tell that they were having the time of their lives too
should this be on the sarcasm thread?
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2039088
if so, this is hilarious
i just try to steer as clear from their interviews and just THEM in person as possible
because they really, REALLY annoy me
and it's not because of anything other than the fact that i just don't like what they say and how they say it
their earlier stuff was pretty good
and at teh time was really quite intreguing and it's always been fairly catchy
i'm less keen on them now (not that i was actually particularly keen befor though), but quite like the song Empire.
but Empire as an album.. well i just plain don't rate it. simple really.
some people love Kasabian characters
i just don't.
and nor do most of the people assosiated with this site it seems, heh.
*
I like the song Empire the most from that album, i mean.
I quite like a fair amount of teh earlier songs though, L.S.F., Clubfoot, to name a couple.
...god i hope it's LSF and not like.. uh.. some other letters...
More Amazing Kasabian quotes
From an interview in the fly about the song Empire
"No other band apart from Radiohead would have the balls to put in a tempo change like we did"
"It's like Marc Bolan smoking crack with Dr Who"
They seem
like really cringeworthy people, typical 'lads' with delusions of grandeur. The whole thing about claiming to be representing the north when they're actually from Leicester was really quite hilarious.
But then again, if anyone's allowed to be pompous it's them, they absolutely own live. Must feel awesome to have as many people going apeshit for you as they get.
Actually
The Marc Bolan quote was very accurate, dead on the money. And it was meant in jest so you can't really criticize Tom for that one. But yeah, he does spout an awful lot of tosh. Maybe you could put it down to the fact that he has ADD. A really severe case of ADD by the looks of things.