1. "Bamboo Banger" starts like a song that doesn't care whether or not it needs to exist or not. After 50 seconds or so there's lots of inane whooping, tribal drumming and whispered sexy bits. At the 1 minute 40 minute she decides to repeat the phrase "M.I.A. coming back with powa-power" a bit, the drummer wakes up and all kinds of shitty hell breaks loose. There's no tune as such, or discernible words, more an indecently filthy groove that might have suited that rave bit in "The Matrix Reloaded" if a gothic gimp hadn't done the soundtrack.
NOTE TO ALL RECORD PRODUCERS: start an album with a song that gets louder and louDER AND LOUDER by the second...
2. "Bird flu" is topical and tropical. Maya seems to have neglected to include any melody, meaning its quite quite brilliant.
3. "Boyz" decided it was the best song of 2007 6 months prematurely, and DOES include something resembling a sequence of notes (but don't hold that against it).
4. Some of you folks will have heard "Jimmy " already. It samples something called the 1980's, sounds like "Ace of Base" thought they did in their heads when they did Bangra remixes and is the "Sunshowers" of the LP (eg. chart worthy and rather fun)
5. "Hussel" has got a guy rapping in it that makes me want to dig out old "Dizzee Rascal" records. It seems like a bit of a grower, is terribly angry, references buying phone credit and has this wicked "tikky tun cha - cha - cha - cha" mid-breakdown
6. "Mango Pickle Down River" will be hated by 95% of the population, and as such deserves to be released as a single. Its got some barely audible folk gruffly rapping in its midst, and makes me want to rub nature-based dirty things on my body...
7. "$20" is a lot of money to pay for a second hand Christina Aguilera record around my parts, but is a decent song title. It also manages to include great swathing chunks of "Where is my mind?" by Pixies in its refrains. Further proof that M.I.A. has gone all hard on us...
8. At first "Down river" is totally inconsequential, until you realise 1 minute in that all the folks in your general vicinity are phoning the police because you're dancing like a zebra on heat. I imagine live they will need at least 17 drummers to pull this song off.
9. "The turn" is quite quiet which is handy after sustaining 30 minutes of barraged abuse. It has words, and sounds in it. But it's not...
10. "XR2", which amazingly I thought was only the best song the girl's ever done when I first heard it. Now, I realise its the best song that a member of the human race has ever done.
11. People seem to like "Paper planes". People are right. It has "gun shots" instead of lyrics in parts, a groove that'd get Mr Motivator to chill out for a bit and acceptable use of children's vocal talents - a feat which NO ONE ELSE EVER has managed [and yes.... of course that includes fucking Justice]
12. All of which leaves Timbaland to tick off M.I.A. from his list of "the 34 artists in the entire world I haven't yet worked with in a 6 month period". He pops up 1 minute and 47 in fact fans, and "Come around" is probably all the better for his inclusion
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8-9+10+11+12 = 1,453,578 / 10
Lots of boring people will bleat on about "art school bollocks for Shoreditch wankers", "not really being foreign", "Justine "The Architect" Frischmann out of Elastica", "the olympic logo-type artwork" [count the amount of times THAT will be said people], her "terribly annoying and grating voice" and "being politically inept".
These people are, without being judgmental, a bunch of pricks who are missing the point, or rather a refreshing lack off it at times.
Its streaming on her myspace page now should you need further proof than just my word...
http://www.myspace.com/mia
hi
i'm a prick
but
this record is still shit.
YOU LOSE SUMMERS!
perhaps
but at least i didn't lose the mercury prize
(to someone from Chichester!)
GO ANTONY!!!!
1 reason why i shouldn't
1: the CD is at home on a bookcase.
Bamboo Banker...
single of year. blates
she's pretty hot
1 reason why you shouldn't
IT ISN'T OUT YET
Well
At least I got a rise out of (some of) y'all
I'm currently arguing about this on Popjustice, as apparently it lakes "tunes"
I think I'm about to ask whether or not they liked the last "Liars" record...
oh it has tunes
they just sound like My Humps
you say that
like its a bad thing?
^this
you got the song titles wrong dude!
What those popjustice people possibly meant
this album can be hard to listen to for too long because, apart from on Jimmy, it doesn't have many melodies, although it plainly has some great hooks. By 'tunes' people can mean either, so perhaps you were talking about the latter whilst the popjustice types were complaining about the lack of the former?
I veer between thinking it is my favourite album of the year and thinking it is giving me a headache.
1. she's shit
2. shes shit
3. she's shit
4. she's shit
5. she's shit
6. she's shit
7. she's shit
8. she's shit
9. she's shit
10. she's shit
11. she's shit
12. she's shit .
i love this man
Gay
<3
hey bebe
What are you trying to say?
I hate it
when your post goes in 3 places below where you thought it would...
i would have thought it was rather obvious.
i would have thought it was rather obvious
that I was joking, but hey!
Those are tweleve great reasons
I fucking love this album.
i would have thought it was rather obvious
that i knew that you were joking!
ah, but i would have thought it was rather obvious
that i knew that you knew that I was joking...
and so on.
God when does my working day finish?
I like this thread.
"I like this thread."
AKA "The sure fire way to make sure everyone stops posting in it"!
I don't enjoy a huge part of her music ie. her voice,
and find it grating and annoying, therefore I am a prick?
God, some people on this forum are missing the point of MUSIC IN GENERAL, never mind fucking M.I.A.
yeh
but you ARE a prick, right?
meh, sure, why not.
what is the point you speak of?
if it contains any reference to "subjectivity" then i disagree
nah, enjoyment.
i think the thread starter
is more talking about people disliking it and then justifying it with one of the (frankly lame) excuses he suggests. Except the one you used, which is understandable but wrong.
Basically, M.I.A. has enough good to outweigh the bad (most of the time anyway)
hmm.
Regardless of whether I like it or not, I think that vamos is acting like a bloody snob (admittedly quite subtley, but it's there). Apparently if you don't like/'get' her for whatever reason, you are 'wrong'. Fuck that.
I'd say all those excuses are justified, because whether you want to address it or not - subjectivity is entirely relevant in this case (although it wasn't really what I was getting at).
Also: I don't see how my view is "understandable but wrong".
"understandable but wrong" = shorthand for
"understandable but i disagree, and since my music taste is teh aceness and i'm always right (*winking smiley face*) i'm just gonna say you're wrong."
capiche?
and RE: vamos... i think he's just annoyed by these various get out clauses people have for saying they don't like M.I.A. when in fact they just don't like her (and not liking her voice is the only really valid one of those criticisms, bar her political leanings).
I find it quite annoying when people say things like "eww, Nathan Barley" or "just because Pitchfork says she's totally hip". I reckon vamos is just bringing that opinion out in a fairly non-serious way, and not hactually saying people who just plain dislike M.I.A. are bad.
capiche?
I CAPICHE.
I capiche a thousand times over.
Yeah, to be honest...
I was just being facetious after hanging out on the Popjustice forum all day, and was muchos excitedos after hearing it 3 times through.
Her voice does grate on even me sometimes, as does her artwork and interviews, but to not look past that is missing out on SUCH interesting music. Another tune here or there might have made it a more commercially viable record, but this is the equivalent of a Liars "Drums not dead" to the hip hop / world music genre - out there and daring.
M.I.A. is for life, when the Klaxxons are just for Christmas...
And I'm old enough to know not everyone agrees with me. Much like the other 12 points before it I was just joking. I don't actually believe people are pricks if they disagree with me - each to their own.
Hell, apparently some people on here actually like "Maximo Park"????
This album is awesome
All I have to add is:
1. Bamboo Banger features the word Angola, which is one of the best country names ever. It also rips off Jonathan Richman.
2. Bird Flu involves street kidz.
3. Boyz isn't political at all.
4. Jimmy also sounds like Boney M and is apparently about when a journalist invited her on a genocide tour.
5. Hussel is so contemporary it references the Educational Maintainance Allowance - "I'm illegal, I don't pay tax tax/EMA i'm claiming some of dat dat."
6.Mango Pickle Down River is a remix of a hip-hop record by some Aboriginal street kids and Maya sounds all cute and London and naive in it.
7. 20 Dollar also features a sample from Blue Monday
8. Down River is actually called World Town.
9. The Turn shows that our grime-electro-ghetto funk heroine can't actually sing but it awesome anyway.
10. XR2 involves acronyms i don't get.
11. Paper Planes is the best song ever for that time when the lights come on in a club and everyone looks half dead, the floor is filthy and sticky but you can't help but smile.
12. Timbaland collaborations are always awesome!
1. why is ripping off someone good
2. so?
3. and?
4. sounds like boney m
5. EMA is now 6 years old. its about as contemporary as ASBO, actually t's less contemporary.
6. and?
7. how original!
8. WOAH!
9. why?
10. ACE
11. nah
12. incorrect. he adds little to the bjork album
Stop being wrong!
he never mentioned anything about what he brought to 'Volta'
?
he said
'timbaland collaborations are always awesome'
Volta
was great anyway.
.
he does in fact add little. he contributed only two beats, to earth intruders and innocence..it's hardly a collaboration..
MIA = Made In Australlia
Means its upside down, fueled with fosters and had hopping giant rats!
In other words it's bloody good fun if not a bit sickening. 7.5/10 :)
mistakes in animation ?
everyones favourite kingston based shed dweller ?
So, after about five listens...
this is probably my favourite album of 2007 thus far. Sheer awesome.
I saw her live a couple of weeks ago and only wish I knew the new stuff then.
Question:
I 'quite liked' the first album. I liked the energy and lyrics but found the production overall a little flat and cheap sounding. I couldn't listen to it in one go because as a rap album i found it unmelodic and her relentless angsty vocals just got on my nerves over the course of a whole hour. However when the odd song comes up on shuffle I quite enjoy it.
overall I could tell it was 'good' but I didn't click with it.
My question is: is this new album likely to endear MIA to me more than the last one?
...given that the person who started the thread says the album lacks melody and that was the main thing I disliked about the first one.
Possibly not no
Its a lot more relentless and rhythm based, often lacking a hook or tune. But her delivery has improved upon last time I reckon.
So, predictably I'm sitting on the fence
I love how M.I.A.
creates a huge divide of opinion.
I loved 'Arular' personally. Got Kala a couple of weeks ago and thought... meh. Gave it time, and now I think it's probably as good as Arular. Theres so many different styles from all over the world in the album. The beats are great, but then the lyrics are even better if you pay attention.
i just find her really boring now
this kind of thing was pretty new and interesting when her last record came out, but it's been done to death now and the songs are so paper thin that they don't really have any use outside of DJ sets now and then.
But this isn't really that similar
to Arular.
it is to me.
it's got the same attitude and approach to it. i didn't listen to Arular at all after a short period anyway and i don't think that was exactly a masterpiece but the idea of mixing together various styles of music on that was good.
i just think there's this massive illusion of originality there. she's working to a formula that seems pretty set in stone.
The production is pretty different though.
That's a fairly big part of what the record actually is.
Prozactly
.
it is
but it doesn't change the fact that the record sound exactly how i expected it to. where's the surprises? it's got all the same flaws the first record had. i'd prefer more focus rather than another batch of songs like these.
i haven't heard the whole LP yet, mind.
One mans flaws
are another mans godsends
Brilliant
Best album of 2007.
just got it on vinyl
:-D :-D sick.
oh and
does anyone know if she's going to play any shows or tour kala? i saw that she's playing that clapham common thing but no others!
she's doing some shows with bjork in europe at the minute, imagine that!