Has anything ever got above 9.7 (Arcade Fire "Funeral")?
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Trail of Dead
Source Tags and Codes got a 10
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/14941-source-tags-and-codes
that's cool
in a music-as-competition-type-way.
That makes it 0.3 of a better album than funeral.
maybe it's because the album must be 3% longer than funeral
Pink Floyd
Animals also got a 10
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/20884-animals
lol
as did...
Neutral Milk Hotel and Sonic Youth re-releases... plus tons of others.
On actual release, Bonnie Prince Billy's I See A Darkness also got a 10. As did Walt Mink's El Producto. I think Kid A and OK Computer did too. The Soft Bulletin and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, too (I think). Hasn't been a 10.0 for a long time, though....
If I've actually named every 10.0 on Pitchfork, I'll feel a little sickened at my indieness...
Oooh! Also, Silver Jews' American Water got a 9.9
9.9?
I wonder what it did to lose that 0.1 of a point?
whats sad is that i remember this
from the review for the guided by voices 'bee thousand: directors cut' expanded release:
Sure, it stumbles occasionally, and falters as only four spare-time, blue-collar bandmates from Dayton, Ohio can-- that is, humanly and forgivably-- but the original Bee Thousand simply stands alongside the greatest of the modern era. The original warrants a 10.
wikipedia says:
Albums awarded a 10.0 rating
[edit] Initial release
The following albums received a 10.0 rating upon initial release:
* ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead – Source Tags & Codes
* 12 Rods – gay? (EP)
* Bonnie 'Prince' Billy – I See a Darkness
* The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
* Robert Pollard – Relaxation of the Asshole (In the review, this album theoretically received both a 10.0 and 0.0 rating)
* Radiohead – Kid A
* Radiohead – OK Computer
* Amon Tobin – Bricolage
* Walt Mink – El Producto
* Wilco – Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
[edit] Re-release
The following albums received a 10.0 rating upon re-release:
* Boards of Canada – Music has the Right to Children
* Glenn Branca – The Ascension
* James Brown – Live at the Apollo (Expanded Edition)
* The Clash – The Essential Clash
* The Clash – London Calling: 25th Anniversary Edition
* John Coltrane – The Olatunji Concert: The Last Live Recording
* Elvis Costello & The Attractions – This Year's Model
* Miles Davis – Kind of Blue
* Miles Davis – Sketches of Spain
* DJ Shadow – Endtroducing..... (Deluxe Edition)
* The Fall – This Nation's Saving Grace
* Iggy & The Stooges – Raw Power
* KISS – Alive!
* Neutral Milk Hotel – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
* Pavement – Slanted and Enchanted: Luxe & Reduxe
* Pavement – Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain: LA's Desert Origins
* Pink Floyd – Animals
* Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation: Deluxe Edition
* Bruce Springsteen – Born to Run: 30th Anniversary Edition
* Television – Marquee Moon
* The Velvet Underground – Loaded
* The Who – Odds and Sods
* Wire – Pink Flag
* Wire – Chairs Missing
* XTC – English Settlement
* Various Artists – No Thanks!: The 70s Punk Rebellion
Note: Occasionally, a Pitchfork reviewer awards a 10.0 rating to an album's reissue despite its initial release being awarded a lesser rating:
- Music has the Right to Children by Boards of Canada[17] (initially awarded 8.3[18])
- Endtroducing by DJ Shadow[19] (initially awarded 9.1[20])
- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel[21] (initially awarded 8.7[22])
giving 10 to most of this albums
is really stupid...
But that's just me !
didn't
silent shout by the knife get 10.0 at one point?
Pitchfork's review system really bugs me
I hate the pseudo-science of giving a really specific score to what's basically an arbitary judgment.
Totally.
What's worse is that it's actually equivalent to a 100 pt scale.
What. The. Fuck. kind of functional value is there in discriminating between two pieces of music on that granular a scale.
what the fuck!?
It's a review system! Will people just get over how some indie site uses DECIMAL POINTS instead of out of 5/10....
It makes for better detail, and REALLY DOESNT FUCKING MATTER.
yeah
exactly. I actually like their scale.
Makes for better detail?
How? I accept the "Really doens't fucking matter" bit but it doesn't make for better detail. It makes for an even more arbitary number than a score out of 10.
Because, on the rare occasion a 10.0
is awarded it is a big deal, because it almost never happens... Also, only a few albums a year get 9.0+... I think there's a major difference between an album getting, say, 9.2, and 9.7...
Whereas a site like DiS gives 9s out all the time, and quite a few tens. This makes the scores seem less important... if it used a decimal system I think that the high scores wouldn't be given quite so regularly
I agree that down the scale it doesn't really matter between a 5.7 and a 6.1 or whatever, but I don't think it really matters.
Ratings in general are pretty rubbish anyway... people who read the ratings and not the review itself are not good.
oh my god. I'm actually arguing about this.
I'm kinda disguisted at myself.
"this makes the scores seem less important"
They are unimportant They're one person's opinion and exist purely to
a) stick on posters
b) save time for lazy fuckers who can't be arsed to read a review.
A simple 1 - 10 or 1 - 5 system gives a rough idea of whether it's good without pretending it's a science, which is what you want really. Any more detail is pretending the review's opinion is somethng more than the subjective viewpoint it is.
I can't believe I'm arguing about this either.
Better detail?
Better detail?
Cripes.
..anyway. It does fucking matter, because it's a cynical, manipulative ploy on their readers, and it encourages the kind of petty oneupmanship that's utterly repellant about indie music. You can get the more idiotic sections of readership arguing about a single, pathetic 1/100th increment.
A case in point: the only other journalistic sector that regularly uses this kind of granularity is the younger end of the videogame market (things like Edge took to a broader stroke years ago; the latter was met with howls of derision when it suggested dropiing scores altogether).
Be apathetic about it if you like, but it's characteristic of the semi-autistic, immature side of music fandom, and I'd be pleased to see it gone.
I heard once the sites editor
has final say on the rating regardless of the review
that's no different to most editors though
I can't really see that...
seen as it does 25 album reviews a week.
Maybe the major ones or something...
re-releases don't count
methinks
Because then you're grappling with "classic album" status. And it would cloud the reviewer's judgement
OK Computer got 10.0 by Pitchfork on release? Has it really being going 10 years????
Really???? That's like before the Internet worked properly!
Only two albums I love that got 10.0
OK Computer and Source Tags and Codes
and was I dreaming, or did Make Up the Breakdown also get a 10.0 at some point?
It's been going since 1996, I think
Bizarrely
they've started writing some news items in the DiS style...
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/45661-arcade-firelcd-soundsystem-tour-kicks-off-tonight
they've been going
since 1996 I think. Odelay got reviewed when it came out.