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Stung: Six-figure fine for illegal downloader

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by Kev Kharas

Record companies in the US have fired another ominous warning shot across the bows of illegal downloaders by successfully prosecuting a 32-year-old American woman for $222,000.

The fine, equivalent to £109,000, was handed out to Minnesotan Jammie Thomas after she opted to battle the Recording Industry Association of America before a jury - the first time this has happened.

Accused of illegally sharing 1,702 songs, Thomas decided not to settle in court, claiming that methods used by the industry to detect her were suspect and inconclusive. Had she won, a significant precedent would have been set for future RIAA prosecutions.

She didn't win, though, and was hit with the six-figure fine - something of a 'let-off' when taking into consideration the initial $9,250 fee per song that would have seen her stung to the tune of $15,743,500.

"This is a girl that lives from paycheque to paycheque," said the defendant's lawyer, "and now all of a sudden she could get a quarter of her paycheque garnished for the rest of her life."

Richard Gabriel, lead attorney for the music labels involved, countered: "This does send a message, I hope, that downloading and distributing our recordings is not OK."

Ms Thomas shared the files using KaZaA.


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If she'd been into decent music, this never would've happened.

No-one's ever been prosecuted for illegally downloading Ruins...


She was stupid enough to go to court

when she knew she's done something illegal...


AHEM

"She didn't win, though, and was hit with the six-figure fine - something of a 'let-off' when taking into consideration the initial $9,250 fee per song that would have seen her stung her to the tune of $15,743,500. "


By giving her a fine

she could obviosuly never pay, she could have become bankrupt and never paid anything.
Now she'll be forced to pay a bit every month...


She's 32...

Say she lives until 72, that's another 40 years, or 480 months.

$15,743,500 / 480 = $32,799 per month.

How much do you earn? As the Americans would say, "You do the math".


so?

people can get multiple life sentences even if they won't live for hundreds of years. It could just be a 'you'll be paying it off for the rest of your life' thing


But the point that lyle was making was

that if she has to pay over $32k a month for the rest of her days, which is frankly impossible, she'll just plead bankrupsy and the debt will be pretty much written off.

Or are you just suggesting a more manageable amount for the rest her your life +200 years? Do you work for Ocean Finance?


this is genuinely disgusting

as i said in the music board thread, this attempt to "make an example" is the complete antithesis of justice

It certainly does send a message though - that certain parties within the industry are the worst sort of soulless, blood sucking capitalist fucknuts, the sort of people who will happily destroy someone's life to make an ineffectual point


Thank you

for resurrecting the word fucknut. Indeed, these complete arsecandles should rot in hell.


KaZaa?

LOL.


But but but...

"this is a girl that lives from pay cheque to pay cheque"....Not really a cogent argument when you acknowledge that not that many musicians even get a pay cheque, and certainly not one that fairly corresponds with their input into the music.

Big record companies are shit, but so is the idea that you can take something you love for free while the people that create it struggle by...


shit

this could quite easily have been me.. shit..they're on to me


She deserves it...

She admitted it on an TV interview... then she later contradicted herself to say she didnt... she should have denied it from the start.

KEEP DOWNLOADING!!

Be grateful for people like her, she is paying the bills to the music we all download... :) lol

1,702 tunes at say $1 each is $1,702 leaving $220,298 worth of 220,298 music tracks...

I SAY GET DOWNLOADING!! hehe :D


wonder if she

downloaded any Graham Coxon songs?

*snigger*


Yeah, Keep downloading...

Musicians don't need the money from record sales... Music is free to make, right??


gigs?

aren't gigs the main source of funding for most bands, and CD's the source of funding for the record labels?

not that I know what I'm talking about...


that never used to be..

the situation but it is now. Which is why tickets for 'stadium' events are so much higher these days.

I think?


in which case

if you're downloading illegally, you're not doing anything to harm the band, just the labels profits, which are probably going to be high enough anyway?
(that's assuming it's commercial)


Azureus

anyone use that ? Is it safe?





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