I say Tintin. I enjoyed both, but I find Tintin has more depth to it. Also, Captain Haddock is the best character ever (and possibly the name of my band, should I ever require any musical talent or self motivation).
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Asterix
so many jokes ( many of them might have been lost in translation )
According to our (French) French teacher
they created new jokes so I think yes a lot are lost but new ones are created. Hence, the druid is 'Getafix', the bard is 'Cacophanix' or something like that.
and unhygenix the fishmonger
:D
anyway, i say asterix
TINTIN
Without question.
tintin
i read some asterix at work the other day and it wasn't all that great, but the tintin i saw on telly was still ace.
Asterix
When I went to the rugby loads of people were dressed up like him, it made me smile.
Tintin is a racist
bf
Isn't it amazing when someone says the exact opposite of what's true
Tintin was a member of the ANL?
Or maybe I wasn't being entirely serious.
Your call
Asterix
tintin is SUCH a homo
and Asterix isn't?
with his live-in partner, who wears pigtails and goes around half-naked?
i dunno
tintin is just so...... dax hair wax
Obelix
OBV
It's a tough one
I'm going to say Asterix as I think it's genuinely funny still.
But Tintin is great too.
Tintin
is FAR better drawn and FAR better written. OK so it doesn't have as many gags as Asterix, but Herge was a true genius. Goscinny and Uderzo were great too, but not on the same level as Herge.
Anyone seen the recent documentary about Herge?
^^ this but without the question on the end
and, no.
Tintin FAR better drawn?
Think again
No it blatantly is
I have a complete set of Tintin books.
LOL
"I have a complete set of Tintin books" the equivalent of dropping "I have a PhD" into an intellectual conversation.
Still, I will bow to your superior knowledge here - in fairness I haven't read either for years, but my opinion was based on which style captured me more as a child, and in that there was no contest - I much preferred Uderzo's style, especially the panoramic scenes. But I guess that is a separate issue to which is 'better' illustration
I was actually making a non-sequitur not implying this backed up my argument.
It's far better drawn in terms of all kinds of points like the scale, colouring and little aspects of accuracy.
I already put Asterix above Tintin so you can calm yourself a little, but it wasn't because of the illustrations.
Anyway, Asterix is still brilliantly illustrated.
I like Tintin as well
and like I said, you're probably right - it's been a while since I've picked up either
I love Asterix.
However, the drawing style is much looser and more cartoon-based than Tintin. Apart from the characters' rather stylised faces, there is a great deal of very impressive realism in Tintin.
herge was so talented
i love the jo & zeppe and quick & flupke books too. <3
quick & flupke
are better than Tintin for me !
how many quick and flupke books are there?
it's hard to find them here :( where can i get them? i think i have one book somewhere. [i must have, don't know how i'd have seen them otherwise].
and come to think of it, i didn't have much luck in belgium either, even in the massive comic book store i found opposite my hotel.
When I was 12 or so.
my Dad used to go through French Asterix comics with me translating and explaining them.
Happy memories. I'd choose Asterix for that reason.
Asterix,
could never really get into Tintin as a child and the Asterix videos we borrowed form the library were amazing.
There's gonna be a trilogy
of Tintin films. One by Spielberg, one by Peter Jackson, the other one unidentified.
That's going to be weird
They said they're trying to make it look like real-life cartoons....whatever that means
GAY
leave tintin alone. tintin is magic. the tv series was a bit rubbish but the books are all treasures. [except tintin in the congo, which is frankly a bit embarrassing.] i love tintin a bit too much. *strokes tintin badge lovingly*
Even Herge
was embarrassed by 'Congo'...
*Hergé
Use your Alt Gr button, man!
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I can't find it!
Alt Gr + E
Grrrrr
I can't find it!
character palette
innit.
i can't believe congo was ever produced. i guess with belgium's history he just... no, i really have no explanation at all.
Lucky Luke
Asterix
Tintin is not without his charms, but overall Asterix is funnier, and surprisingly educational when you're young.
tintin
was better. This is reminding me I used to read those comic-books when I was a kid.... not proper comics, books...
Asterix AND Obelix
I loved the Twelve Tasks.
^
the cartoon video is one of the most tripped out things I ever saw.
Tintin
Memories of being 10, left home alone in the summer holidays watching it in the gap between morning television and Neighbours.
I hated Asterix. I don't know why, it never appealed to me.
Tintin,
Hands down.
Asterix sucked, I avoided it at all costs.
^ this
I have had this argument before
It astounds me that people think the two are even comparable apart from the fact that they are French comics that got translated and were popular in the UK during the '60s.
I don't mean to get on any high horses, but you just have to look at artwork to realise how utterly different these two series are. Asterix was pure comedy (with a little education thrown in) and ripping storylines, Tintin is full of multi-layered, oft political drama and acute observation along with unmatched draughtsmanship and a dizzying amount of research and attention to detail. There's no competition.
There's no competition.
Just saying which you like the most...
asterix
Too many people fawned over Tintin.
Well he was a famous boy reporter, you know.
he never reported on anything
as far as I can tell.
asterix makes me feel sick
it's not even funny and i thought it was stupid even when i was six.
tintin, on the other hand, is wonderful.
Quick, I need to change my choice
Oh wait, I voted for Asterix. As you were.
tintin
for sure. Used to love those books.
Tin Tin!!!
I never seemed able to get into Asterix
tintin
innit
Asterix
Tintin is too 'oh good gosh, jolly hockey sticks' for me to bother with. I never liked the cartoon series whereas I loved Asterix comics when I was young and the toons are good fun.
'good gosh, jolly hockey sticks'?
I didn't know they said that in France/Belgium/Syldavia
No but everything about tintin
makes me equate it with people who liked Enid Blyton stories in their youth. It's just so prim and po faced. It was well drawn and probably well written I just wasn't in amour of it.
Well you made a bad mistake, then!
Bad luck! :)
nope
I would never have had any tintin as a child and just saw the cartoon mostly. At school we had both comics and I tried reading both but wasn't into tintin at all because there's nothing there for me to be interested in. Asterix is an adventure.
it's your bad luck that you hate Asterix more!
I love Asterix!
I had best of both worlds! You have a warped view of Tintin based on a misconception. The tv cartoon was pale compared to the books.
Tintin was far more of an adventure - Did Asterix go to the moon? I think not!
Tintin got involved with guerillas and the overthrow of military dictatorships as well, you know!
haha
the last sentence repels me even more, politics in kids comics urgh.
Nothing wrong with
politics in kids comics if it tends to undermine aggressive dictatorships. Plenty of children's authors have relayed a righteous political message through their stories. In any case, both Asterix and Tintin aren't aimed solely at children.
And, as I hinted in the above post, Asterix and Obelix weren't too chuffed about the Roman invasion of Gaul, were they?
He's right you know
the TV cartoon was rubbish compared to the books, although I do remember quite liking it.
I looooved enid blyton :)
midnight feasts, sent to coventry, jolly good :)
also
I know someone who collects Tintin memorabilia, rare stuff too. She has loads of figures made out of interesting materials from the comics, the comics themselves and posters. The living room holds a lot of tintin! Her husband loves Frank Miller and Arthur Lee and is contributing to an encyclopedia of graphic novels which is pretty damn cool. I was reading his copy of From Hell which is a lot heavier than the film suggests.
Asterix
forget politics, religion etc this is the one issue where I couldn't like a person if they answered differently
A question
what nationality is Captain Haddock?
I always thought he was British, but apparently he's French (or so I heard).
french
but he translated very, very well.
asterix
tintin was a cunt.
also tintin is so racist
he is not allowed in childrens book sections
:D
so the Blyton comment wasn't far off. This website pretty much doesn't surprise me in liking stuff like Tintin (congo adventure and all) considering the nature of some of the threads on here.
Blah blah Rudyard Kipling blah
Tintin stories were just more exciting, more adventurous. The Congo story is pretty awful now, and the USSR one clearly wasn't an on the ground expose but that doesn't mean you discount ALL the stories.
The two detectives were funnier than Asterix who, incidentally, was a drunk.
Patricide
At least read them before you rubbish them.
bf
what the fuck are you on about?
.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/271249.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Congo
this is ridiculous !
It was first published in 1930, so it's hardly surprising it has somewhat pro-colonialism opinions. Maybe it should be now sold with an intro explaining what the situation was at that time...
bf
it is! It's amazing!
The only remarkable thing about it is the fact that it's a book by Herge that is anything less than 110% informed about other cultures. In fact, in the context of anything other than Herge's other books, it is totally unremarkable
belgium has a pretty awful history in the congo
and the congo book is a pretty horrid reflection of that. but his south american books, and all the ones set in places like syldavia are great. i love the land of black gold too. and the ones with the huge mushrooms are just surreal.
herge undoubtedly employed a lot of cliches [e.g. the blue lotus - chinamen walking around with long plaits etc, tintin visiting scotland in a kilt and bobble-hat - jokes are always made from thomson & thompson's misguided attempts at going native, but tintin's equally guilty], but he also conveyed a terrific sense of place, and i think for the most part the tone you get is one of interest and wonder at the countries tintin visits.
some of the cliches he used could certainly be taken as insulting now, but i think they were ignorant or careless rather than maliciously racist, and the books shouldn't be written off because of them.
besides, captain haddock = greatest cartoon character of all time.
*applause*
*tintin nerd*
I wonder if there's any good Tintin conventions we could attend.
I have the initials RG, so I could call myself Herge from now on (if I could only work out how to do accents...)
we could just organise a tintin flashmob
outside the tintin store in covent garden.
i wonder how many would turn up in costume.
bf
Tintin...Herge was an utter genius.
I love how he really tried to be accurate and informed about the countries/places/things he referenced in his books
bf
Aaah, I see, it's only recently been published in England, hence not knowing it from when I was a kid.
I still think that's fucking retarded. There's no such thing as a pc childrens book from 50+ years ago (babar is pretty bad for that sort of thing), and referring to the excerpt I just saw of Tintin curing a guy with quinine- what's fucking racist about that? I'm sure people in the Congo wouldn't have known about that (I'm not sure I do either). The drawings of black people are crude caricatures, but so are the drawings of white people.
Herges stuff is normally very well informed, and I don't think one, early book is enough to dismiss everything he did as 'racist'.
bf
this should be up there. I tried the ctrl gr e thing, and it made what I typed vanish, and I panicked and put it back in the wrong place. I'm fucking sorry
Hergé, by far.
Asterix comics are funnier in many respects, but the Tintin books are far better illustrated, and the stories are just way more engaging and complex and exciting.
Plus, they're funny too.
you can't compare the way they're illustrated !
This isn't the same kind of artist !
You could eventually compare Uderzo with Franquin or Hergé with Martin.
stylistically they're not similar, no.
but i can still express a preference for one over the other.
and i DO think Tintin books are better illustrated :D
it's a bit like comparing a metal band with a pop band...
You may like one better, but it's difficult to say one of them is better...
I entirely agree.
BUT this particular thread title forces us to pick one and we feel obliged to explain that choice.