YAAAARGHHH!!!!! 'I'm not paparazzi, it's not rape, it's sex, and we both have orgasms, we both come lots'. This man really really isn't well, but it's not possible to turn off.
That bit at the end where he tried to describe his 'affair' with Pete as 'intimate'. That made me laugh and cringe.. The guy is obviously in need of help. My mum even thought he was a bit of a spanner.
What an absolute fucking nutcase. That fat little weirdo really needs help. I was amazed at the complete craziness of this bloke. The dancing at the end, the rape/sex speech, the strange monologues in his camera...
There's only one thing that guy needs. A lethal injection. People like him really are a danger to society. And yeh, although after watching this I think Doherty and his crew are a bunch of wankers, the best thing Pete ever did, was beat the shit out of that guy. No wonder he got number 1 in the Cool List, he deserves a medal. Its just a shame he didn't finish the job.
hmmm. I think in retrospect, that was a really shitty thing channel four did- cos that programme was basically about someone who is clearly very ill- Cawlish, and it isn't going to do him any favours at all...........
quite an irresponsible, nay sick move on channel four's part.
Defiently.
But, and i hate to say it, but i can't help but feel sorry for ol' Pete. And before you kill me, i think hes a dickhead and the libertines/babyshambles's are overrated in the "best band of the century" bollocks, Pete really did seem in an impossible position.
Carlish clearly was obsessive with him, and it was very obvious he was not completly "well", but what we saw of Pete wasn't half of what the papers have made him out to be, or at least from the pictures/stories Carlish sold.
I really can't see this being a good thing for the "filmmaker" (if you can even call him that) , but when you set out to relaunch himself from a man whos life is already clearly going down, then try your best to become his best friend, telling your camera when Pete spoke to you or such small things, THEN try and sell the whole thing, then when that fails make some quick cash of old pictures of him doing drugs you deserve a beating.
I know that sounds harsh as he is clearly ill, but that's not an excuse to try and make Pete's life that much worse, as he did.
yeah,poor Pete,i salute him for punching that fat four-eyed brummie jew,what an arsehole.good to see Peter on the buz box though-and Carl-even if it was just a glimpse
It was really embarassing. Carlish thought he and Pete were the best of friends but clearly everybody thought he was an annoying hanger-on that wouldn't go away. "I was a rock and roll star" on the stage and letting everybody laugh at you. What the fuck was that "It wasn't rape, it was sex and we both had orgasms" stuff about?
Peters ex always pisses me off, she's always selling stories to the tabloids, and she's always going on about how all his friends abandoned him and acts like everyone around him was scum apart from her.
it was really sad and depressing. Those people saying Pete was right to punch carlish because he was annoying are missing the point. he's ill, thats why he acts that way. Idiots.
The most interesting thing in the documentary was that bit about Pete not being able to give up drugs because he thinks people wont care any more, which was really sad. I hate all that Libertines/Babyshambles stuff, but its not nice to see someone that fucked up.
Yeah, but how is Pete meant to have assumed that Carlish had some sort of mental illness? If someone acts like a twat on front of me, and becomes annoying in the way the Carlish is (whether his own fault or not), I don't automatically think 'Oh, he must have a mental illness, I'll leave him alone'. I think 'What an arse, fuck off'. I'm not violent, otherwise I'd punch him too.
And Pete punched him because he sold the photos to the Mirror, which is a pre-meditated plan to fuck someone over for cash. I don't believe illness inspired that decision.
I was talking about the people on this board...
and didn't they know he had a mental illness. That ridiculous guy trying to be a rock star who he had a row with knew, so I guess Doherty did as well.
I wish he would just OD and die, stop being a pussy.
i agree carlih was a bit weird. He seemed liked the sort of person who would actually stalk someone, and he kept making stupid analogies to sex.
The thing i got he impression is that maybe max did more to piss off pete and his group than was actually shown.
And the bit at the end were he was talking about himself being a celebrity and being in all these newspapers, i didn't even have a clue who he was/what he looked like till i the programme last night.
when i was watching it i felt sorry and angry at max at the same time. I mean it wasn't funny seeing people call him a fat cunt and him not calling himself something even worse like a '4 eyed jewish cunt' or something of the sort, it was sort of john micrick like.
I assume he knows hes got a mental condition, so why does he put himself in the firing line so much to be abused? he needs serious help and to go to self esteem lessons.
i knew he was ill but still he was really getting on peoples tits and i would lash out at him, i agree with easy_rob that he should not been aloud to be put in that situtation, his mum was a therapist should she not of stopped this. it was also sad to see how bad pete was, and the fact that one of the blokes said he could of changed the face of english poetry and i think that wolfman is not the kind of m8 i would want.
I've been of the opinion that the way docherty writes lyrics is to come up with a couple of lines that vaguely fit into his whole mythology as a first verse, and then sort of mumbley shouts a well known phrase like 'what became of the likely lads' or a dadpun like 'killamanforhisgiro'.......
that is to say he doesn't have to do any work, cos the thing he uses as a hook is something already embedded in the public conciousness......
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I don't know who is more of a train wreck....probably carlish
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There's only one thing that guy needs. A lethal injection. People like him really are a danger to society. And yeh, although after watching this I think Doherty and his crew are a bunch of wankers, the best thing Pete ever did, was beat the shit out of that guy. No wonder he got number 1 in the Cool List, he deserves a medal. Its just a shame he didn't finish the job.
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quite an irresponsible, nay sick move on channel four's part.
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But, and i hate to say it, but i can't help but feel sorry for ol' Pete. And before you kill me, i think hes a dickhead and the libertines/babyshambles's are overrated in the "best band of the century" bollocks, Pete really did seem in an impossible position.
Carlish clearly was obsessive with him, and it was very obvious he was not completly "well", but what we saw of Pete wasn't half of what the papers have made him out to be, or at least from the pictures/stories Carlish sold.
I really can't see this being a good thing for the "filmmaker" (if you can even call him that) , but when you set out to relaunch himself from a man whos life is already clearly going down, then try your best to become his best friend, telling your camera when Pete spoke to you or such small things, THEN try and sell the whole thing, then when that fails make some quick cash of old pictures of him doing drugs you deserve a beating.
I know that sounds harsh as he is clearly ill, but that's not an excuse to try and make Pete's life that much worse, as he did.
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Peters ex always pisses me off, she's always selling stories to the tabloids, and she's always going on about how all his friends abandoned him and acts like everyone around him was scum apart from her.
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The most interesting thing in the documentary was that bit about Pete not being able to give up drugs because he thinks people wont care any more, which was really sad. I hate all that Libertines/Babyshambles stuff, but its not nice to see someone that fucked up.
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And Pete punched him because he sold the photos to the Mirror, which is a pre-meditated plan to fuck someone over for cash. I don't believe illness inspired that decision.
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and didn't they know he had a mental illness. That ridiculous guy trying to be a rock star who he had a row with knew, so I guess Doherty did as well.
I wish he would just OD and die, stop being a pussy.
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The thing i got he impression is that maybe max did more to piss off pete and his group than was actually shown.
And the bit at the end were he was talking about himself being a celebrity and being in all these newspapers, i didn't even have a clue who he was/what he looked like till i the programme last night.
when i was watching it i felt sorry and angry at max at the same time. I mean it wasn't funny seeing people call him a fat cunt and him not calling himself something even worse like a '4 eyed jewish cunt' or something of the sort, it was sort of john micrick like.
I assume he knows hes got a mental condition, so why does he put himself in the firing line so much to be abused? he needs serious help and to go to self esteem lessons.
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Have your heard Up The Bracket??
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that is to say he doesn't have to do any work, cos the thing he uses as a hook is something already embedded in the public conciousness......
*goes and checks out lyrics to up the bracket*
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I suppose what it is, is that they are sorta poetryish......
Syd Barrett's lyrics are in a similar style, but I like his music/singing, so I guess I'd be more open to them......
PD is certainly no lyrical genius, though
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get it Bit torrent
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download it here
http://www.andrewkendall.com/pages/misc/babyshambles2.php
you'll need Bit Torrent:
http://www.bittorrent.com/