I've just spent three months in a psychiatric ward after a year long battle with severe depression. I was just wondering if anyone would like to share their experiences (if any) with mental illness?
I've just spent three months in a psychiatric ward after a year long battle with severe depression. I was just wondering if anyone would like to share their experiences (if any) with mental illness?
my only brushes with mental illness include
watching 'the devil and daniel johnston'
and the brian jonestown massacre album 'thank god for mental illness'.
though i think my uncle is probably not all there due to his heavy drug use as a young man.
My uncle
is schizophrenic. I know a few people with severe depression.
I went to the NHS because I was confronting some pretty hardcore childhood experiences and wanted someone qualified to listen to me and help me work through it. They said they didn't deal with that kind of thing.
Fortunately, taking the steps to do something about it seem to have helped enough, for the moment anyway.
I hope you're doing ok. Well done for doing something about the problem.
i'm in the process
of getting a medical opinion on whether I have a mild form of autism or not. its a difference not a disorder though. yeah.
really hope your problems improve.
I have friends with depression
I have traces of asperger as well. I'm not sure weather I do suffer from it fully or not. I also have dyspraxia and think the 2 things might be related.
Hope youre ok at the moment
according to wiki
""Dyspraxia entails the partial loss of the ability to coordinate and perform certain purposeful movements and gestures in the absence of motor or sensory impairments""
Poor motor skills are also an element of aspergers. If you had a lot of aspergers traits I wonder if the dyspraxia could be related... hmm... i don't know.
I have dyspraxia too,
though despite all the research that's obviously been put into it, it's still very unsupported in schools.
I had to move school because my teachers would rip up my schoolwork (due to handwriting) and even at the next school, they basically nurtured me as if I was an incapable. Lots of smelling salts and "do you need help reading, dear?". None of them really understood and they'd basically just copy their treatments for Dyslexia.
started a thread here about bipolarness
but not sure I have it at all, it was only something my mother suggested, as these things always are.
Grandad was schizophrenic and eldest sister (RIP) had depression. Dad's epilepsy gave him mental health issues, too.
i've always suspected i had mild Aspergers or ADHD
i'm always counting things, mostly for no reason. i write stupid lists and throw them away. i'm always checking things, daft things. i dream about numbers a lot, too. i wouldn't describe it as an illness, though, really, but i get myself in a right muddle sometimes. no-one would know if i didn't tell them, but i don't really mind it. i've got to know where everything i've got is, all the time, if i lose things i panic. i used to count my steps aswell, and for some reason use a ruler to write. strange things keep me awake, like knowing i've got a pile of magazines not in date order, or something equally meaningless.
Could be OCD
Which is often, but not always, associated with an Asperger's diagnosis. Doesn't sound like ADHD though.
I have a schizophrenic brother
pretty shit.
my mum had clinical depression for a year and it was horrific
awful awful awful. that's all i'm gonna say about it.
my cousin and my grandmother were both alcoholics.
mental illness runs in the family....
i suspect i may be mildly autistic or something. i also suspect i may become mentally ill at some point in my life.
my uncle is paranoid scizophrenic
and has been institutionalized for thirty years. i don't visit him very often because it makes me break down, the whole thing is just so desperately sad. mental illness also runs in my family and i'm fucking terrified that it'll happen to me.
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Autism/Apergers is a spectrum, you can't "partly have it" or "fully have it".
Most men show traits of aspergers. For example, it's nearly always men who collect thousands of pieces of railway memorabilia or who make massive models out of matchsticks. And the geeky kid in the corner at school who always says weird things and plays video games all day is usually a boy.
Stuff like that is no big deal..although obviously severe forms of autism are.
with regard to
partly having it or fully having it. I agree that a lot of people have aspergers traits but don't have aspergers. The DSM IV states that you have to have certain key traits and also that it must be having a detrimental effect on your life. From what I've read on Wrongplanet, (aspergers forum) certain people find that it has a severely detrimental effect whilst others don't, and it depends on the severity of your traits and also what you want out of your life.
I would also point out that having obsessions, (your comments about railway memorabilia and matchstick models) is not part of the triad of impairment, its just something people with aspergers tend to do. I mean, I think its great for people to have obsessive interests, if that was all there was to aspergers then no it wouldn't be a big deal, but its not.
Nowadays
there is plenty of research into people on the autistic spectrum who fall into the 'broader autistic phenotype', ie the sort of people you describe. All the people like Einstein you hear about 'having Aspergers' were more likely in this category. It is very common. I have these traits and so does my dad. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
As calumlynn says it's a spectrum so in theory it can go from nothing to very autistic (with various combinations of the triad of impairments meaning that no 2 autistic people have the same symptoms. Quite right about the obsessions too Tartrocker (and also rainman-esque 'gifts' which are very rare in autism). I work with autistic kids and there aren't that many that I would describe as having a significant obsession.
i just crazier with age :)
FUN TIMES!
I'm bare depressed, innit
Come close to being hospitalised a couple of times. Never have been. The end.
To be frank,
the response to this topic is fairly disgusting and pretty much typical of the 21st century teenage/mid-20s mindset.
The vast majority of the people posting here have nothing wrong with them but, as I have experienced while being in support throughout school and seeing the shit people try to pull, people want to have some kind of "mental illness" they can pin their bullshit on. It's a lot like scar stories; people want a fascinating mental illness.
I find it disgusting that such serious conditions are looked on so lightly and have been turned into jokes by the vast majority of people. Just look what happens when someone tries to talk about mental illness with a friend or family member - its been turned into a subject that no one takes seriously.
I do understand that some of you may well have some forms of mental illness but please don't populate this topic with your unverified "ADHD" or "bipolar" conditions. If you're so worried about it, go to the doctors and get diagnosed. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
err sorry but where is anyone claiming to be vaguely mentally ill here?
or treating anything in a lighthearted way?
or expressing a desire to have a mental illness?
I'm sorry, I think I overreacted
It's just something that bothers me and I retract that post. Good luck with your condition curbyourenthusiasm and I hope you get better soon.
i think you more than overreacted
you just had a rant about something which completely doesn't exist on this thread
and as a result could have potentially upset lots of people. he asked for peoples ' experiences of mental illness, and people responded. not all these people have had mental illness, but i don't see ANYONE claiming to have something they don't or expressing any sort of desire to have mental illness WHATSOEVER.
when i say that i suspect i might become mentally ill at some point because it runs very strongly in the family, d'you think i have the slightest desire to be mentally ill, having watched my mum sit in bed with no motivation to do anything, hating herself for a year and a half, or with my cousin in hospital, hallucinating from alcohol withdrawal?
seriously, i think we're all intelligent enough to know the realities of mental illness.
Yep, you're right
and I was very wrong. I'm sorry.
sorry
in the same way, i don't like people trivializing mental illness, but i think it can also be very easy to accuse people of trivialising mental illness when they're not. sometimes, what else can you do but joke about it a little....
what a cunt
fairplay
i actually agree. mental illness, especially stress & ADHD are abused generally, which not only drains finances but gives people the impression that they're not all that serious. i've met people who can't go out of the house, one in particular who couldn't walk or even get out of bed during bad periods, so i know what a serious issue it is.
to be honest, though, i think people were trying to be lighthearted. that's how message boards work, generally.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKKFIaiTUA
i did go to the doctors
I am trying to get diagnosed. If I'm told I'm wrong I'll just forget about it and find a way to cope.
My mum has suffered with depression
as have I, I also learnt not too long ago my uncle commited himself to a mental facility after becoming depressed. My mum had to go and get him.
I would like to go see a doctor to talk about some stuff that worries me about myself I just need to find the time.
THE PILLS
Watch the pills they put you on, check them out first, theres one at the moment theyre trying to ban made by Smith Kline Glaxo one side effect you stop breathing in your sleep and die.
And when you first take them they make you feel real shit
ALSO
Theres a real shit virus going around that makes you real depressed, i know i've had it, so if your feeling real shit question that it's not that
With the aspergers thing
It's not definate I have it (in fact its probably not even worth getting it looked at) however I do have difficulty making friends and find it even harder keeping them (although I'm getting a lot better at this), which is also a common thing with apsergers sufferes.
Plus there is the whole obsessive peronality (in my case being a musician, its mainly about music, hence joining this site in the first place)
But overall i do function alright. It's not horribly bad
me?
If so thanks for the heads up on the virus but sadly this is a long ongoing feeling (years not weeks)
Oh that posted inthe wrong place
sorry.
At least you admitted that you're wrong on this
The reason a lot of 20-25 year-olds on this board worry about their mental health is because it is justifiable. Our generation has grown up in short-term comfort but as we reach adulthood we're finding it a lot tougher than our parents did, because in the long term they've given us the threat of terrorism, unaffordable housing and unstoppable climate change. Thanks, parents. It is enough to give the majority of people mental illness, in my view.
pinballfortress
I hear you! Don't apologise!
:)
I was diagnosed
with depression, it has affected me quite badly, these past two years in particular. Don't know whether that was partly due to the environment I was in then. I would have strong bouts where I would just stay in bed doing nothing for weeks at time with tears on an almost daily basis. I was on medication for quite a while but stopped fairly recently because it just made me feel numb rather than happy (I'd rather experience some feeling, even if it is bad, than none at all) and I've developed a distaste of going to the doctors. I didn't see a counsellor or psychiatrist (much to the disdain of everyone around me) because I have trouble opening up...I think this was why I stopped going to the doctor as well because I felt they knew too much about me ( I haven't been to the doctor since for any ailment probably due to this reason).
I feel okay at the moment; I am doing things and am around people that I enjoy, so hopefully it shouldn't make a reappearance.
I guess I should also add
that I am feeling so much better now. I tried to commit suicide about 5 weeks ago but since then have realised that nothing justifies doing that and have decided to concentrate on the things in life that I do enjoy. Life is worth it. I told my consultant this week, you know what I'm sick of this hospital and I want out, I want to get on with my life again. So I've got a probationary week at home, and if that goes well then I'll be discharged.
Can I also just say that the mental health services in this country are woefully inadequate. I spent three months sitting on a bed, taking medication in the hope that I would magically get better. No counselling or occupation. And at 21 years old was the youngest patient on the ward by a good 15 years, I've never been more scared in my life.
So anyway, a couple of months ago I didn't believe it possible that I would get better but I'm here now taking those first tentative steps towards recovery and I hope to return to uni in september. To anyone in a similiar position - it does get better, you will feel things again, there's hope.
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all the best to the two of you, it can't be easy opening up to people like that, or dealing with problems of that nature. i guess it's a case of small steps.
x.
Mental illness
Ive had bouts of depression of various severity for 8 or 9 years, and at one point things were nearly fatal. Im ok now, and more in control of my life than before. At times i think i have tremendous personal insight and at others im quite a confused person
Anyway my points of advice are:
1) time is a healer, think positive about how strong you are whatever your problems
2) Im reading a bought a book on "cognitive behavioural therapy" which is all about converting negative thoughts into positive action. Its a genuine form of treatment in many types of psycological and emotional difficulties and works on correcting unhelpful thought patterns to make life less complicated.
good luck curbyourenthusiasm and Good luck to everyone in this thread.
i had cogno
but i was too lazy to attend any of my sessions so i said i was cured and quit. good old me.
cog. behavioral anything
is fucking useless. it'll help tolerate the thoughts, but it NEVER touches the source of the depression. if you don't address WHY you're depressed, you will continue to manifest "mental illness."
pills (which are the fucking "intervention" of cog./behav. & neuro/bio. psychology) do nothing but mask the symptoms; they treat the symptoms, not the person who is suffering. is this helpful, yes. is it the end all? no. not to mention in teens, antidepressants have been shown to create suicidality, which is slightly detrimental.....
.. is not "fucking useless"
thoughts and behaviours are related.
depression can be caused by excessive negativity or just come out of nowhere. Either way toxic thoughts can come about which isnt helpful to anyone. I think cognitive behavioural therapy DOES help to touch the source.
Each to their own tho.
on the subject of pills. when youve got nowhere else to turn pills help to lift you up a bit, but staying on them too long is not good
so, phenotypic, if pills dont work and thinking about thinking doesnt work, and you cant go back and change the past, what do you recommend??
"just come out of nowhere"
are you serious? it's that kind of "thinking" that makes cog.-b an actual psychological "perspective."
cog. b doesn't touch the source, by definition it treats the symptoms. it is good for symptom reduction and tolerance. that's about it. i'll even concede that it's a good start. but again, that's about it.
i fully recommend psychodynamic therapy. (= it actually addresses the person as an individual who is suffering, rather than a cookie cutter person whom the same technique and "interventions" shall be applied. & it's all about the transference....
I've had some of that!
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy that is. It's not easy, you have to completely rewire your entire brain just to stop you going down the same negative process/path again. But it seemed to work quite well for me, and has certainly given me some much-needed defences against depressive thoughts and tendancies (as they do still occur.)
I must say, it is surprising and also saddening to see so many young (making assumptions I know) people here that have experienced mental illness, whether at first hand or through a loved one.
It is however, nice to see that on the whole everyone here has shown nothing but support for each other. :)
in regards to people
"trivializing" mental illnesses (i read this whole thing then couldn't be bothered to find the right thing to reply to, sorrry) i think that it makes it easier for one (such as myself) to joke about it. i seriously am fucked up but i'm not going to go into all the details here to strangers, and why think about how horrid it is...easier just to joke. and when you joke, it's hard to be sad :)
so....
mental illness: environmental (the old mom/dad cliche), biological/neurological (i'm depressed because my brain is lazy with its serotonin release), or an interaction of the two? or perhaps for some other crazy reason, like you're possessed by satan or some shit.
personally, i favor heeeaaaavily on the mom/dad cliche. especially since the impact of parenting has been shown to basically modify the neurological function.
My cousin
has been caught up in the mental health system for years. He's treated like a criminal rather than a victim. He has never been diagnosed, just had pills shoved down his throat.
I hope you are feeling better.
I don't really want to share my experiences on a social board but I've been on fluxotine for well over a year.
I used to work for the Healthcare Commission
and yes, I'm afraid that the 'pills first, questions later' approach is symptomatic of the so called mental health 'care' system in the UK. Absolutely hopeless.
I think my dad's experiences in the mental health set-up scarred him for life.
ya
let's just say that the way i've been treated by hospitals/health "professionals" is worse than the way anyone has treated me in all my life, verbally, physically and emotionally.
I used to edit textbooks etc
for the Royal College of Psychiatrists, talked to a lot of doctors and patients and was in a lot of meetings. Fortunately, I have very limited personal experience of mental illness.
I came away from that job having been there for 2 years feeling disheartened that psychiatrists are glorified drug pushers and very little is actually done to find the root cause. Obviously the brain is a physiological organ and can be helped with chemicals, but a lot of people would be better off without them.
I feel the same anout publicly sharing but I was on fluxotine..
for a while and it made me a lot worse. Doctor's reaction to this was to up the dosage...thankfully I was having regular counselling (and had got out a bad relationship) so the road to recovery was a lot easier when i moved onto other antidepressants. So just be aware... although i know Its different with different people. But I really do think serious mental health (especially induced by either drink or drug abuse) isn't really dealt with properly on the NHS. I know two people, one person sadly no longer with us that have been seriously let down by doctors failing to see the seriousness of that person's condition, throwing anti depressants at them and sending them off home.
My birth mum is schizophrenic
has been in a mental health ward for nearly 4 years, and is showing no real signs of sufficient improvement to be let out any time soon...
She's always been on the verge of a nervous breakdown, but since my dad divorced her, and I went to live with him, she just lost it completely. I didn't exactly help matters with that, but it had to be done.
My brothers friend, Joe, was
diagnosed as Schizophrenic when he was about 17. It was caused by his own admission from smoking dope. I smoked dope for a long time (from the age of about 17 to 30)and never really thought it was capable of producing / contributing to such a condition, but then again, anything with such a side effect of paranoia is not to be taken lightly.
Anyway, Joe died back in 2002.He jumped from the roof of a hotel that he and his family were staying in on holiday.
But on the up-side
a good friend of mine was admitted with severe depression / paranoid psychosis 5 or 6 years ago, and now he is hapilly married with 2 kids!
I'm
a mental health nurse. So yeah lots of experience working with people with mental ill health. I work with older people, so mainly dementia, but also depression and psychosis.
As regards to pill, they do work on some people, but not everyone, and whilst they do just 'mask' the symptoms, they often allow very poorly people to lead some sort of life.
Interesting thread.
I work caring for the mentally ill
so I would just like to say thankyou to you guys for keeping me in a job, I just wish you wouldn't all keep getting sane and healthy again, you'll be putting me out of a job!
Whether you meant that in humour or not
that's a completely inappropriate and cuntish thing to say in a thread such as this.
Well done
I feel ashamed and belittled now, I am truely a cunt, how o great one can i improve myself ?
Far too much experiance. :(
My best friend is currently in a psychiatric ward at hospital after attempting suicide for the umpteenth time. She avois talking to me about it and I don't want to push her into dicussing anything with me if she doesn't fee comfprtable doing so, but it's horrible, it feels like I'm doing nothing to help.
Pretty much the majority of my family have had some kind of mental illness or another at some point. I have two schizophrenic uncles, an aunt and great aunt with manic depression (one of which has had electric shock therapy amongst other things for it). I slso have family members with clinical, post natal and post traumatic stress disorder. There have been no suicides commited by any of the family I know, but a fair few attempts. I reckon my family just has bad genes, what chance did I ever have?
An as for myself...
I've been seeing a psychiatrist monthly and a psychologist weekly or fortnightly for the past two years. Had been self harming and attempting suicide since I was about thirteen, which there's still a real stigma to and I debated a lot about before saying so on here. They think I'm a manic depressive because I do fluctuate between being extremely depressed and a social recluse to being quite a positive, friendly person, but I haven't been diagnosed officially for anything, other than clincal depression. I also had anger management therapy for a while because I'd just be such a walk over all the time and let everything build up to the point where I'd go crazy and black out doing things, such as being violent, breaking things, etc.
By the way, I should add that
I'm starting to get a bit better in the way I cope with things and that my psychologist is thinking about discharging me within the next year if all goes according to plan.
A friend with whom I shared a house
had to be committed. I spent my 21st birthday in a police station with him after they found him wandering the streets ranting about dead bodies.(Fictious ones, fortunately)
He was schizophrenic and also alcoholic, which was not a good combination.