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by woahmassimo

overrated at the time?

now seriously underrated compared to how blur and pulp are considered?

woahmassimo | 07 Jan '08, 20:17 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Suede were brilliant,

They did, in my opinion, a lot better choons than Pulp ever did. I think they're often over-looked but as a ten year old, I remeber absolutely adoring their songs more than their contemporaries.


'Suede' and 'Dog Man Star' were great........

then it all went wrong...VERY wrong.

Butler's exodus signalled the end.


I actually quite like

Head Music too. After that they didn't do much.


It certainly is........

Christ it's been too long!


True, true...

Still, they left behind class albums. In fact, this thread has rekindled an old memory of being ten and while my mum drove me to swimming lessons, I'd put on 'Dog Man Star' and sing along. Ahh, that's what music does to you :-)


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What does A-i-C mean?

I'm slightly simple, see!


Frankly Mr Shankly........

it means Alex-in-Ciderland!


Thanks for explaining...

I write bloody awful poetry and I'm a flatulent pain in the arse.


Don't know if over-rated at the time.

Definitely one of my favourite bands ever. Coming Up was the first album that got me into music and Dog Man Star may be my favourite album ever.

Their later stuff occasionally boredered on self-parody and was sometimes terrible but even late on there was still a smattering of very good songs.

Definitely massively under-appreciated now.


yeah it seems

all the kids these days love jarvis cocker still and oasis are still well everpopular.

I absolutley love suede though, as someone mentioned dog man star is utterly amazing. Baffles me how Pulp, blur are so rated compared to suede when id say neither pulp or blur have an album that comes close to 'suede' or 'dog man star'.

post bernard theres still some cracking songs perhaps if they'd called it a day when he left though they'd be alot 'cooler' now?


Probably

I think everyone tends to mythologise bands that split up early (obviously 'cos they don't have time to fuck up their legacy!)


Suede

proved a bit too dark / bisexual / ambitious to be masseef. For the same reason no-one goes on about Bowie's Diamond Dogs, not many people go on about Dog Man Star. But when Suede tried to shake off the dark stuff and be 'happy' with a New Morning - well we all know h9ow lame it seemed. Lost In TV weren't bad though!

Also, it's not cool to discuss any 90s band: the 80s are having their turn to be cool. Wait until the 2010s!


pulp and blur didn't split up early

so that isn't why people like them.


Good point.

I'm not sure what my argument was there.


they were great indeed

suede were always better than any of these britpop bands. i never considered them similar to Blur and Pulp.
It did seem to go wrong with Coming Up and all that followed but I recently listened to Head Music againa nd thought it had more than a few moments worth revisiting.

i think at the time most (including me) were simply tired to hear the same old guys going on and on and it was time to move on. Now I wish they'd still be around occasionally for the odd gig.
With Bernard Butler though!


the first album's superb

I've never understood why most hardcore fans prefer Dog Man Star. The terminal flatulence had already been diagnosed by that point, although the most pitiful symptoms wouldn't manifest themselves for a couple of years yet...


you're

smart. And right.


they are underappreciated now

in part due to Brett Anderson being a total cock


suede made 2 shitty albums

before the end. thats why.


2 stunning records

2 average ones

1 very very bad one

I think they sound quite dated these days, though it may be because every indie club ever insists on playing Beautiful Ones, probably one of the most irritating songs of the 90s


Suede=great

Coming Up was great, and it was the album that was perfect for the time. However, it was the start of them becoming just an ordinary band. I think the reason they are almost forgotten is that they never really had much appeal to the casual observer. They had a very large hardcore following who have all grown up but the don't seem to have attracted a posthumous fanbase of young indie kids. It was amazing to see how little attention The Tears got.


The Tears

I LIKED The Tears album! Don't know what is so wrong with it, apart from a few dodgy lyrics by Brett. Refugees, Autograph, Lovers, The Asylum, The Ghost of You & Apollo 13 were all brilliant i thought


They were essentially a one trick pony,

although for the first two (even three) albums it was a GREAT trick.

It was when they tried to change that they screwed up. It was inevitable though - you can't keep doing the 'we're beautiful outsiders, no-one understands us, but we love each other' stuff for ever without getting very repetitive.


Refugees

Which is exactly what Refugees was......but i still loved it for some reason!