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no i havent
aren't you the person who posted that picture of a crop circle you and your friends made?
Yes, but there is a difference between the one me
and my friends made, and this.
http://www.einterface.net/gamini/greycircle1.jpg
Its in a direct Hercules flightpath
in Alton Barnes. There are something like 800 circles I think. If each circle took 1 minute to do, that would be well over 5 hours to make, and that is without even figuring out the geometry. This circle apeared in July, I think when there was about 7 6 hours of darkness.
Can you explain how it was made?
6
I was wrong with the 800.
It is approx 400. Still well over 5 hours though.
yes
but how do you know that each circle takes a minute to do.
You dont, that is a guideline.
The minmum that it could possibly take. It is ridiculous because to flatten 20 square metres of wheat would take easily an hour even if there was a group of 4 people doing it.
People are quick to point dismiss these things, but when they are given the mathematics of the situation, they dont want to know.
I am not sayig that these are done by little green men. I am just aying that there is no explanation for them. Absolutely no explanation at all.
well
i think that there could be a number of possible explanations if you thought it through enough. theres probably some hidden code in them or something.
what if a group of 25 people did it?
pretty sure that would negate your arguement?
have you got a picture of the crop circles you did?
Yeah, its tiny and it took 4 of us 2 hours.
http://www.astrojourneys.com/images/avebury_silburyhill.jpg
thats brilliant though
:D
Its rubbish mate. Check this one out.
http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/Sciences/cropcircle-opposite-silbury-hill-wiltshire-3aug2004.jpg
cant be bothered with tinyurl, soz.
thats pretty impressive
yours is still good though
and if it
was directly underneath a hercules flighpath, surely something would have been picked up.
It was spotted by an RAF pilot from Lyneham.
As are 90% of all circles.
I would say that 90% are done by twats like me. But the one I have given a link to??, well, it must have been done by a crack troup of commandos - for an experiment of course! And they all had night vision goggles, wheelbarrows and Theodilites.
yep
and they are called the freemasons
What would be their motive?
screw with peoples
minds for fun?
i cant handle this. im being grilled by a civil engineer. its almost 1am and im a 17 year old college student. Im gonna go smoke some weed and listen to music.
Ha ha.
Sorry, deep topic.
that could be anyone though
i dont realy believe in crop circles. theres more likely to be some secret club that go around making them.
Read the information above Prof.
That's beautiful
deal with a team of art students/internet nerds and the farmer, and if 10 circles were being made at once the timing would be fine.
Rubbish Gabrielle.
I am a Civil Engineer, and have been for 12 years now. My whole career is based on reading drawings interpolating them, and marking out/constructing/ seeing through to completion what is on the 100's of drawings that I have to read.
If I cant explain it. Then I am sure you cant. Nor a bunch of art students.
dude
:(
Well, It doesnt matter if you agree with me.
But if you dont agree, then you have to give me some sort of feasible explanation.
Its only fair?
well i think
she might have given an explanation. actualy i dont fully understand her post, so proceed.
Jesus wept
Are you Reg Presley or something? You're not getting any pennies off me, pal.
:D
Who is Reg Presley?
Oh right, the guy who the Sun discovered.
?
High profile crop circle loony from The Troggs
who spent a lot of money researching nothing more than some fantastic art :)
You are wrong there.
There was a circle oppsite Stone Henge in about 94 I think. It had 180 circles and he pointed out that if each circle would take 1 minute (obviously impossible) but IF each circle would take a minute, whol pattern would take blah blah blah. At the end of the day, it doesnt matter how much proof you come up with, if someone desnt want to believe something that is not rationally explainable then they wont.
How dare you say i'm wrong
FANTASTIC ART. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. Weirdo.
you are mostly just underestimating students
and the fact that as people become adept at simple patterns they start to become unfathomably good at what they do (the first pyramids were smaller, people learn from smaller scale projects, you are still at the beginning method admitedly, and although you are are some what expert in reading plans, there are others that are brilliant at geometry, and stuff too, do you not imagine that people DO like to impress and baffle others with HOW AWSOME they can be?...i dont know about you but, using a simple analagy, when you learn to play a bit of guitar or piano, it somehow makes what some virtuos do even more awsome and almost superhuman)
sorry I didnt mean to say
'underestimating students' i mean 'underestimating humans'
I can
but I will need paper and pencil to show without using even more words than is usual to me
Mybe there were loads of people doing it
maybe the circles take less than a minute to make.
maybe the owner of the field let them do it so they didn't have to do it in the dark
maybe there were only a few people doing it and it did take them ages and there wasn't enough time to do it so they did some of it during the light
or any a million other mundane explanations you or I are unable to think of at the moment.
I used to live in Wiltshire....
crop circle capital of the world, we saw some incredibly intricate designs.
Back on topic, I can't say that I have, but, I have seen a copy of UFOrb, if that counts?
Good album.
I prefer Pomme fritz ep though. And Orb Live 93.
I'd quite like to sit listening to The Orb
right now in the centre of a crop circle with a few drinks.
Your not the only one mate.
:(
no
but i once went to a timothy good lecture in the back room of a bookshop in newcastle and he had slides of 'genuine' ufo with him.
they looked a lot more convincing on the projector than they do in his books.
I have got a Timothy Good Book,
but I have never read it.
Was he the guy who had something to do with Bob Lazarr?
yes
well, im a sceptic so i doubt it actually was.
but me and my friends were doing a media project in year 11 and filmed this shot of the sky for our opening credits or something shit like that.
when we started to edit it we looked closely at this two minutes worth of sky footage, and you could see this cylindrical shaped dark object shoot across the sky really fast.
was pretty weirdddddded
What do you think it was?
And dont say Satelite please!!
There may have to be a ban request!
im tempted
to be really boring and say that it might have been something as simple as something on the lens. but to our 16 year old eyes, we properly thought something had been up there. we watched it really really slowly on the editing suite and it looked like something properly in the air going really fast.
just thought i would share :)
a plane?
a bird?
A cylindrical bird.
Get Attenborough on the phone!!
right
so at a distance, you are able to view a bird and all its features in perfect clarity? and dont some birds tuck thier wings in, like swallows?
Let parisriots answer the question.
I m sure he has been through every rational explanation. Not forgetting he is a sceptic as well of course.
nah, it definitely wasnt
we slowed it down and looked reeally really closely, you can tell that a plane is a plane even from really far away, vapour trails etc.
cylindrical bird is an avenue we can pursue, if we must
wait.
i kept misreading cylindrical as disc.
ok i'll shut up.
yes
i'm sure of it. it was shaped like a really big pear, with a broomstick coming out of it. it flew over my aunty Hilda's house when i was about two.
Aunty Hilda.
Stock aunty name.
it was the early 80's
people had Aunty Hilda's then.
:D
what's been proven beyond reasonable doubt
is that human beings are irrational, credulous berks who cling to silly notions to make the universe seem more comforting and/or interesting than it is.
well many people have seen ufos
no doubt about that. The number of people who have seen alien spaceships though would be zero
How to.
The making of the crop circle that codswallop first linked to http://www.einterface.net/gamini/greycircle1.jpg
could be made as follows (I may be slightly out as Im just interpreting it visually and its not directly from above
1...equipment
things would be made much easier if one were to use walkie talkies (or mobile) cheap walkie talkies do not cost much.....but most people have mobiles now so that could be easier.
theodalite.
poles. flags. twine > 200 metres but marked 2ith 200 metres and half way, i.e. 100 metres
twine 57.735 metres long.
It would be useful if the twine had loops attached to it at the significant distances to put the poles through
Laser measure.
Perform the measuring and planting of poles in previous nights and do the tramping down of crops the final night.
Step 1: choose your site wisely, from a level point of view and ask Demeter or Ceres her permission.
Step 2: get two minions to stretch put the twine het them to pull it tautish (without breaking or stretching it too much) and initially put up their poles.
Step 3: go to centre 100m of twine on either side Use laser distance finders to position and confirm that the poles are indeed 100m from the centre. The Centre I will name 'C' The two end of twine 'C1' and 'C4'.
Step 4: Ensuring the loop of the twine at C is attached you your pole (at head height. Ask minion at C1 to move clockwise round you, keeping twine vaguely taut at head height. Using the theodelite (or other sighting device identify when they are at approx 60 degrees to C1. Ask them to erect another pole, using laser measurer and thodalite ensure the pole at 'C2' is 100 metres from C and at 60 degrees from C1. Repeat this around the circle (possibly repositioning C4 for accuracy) untill you have C1 - C6 all equidistant from each other and 100 metres from C.
Step 5: Using the 57.735 metre twine get a minion to go clockwise from C1 30 degrees at a distance of 57.735 metres from C they should plant another pole 'X1'.
Repeat this either by moving clockwise from X1 60 degrees to establish X2 , again 57.735 metres from C.
Repeat till you have done X6.
Check your accuracy by ensuring that C1 is 30 degrees clockwise from X6.
Step 6: Reposition your thelodalite at point X1. Line up C1 and measure 22 degrees to the left, get a minion (using 57.735 metre twine to plant a flag there 'C1I1') To the left of C1I1 measure 20 degrees plant another flag C1I2, 18 degrees to the left of this plant another flag C1I3, 16 degrees to the left of this C1I4, 14 degrees to the left of this C1I5, 12 degrees to the left of this C1I6
Step 7)Keeping the Theodalite where it is Line up C1 and measure 22 degrees to the right, get a minion (using 57.735 metre twine to plant a flag there 'C1O1') To the right of C1O1 measure 20 degrees plant another flag C1O2, 18 degrees to the right of this plant another flag C1O3, 16 degrees to the right of this C1O4, 14 degrees to the right of this C1O5, 12 degrees to the right of this C1O6
Step 8) Repeat Steps 6 and 7 with thelodalite at C2, C3, C4, C5 and C6.
Step 9) Attach flags to each pole labelling them with their names previously....They should also have the radius of the circle to be flattened around that pole (Ive yet to confirm by calculation these radii but they are approximately as follows )Poles C, C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6 should have a diameter flattened of 22m.
Poles CnI1 and CnO1 should have a diameter flattened of 20m (where n is 1 to 6)
Poles CnI2 and Cno2 should have a diameter flattened of 18m.
Poles CnI3 and CnO3 should have a diameter flattened of 16m
Poles CnI4 and CnO4 should have a diameter flattened of 14m
Poles CnI5 and CnO5 should have a diameter flattened of 12m
Poles CnI6 and CnO6 should have a diameter flattened of 10m
On subsequent days all these poles will be visited by drone minions who will be issued with looped twine to the length of half the poles allotted diameter and they will flatten the crops to this radius using a short plank underfoot and held taut up against the foot by your hand pulling up on a rope attached to the plank on either side of your foot.
I have not detailed the smaller circles as they do not appear to be exact anyway in this photo and they can almost be done by judgement, they are details that i can add, but no purpose to my demonstration will be added.
PS it may be that a meter or two needs to be knocked off the diameter to be flattened round the poles that I mentioned......i dont have a technical drawing board to work on to establish this, but I could easily establish this if need be.
of course the major problem will be walking round the circle without
inadvertant trampling
sighting devices/theodalites can be had for about £30 on ebay
and a laser measurer with enough range about £80
However I suspect students studying architecture and surveying
etc would have access to all sorts of equipment and everyone likes an unofficial challenging prank
Well Done!
although i can't help but feel there might have been a better way for you to have spent that time!
well done!
woooo.
makes my efforts as a teenager distinctly primative!
well done.