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by alley

and much of *their* behavior. What's all that about, eh?

For instance, why are post-pubescent males seemingly incapable of being friends with most anyone* of the opposite sex whose pants they do not secretly wish to get into? And don't just say it's that they want to get into all girls' pants; that's not true.

*I might be exaggerating a little bit, but c'mon, for the most part, this is usually the case.

alley | 20 Jan '08, 08:46 | Send note | Report this | Reply

cause

most girls are boring


^pretty much

by mostly i'd say 60% though, so it's not all bad.


I'd go with 90% of boys

are boring and/or talk out of their bottoms. Therefore girls win. Every time. :P


a girls pants is a nice place?

im joking. i dont secretly want to get into lots of my girl/friends pants. i wouldnt mind. but i dont actively WANT to.

:)


don't blame the blokes

it's not our fault god pumped us full of testosterone.


Here I'd argue that my best friend is a girl

but I'm in love with her, not so secretly any more, so...gotta agree with Mr. Twee, it's a God matter - take it up with him.


yeah

take it up with god. I think its just because a woman is a beautiful thing. who doesnt want to naked cuddle a beautiful thing?


friends = attraction to one another.

the key is to determine whether it's a sexual attraction or not.


I've tried many a time to get in a girl's pants

All to no avail.

My balls just dangle out and it looks silly.


^WInnnn!

special agent Wyn


nah

that's a bit trite, sweeping and hackneyed.


it becasue we're blokes

And by god, if its female, our first instinct is to ravish it.

Sorry ladies, but if your attrative, every single one of your male friends would get off with you given half a chance.

If your not attractive, its 80% of your male friends.

If your repulsive, 50% if they've just been dumped and your drunk.

Your only safe if yoru related to the bloke.


?

Why?


I really hate this

I really hate this, I do try hard as a man not to instantly picture bad thoughts when I meet a girl. I like to think of myself as a well adjusted, 21st century kind of guy, and I do have lots of female friends, but I'm not going to deny, that at some point I have thought about them in a sexual manner. Seriously, it sounds trite, but we really can not help it. However, it doesnt mean we have to act on it, and it doesnt mean we have to use the lamest most cliched "since we are such good friends" lines if we do.


i think the feeling probably happens the other way

girls would be lying if they say they have never fancied a friend, or even considered what it might be like. Just they like to call men bastards for it.


^^

i think so too


well of course

But girls will easily make friends with guys they don't fancy, whereas, at a certain age, it seems guys only make new friends with girls they are attracted to. With guy friends I've made during this college age time, like we may get along famously, but I can't help but think if they weren't attracted to me, they wouldn't have started hanging out with me.


fuck you

I'm not saying I'm super attractive, I'm just saying that my latest guy friends are attracted to me, and I think that maybe they might not even have noticed me as a potential friend were it not for this. In fact, I'm describing an insecurity.


ok though tbf

reading back over it now, I see how you could have perceived it as haughty. But it wasn't.


if you're of the same age

and you are friends, i.e. enjoy each other's company, then they would have it off with you if they could. That's not to say they WILL, nor that they cannot appreciate why they CAN'T.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand.


it was

a sort of half-joking post. It's true, but not something I have complete trouble understanding. Just there was a slew of threads complaining about girls.


Probably 80%

of my friends are Female.Most guys can be dick heads and I girls are just generally rad.


Riddlestone

be honest, you know deep down you are saying this in the hope of getting some female interest... "oh he's so sweeet and senstive, soooo unlike those testerone filled losers, kind of a poet type." You'll deny it of course, but you know this to be true... I once was you.
P.S. It doesnt work!


he's not disagreeing with me

but I fucking hate this "g0d i haet all guys/girls" bullshit. You can accept certain biological/psychological realities and still find great people in amongst the vast spread of human arseholery that transcends gender.


Quite.

Indeed.


I'm denying it

a lot of my friends really are female.


ok

and how many of them have you thought about trying it on with? (aplogies, I am kind of assuming you are heterosexual here)


I'd be lying if I said none..

but only with a couple from when I first met them.


it's always a two-way thing

- if i thought someone had feelings for me, I would want to spend less time with them as it would be kind of awkward. Ergo, if I wanted to be confusing, I'd just carry on being friends with them

If we are just talking about sex and getting into pants, then it does seem men are less able to completely hide how they feel (whether it's an intermittent flirty look, or staring at tits). This, I find weird. Sorry!

If you've established your friends, then it can't be that difficult to repress urges?


*you're*

*


^

a woman collared me for looking at her baps in Tesco the other day.

They were literally hanging out, so i think i was well within my rights.


you were collared?

like, were you also taking pictures of them?

couldn't she have got baps of her own? or some other bread product?


not quite

i was trying to pick a yoghurt, and she walked past with her boobs pretty much on show, so i did a quick face/boobs/floor, as ya do. then the same happened when i was picking a bread roll, but she noted the whole eyes-on-chest thing. then when i went for a jug of milk she came by again, my eyes automatically shifted to her boobs again (they were really special), and she tutted and sarcastically quipped 'yeah, can i help you?'. my head was thinking 'say something witty', but i panicked and scuttled off.


you're my favourite poster

officially

She was obviously a special case, but I don't think I should have to wear a hijab to avoid having that scanning thing done to me.

It's actually quite funny I s'pose; the less experienced the male friend is, the more stupidly obvious he will be. Which is oddly endearing (in a non-sexual way, obviously).

sorry for all these generalisations


You went for a jug of milk?

Is that, in any way, a euphemism?


looking

at cleavage should be like looking at the sun! you get a quick idea then look away!


According to my mate

There's a guy's way of clearing up and a girls way. She meant when you go to someone's house for a meal then offer to wash up. Guys just wash up. Girls put everything away, wipe down surfaces, sweep kitchen floor.

I'm not sure about this definition tho' I know a lot of guys who tidy up ultra thoroughly.


It might just me a misconception.

I generally have a constant low-level flirting thing going on.

Especially with Boys.

I don't really know why.


Until fairly recently

I lived with three girls and I didn't want to 'get into' any of them. They weren't minging or anything but for some reason I was sort of desensitised to them from the start.

Normally I'm fucking hopeless with girls but I never really thought about them in 'that way'. Which is odd, because I usually actively look for things to find attractive about girls, presumably because I'm a glutton for punishment.


Ultimately it's inevitable you'll make friends with people who you find attractive

(or who find you attractive).

If there's 30 people in a room and you have to choose who to talk to, you're pretty much certain to choose the one who looks the most appealing to you.

At the same time, whilst I'd certainly say I've got female friends who I find attractive, that certainly doesn't mean I don't genuinely value them as friends.

A lot of women seem to think (and it sometimes is the case) that if a guy fancies you and his friends with you then he's not really your friend. But I see no reason why that has to be true at all.


....

Exactly this ^

I've got 3 really good female friends, that I do really find attractive, but I also get on with them really well and are great company.

It'd be much easier for me if I didn't fancy them, but sadly I can't do much about that


i don't agree with the last bit

i've never known any girl to think that. only boys who fancy girls they are friends with.


I have to agree this is very true.....

and I was naive enough to think that it was simply a coincedence that most of my female friends are attractive.


This is untrue of my behavior.

There are guys who are not like this at all, although I agree that the majority are.

Sexual thoughts do randomly appear in my mind sometimes when I haven't consciously ment them to. Or I've had sexual dreams about girls that I have never thought about in that way. I guess this is just being male though.

I don't want to have sex with any random girl, or girl I am friends with full stop. I might secretly want to go out with one of my friends but thats it.