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The Weekly DiScussion: bad cover versions

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by Alex Denney

There’s an old story that, somewhere back in the purple haze of the mythical ‘60s, John Lennon secretly wanted to be in the Rolling Stones to snatch some of the bad-boy cred that eluded him with the day job, and that likewise, Mick Jagger, being the super-ambitious, proverbial cold fish he is, thirsted after mop-topped glory as a gazillion-selling Beatle.

Whichever side of the fence marked 'credibility' you’re sat on, it seems, the grass is always greener on the other side – hence, one might reasonably assume, Manic Street Preachers’ recent decision to cover Rihanna’s torrential über-hit of last year, ‘Umbrella’, and KT Tunstall’s forthcoming B-side version of Bloc Party’s ‘The Prayer’.

Our advice? Stick to what you’re good at.

Now, we’d hesitate to give you the official DiS verdict on the Manics’ effort, which will be given away as part of a free covers CD with NME next week, but suffice to say it has a widdly guitar solo in it, a gesture somewhat akin to gluing a prosthetic leg onto a millipede called Anne Boleyn. Tunstall actually acquits herself more respectably, but more to the point, well, what is the fucking point, exactly?

If you listen closely to the end of that Tunstall track, you’ll hear the cracked-velvet tones of one who has a lot to answer for. Jo Whiley’s Live Lounge is like some kind of pop Auschwitz, slaughtering the hits and belching out the foul black smoke of assorted pointless schmindie covers, assorted horrors available in handy disc format from late last year.

Hope springs anew, however, in the form of Klaxons’ hooking up with Rihanna herself for yet another ‘reimagining’ of ‘Umbrella’ at the BRIT Awards this evening, but just in case they were thinking of coming a cropper, here’s a list of five recent indie-pop covers that went down like an Eskimo’s balls at bathtime, i.e. not at all...

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The Flaming LipsCan’t Get You Out Of My Head’ (YouTube) – On which the Oklahoma psych-warriors go down the Nick Cave route of possibly taking Kylie Minogue too seriously by stuffing her career re-launching classic with portentous strings and tremulous drum rolls to accentuate the song’s creepy lyrical undertow. Points for trying and all, but really, you can’t help but miss the hotpants.

The Arctic MonkeysLove Machine’ (YouTube) – Where's me washboard? The Monkeys finally justify those George Formby comparisons with a shonky skiffle cover of Girls Alouds’ finest moment to date. Squint your eyes a bit, and – actually no, it’s still cack. But at least it seems to have been recorded in a slightly more generous spirit than the usual ‘here is a disposable chart hit I’ve deigned to transcribe into sacred rock text’ condescension.

Panic At the DiscoManeater’ (YouTube) – Icons of emo and punctuation litterbugs PATD’s take on Nelly Furtado’s awesome tune is little short of desecration, tossing around pointless jazz chords like shit-smelling confetti. The whole thing sounds like it’s being constantly sped up to some imagined climax 30 minutes in where their awful harmonies sear and bend ‘til they’re in unison and a voice announces calmly that you’ve just wasted half an hour of your life.

Final FantasyFantasy’ (YouTube) – Never mind that Mariah Carey’s best tune – Christmas blah duly noted – came courtesy of a sizeable lift from well-cool Talking Heads alumnus group the Tom Tom Club, what we really need is Owen Pallett’s minimal string-based retooling to remind us that, hey, this pop malarkey’s actually a doddle. Er, except this is quite shit, isn;t it Owen?

Xiu XiuUnder Pressure’ – Absurdly fiddly avant-indie armpit sniffers get down and dirty with Fred 'n' Dave’s 1981 fist-clenching anthem? Pass the razorblades on toast. But wait, come back! Away from the luvvie histrionics of aforementioned pair at their eighties worst, Xiu Xiu offer a surprisingly forceful reminder of the song’s roots as a tale of a man on the edge, squalling free-jazz sax and everything.

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DiScuss: is there any merit to be found in indie acts covering pop hits? Is knees-up bonhomie ever an excuse? And what about vice-versa: can pop do indie well? Support your argument using examples.

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Pulp 'Bad Cover Version'



I love that Pulp video (obviously)

I hate the smug superiority of 'real' bands covering pop songs. I can't think of any examples.

Thanks


^exactly what he said. Word for word. Including the bit about the Pulp video.

Indie covers of pop songs can be good if the person's doing it 'cos they really love the song but done ironically it is truly, truly horrible.


yeah

see travis doing 'hit me baby one more time' for this brand of wanky irony...


Muse doing

feeling good? Sounds pretty nifty to me.


Sounds

fucking dreadful to me


There's absolutely no point in covering Mariah Carey's Fantasy

It's already one of the finest pop moments of the last 20 years. Leave it alone!


xiu xiu's cover of "don't cha"

is pretty much the worst piece of music ever recorded. it's awesome


Good god...

PATD's is worse than Boy Kill Boy's version. Ouch. And I love Panic.


Haha,

wow.


My God

<rolls over. Dies>


HA!


i was almost sick

when he started doing his impression of a guitar solo.


I'm sure

that there is absolutely no point in Newton Faulkener covering 'Teardrop' apart from to annoy me.


I'm sure

that there is absolutely no point in Newton Faulkener existing other than to annoy me.


FF's effort

isn't too bad until he starts singing. Then it kind of goes on and on and on and on... It would have probably worked well live I imagine, which is where all cover versions should remain. They nearly always suck on record. Unless they're done by Johnny Cash, Arab Strap or The Slits.


Ella, ella, ella

Rihanna's big hit has already been covered by Biffy Clyro, Plain White T's, Mandy Moore, Tegan & Sara, Patrick Wolf, Starsailor, McFly, Linkin Park, My Chemical Romance and Keith Urban with Carrie Underwood.

Anyone think the Manics might have missed the boat?

Worst indie cover of a rap song: The Magic Numbers covering 'Crazy In Love'

Best indie cover of a rap song: The Gourds doing Snoop Dogg's 'Gin & Juice'


and the

biffy cover is actually pretty good


true to that magic numbers cover

one of the msot horrible things ever, and i'm considering everything ever there.

tbh i prefer the manics one to the biffy one, but then i generally prefer manics to biffy. the biffy one scarily earnest, whereas the manics are more conscious that it's just a big pop song. (like most of there recent stuff)


UGH HELLO!

kylie like totally didn't wear hot pants in the "can't get you outta my head" video, she wore that amazing white hooded-jumpsuit/catsuit that basically didn't cover anything but her hair...


Doesn't change the fact that...

...I REALLY miss those hotpants.

Coyne vs Kylie


UGH HELLO! number 2

'Spinning Around' was the comeback relaunch single.


ARGH! FUCKING HELL!

Is there NOTHING that jazz lounge cunt can't ruin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_31lpROkV0


FUNKY

if u knw wot im sayin (BATTY)


thats pretty fucking great

also if you think that's either remotely "jazz" or remotely "lounge" you need to listen to more music


Worst Cover is probably

Muse doing Dracula Mountain or Mark Ronson doing Stop Me if You Think I'm falling in love with you


We hate it when...

...cover versions become more successful then the originals...


Damn you Hendrix!

Damn you Buckley*!

*Depending on how you define success.


than^

grrr


:'(

I did not need reminding of this abomination.


Original Under Pressure

at "eighties worst"? Dancing in the Street, sure... but this song is ace. This is so obviously the case I don't feel under pressure to fly over and strangle somebody.

Sure - of course! - there's lots of great covers. We've discussed them here a zillion times. The above don't seem to do that though I've not heard them all.

As a rule, I would say a cover should re-tooled such that it offers new insight on the artist covering it.


My favourite cover:

Hurra Torpedo - Total Eclipse of the Heart.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ysUjYAi0WcQ


Vetiver

are releasing a covers album this year.


piss=boiling

"Rihanna's big hit has already been covered by Biffy Clyro, Plain White T's, Mandy Moore, Tegan & Sara, Patrick Wolf, Starsailor, McFly, Linkin Park, My Chemical Romance and Keith Urban with Carrie Underwood"

I FUCKING HAAAAAAAAATE it when I hear so-called 'alternative' bands covering radio-pop-hits. It's such a cynical fucking attempt at getting more radio (1) play...blaaargh!! bands as brands, wank. Wank bands as brands, even wanker.

*and relax*


I've heard many po-faced acoustic versions of this as well

In pubs and ting... Gak.

Don't do ironic covers, mean every word!


Tom Waits covers

I nominate Tom Waits covers as a genre of shit covers in its own right.


Independent Women by Elbow, anyone?

It seems to me neither cred nor pretentious, just a jolly good time.


how come no-one has mentionned...

..... the lemonheads? Mrs. Robinson? Indie band covering pop genius? Not shit and not even a reworking of the song - just the same song played to today's (90s) tastes. While offering nothing new musically you can't deny it's a belter!

Of course there are others (and better covers at that) but i always think of the lemonheads when pop covers are mentionned.


is it wrong

that mechanical bride's version of this at leeds festival warmed my cold heart?


bitches ain't shit

the ben folds version.

ive never been able to comfortably lump it in the pretentious, poingant, funny or pointless bin.

ive gone through all 4 categories with it i think.


All Calvin Harris songs

sound like they're covers of Har Mar Superstar songs to me.


the elbow cover was of

One Thing by Amerie. It, like Elbow in general, was excellente.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - Elbow are a fucking incredible band; Garvey for President.


I'm surprised no-one's mentioned..

Nouvelle Vague.I like their cover of 'The Killing Moon' by Echo & The Bunnymen...it's hard to go wrong with that song though...

Echo & The Bunnymen's cover of The Doors' 'People Are Strange' isn't THAT bad either..