well I like it anyway - listening to them now for the first time in yonks.
They were pretty much dismissed at the time though weren't they? So am i alone in liking Mary Star of the Sea?
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the album was acclaimed for a few months - "best since Siamese Dream!!!" kinda thing.
they had a lot of good songs, they just never made it to their album. if only they'd finished the djali zwan LP :(
Zwan = SP-Lite!
The solo album was better. Controversial eh? ;)
yes
have ten controversy points.
oh, I stand corrected.
I thought they got bad reviews etc basically for sounding a bit too happy i.e. not being the Shpumpkins.
nah
it was his solo LP that got really slated.
justifiably?
I haven't heard his solo stuff
i only listened to it once
it was ok. i saw him play most of it live, that was fun. had a totally different setup to anything he's ever done as well - 2 x synth players, someone on electronic drums and billy on guitar/vocals. plus some funky lights.
Guntrip, where did you see him?
I saw him perform it at The Hammersmith Apollo I think.
forum in kentish town.
he did two nights there in june 2005. i remember 'cause i saw him either the day before or day after my birthday :)
I was there too
and I cried afterwards, cos I'd just seen Billy live. Ahem.
Must give Zwan a relisten sometime.
Maybe it was the forum I saw him then?
I cant remember really. I know it was in June because I went to Glastonbury the week after, and I doubt he would have done more than one venue in London.
I just remember ther being a huge dot matrix screen behind him, it was amazing. For the last song he just came on by himself and played his guitar.
His band members had the wierdest synths I had ever seen.
i liked this album a lot
in the summer after its release.
Its got some damn fine songs on it
and a couple of duds, but the singles are glorious and up there the Pumpkins finest.
i thought it was a great
summery album, and they were really good live. pajo + sweeney + corgan guitar solo battles!
A couple of tracks were pretty good,
but The Future Embrace was a much better album.
End transmission.
you in "actually quite wrong" shocker.
Billy Corgan in "actually quite bald" shocker.
Your face in "actually quite ugly" shocker.
Yo mama in "actually so fat" shocker.
etc.etc.etc.
Im the controversial one on here!
Get back to shock-school kiddo!
meandthatarmy in
Bobby Gillespie's younger brother with downs syndrome lookalike shocker.
future embrace
was utter gash
^ WRONG
So true.
Zwan
Rocked like fuck. The Future Embrace is a horribly bleak, tuneless, sterile, emaciated dog turd.
^ WRONG
Busy day?
^ WRONG
I'm listening to it for the first time
since i first bought it. SP Lite sums it up pretty well. Only 'Ride a Black Swan' has been worth listening to again (so far)
that'll be staying on the shelf for another few years
1 or 2 half decent songs, the rest is pretty unremarkable
Listen to DFA1979 instead
I did yesterday and wasn't disappointed.
i absolutely LOVED
both when they came out.
i haven't dared listen to either in a while though. 'specially not after 'zeitgeist.'
they never released the best songs
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=zwan%20AND%20mediatype%3Aetree%20AND%20collection%3Aetree
archive.org and search for Zwan basically, the best songs to look out for are Spilt Milk (rifftastic), A New Poetry, My Life & Times, loads of stuff that's worthwhile, he earlier shows were better, towards the end they were just plugging the album mostly, no wonder it got so dull for the others...
I turned on the telly one night and Daivd Pajo was on Top Of The Pops
and that's good enough for me.
^ This
entirely.
and with slightly more dignity than Jo Strummer when he went on.
Yeah, I like it a lot
Better than anything he's released since. I think I'll dig it out now.
I really like it too
has a lovely euphoric whooooosh all the way through it.
Zane Lowe
read out my email question to Billy and Matt on Gonzo about how David Pajo was getting used to being in a band that does promos and tv and stuff...the reply was an awkward silence, they split 2 weeks after that !!
For Your Love acoustic version is a fantastic song
euphoric whoosh
I'll second the thumbs up joyfulness of the zwan record. Definitely helped by being the most only-a-quid-in-fopp cd ever recorded.
^
excluding Tim Burgess' solo album.
^Got
See also Wclef Jean's 'Ecleftic: II Sides to a Book'. Got.
Couldnae stand it
not The Future Embrace. The whole Zwan thing had this air of forced cheeriness about it: the mags seemed to be saying it was "Billy's Happy Band," and here he was on TV wearing a shit eating grin that looked like it was going to fade the second the camera went off him.
The album itself: well, what a waste of a potentially great team of people.
I think I reviewed it on this very site
Can't remember, it's been a while.
I really enjoyed it when it first came out. A couple of stinkers - 'Settle Down' did the opposite of growing on me, and 'Heartsong' I can live without - but to me it was less Siamese Dream-lite and more upbeat, vaguely god-bothering indie.
It's a huge shame the Djali Zwan was all but canned (there's a few songs on the Spun soundtrack).