First gig of the year announced and it's in Torornto?
News on the new album seems to be very thin on the ground. Gutted
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Toronto:
not far away enough.
^Too true
Apparently Oasis are the "greatest rock and roll band ever", according to NME readers:
http://www.nme.com/index.php?class=rate&ratename=greatestbandever
Thus proving what utter cunts both the NME and anyone involved with them are (a recurring DiS theme, I know, but one that cannot be overstretched).
meh
it's true though
Overrated
In my humble opinion
Incredibly so!
The most banal band in human existence (bar The Enemy, perhaps).
so so so so so
right.
nme jabs. again. boring
get over yourselves, admittedly they are not the pinnacle of high culture but they serve a purpose and have some brilliant music if listened to in the right situation. i.e pissed with your mates. there is so much snobbery on here, which is greatly irritating. why can't someone enjoy 'slide away' as well as some obscure mogwai, explosions in the sky bla bla. music is about rekindling memories, regardless of the song.
Disliking
Oasis isn't snobbery. It's called 'taste'.
Oasis?
Fuck off.
If not liking Oasis is being a snob, then a snob I shall be.
well
disliking them is fine, but getting a kick out of denouncing the nme's music is quite pathetic
I don't get a kick from it at all
I find it fucking frustrating, to be honest. They are able to reach a- admittedly dwindling - mass, nationwide audience, yet they choose to promote utter, utter shite. It's nonsensical. And, regarding my earlier post re: NME, I was criticizing the ridiculous notion that Oasis are the greatest band in the world. Even a hardened Oasis fan would have to admit that this simply isn't true.
dave
well it seems as if the nme is suffering for their blatent incompetence, so dont keep yourself awake at night.
it's a vote, Dave...
Um, it was the nationwide audience that voted Oasis the greatest rock n roll band ever. Not the nme.
I'm fully aware of that...
... which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
Also, this vindicates my point -
If NME had given more credence to, for example, Pavement throughout the 90s than Oasis, surely the vote would be different?
what is your point?!
Um...
So a band which sold themselves as relentlessly and unashamedly populist come out top in a meaningless online vote? And its all because because despite front covers and years of rave reviews, the NME didn't do enough to champion Pavement.
Right.
yup
tasty
Its called, 'i sit in my room allday and marvel at my superlative knowledge of pretentious music, thus technically making me superior.'
Or
it could be, they are suited to your taste. They are not suited to my taste.
i agree
theyre shit, no doubt about it!
I've never once attacked anyone for enjoying Oasis.
I would never be so conceited as to insult anyone because of their taste in music. If you gain pleasure from listening to Oasis, then good for you. But they say nothing to me and, to my ears, they're completely dull. That doesn't make me better or worse than anybody else, t'is simply an opinion.
Thinking that Oasis are overrated
Is the same thing as being pretentious?
You learn something new every day.
pretentious attitudes
slurring oasis is an example. but they are overated, you're right.
How is slurring Oasis...
... betraying "pretentious attitudes"? Surely stating an opinion, however much you may disagree with it, is pretty reasonable?
yeah
the irony is i dont even like the band much, your opinions are fine and reasonable, as are mine. i just dislike the notion of spending time negatively commenting on bands that this website finds intolerable, for whatever reason. and surely its unecessary to mock another organisation if this website offers such formidable advice.
It may be unecessary...
... but, in this particular case, it was quite relevant to the thread's topic.
which
was my problem in the first place.
im going to listen to velvet underground, bye.
Not that this is what's happened here
But I feel it may be what pinkmoon is alluding to, there's nothing wrong with slagging a band's music off as much as you like since you're entitled to your own opinion, yet if you start having a go at an individual merely for liking a particular band, that's pretty pathetic.
I didn't...
... and have stated why I would never do that above.
Than everyone's a winner!
http://www.rtecc.com/images/v2/logos/winenterprises.jpg
i hate oasis
because they were what was constantly played throught my entire childhood. they are boring, repetitive and i hate the singer (can't remember which one)'s voice is DIRE. they are constantly built up to be some kind of indie icon and i HATE it, yes get called a snob for not liking them. i'm not a snob i just have my own opinion.
Oasis
represent the death of original ideas. Is that pretentious enough for you?
Don't fix what ain't broke :P
That
phrase is almost as hackneyed as Oasis' entire back-catalogue.
here's
another one
"You can't polish a turd"
that is called
moronic
explain
100 words or less
People were ripping off The Beatles
long before Oasis were.
has anyone mentioned that Oasis are the worst band ever?
no? Well they are
they're responsible for all of the shitty quality of music we've had to face since their birth, both in stylistic terms (hey every single ladrock band formed after 1995) and in literal "shitty quality" terms (since What's The Story Morning Glory is a ridiculously overcompressed bag of earbleedingly loud dogshite, which was partly made popular by deign of it's unnecessary volume, thus making every rock band since then strain for the loudest, most aurally unpleasant sound they can find, as long as it "grabs you" on the radio)
Yeah, fuck Oasis with a baseball bat with a load of AIDS all over it. They suck balls and all of their fans would probably be better off dead
^this
it is horribly cringy every time my 'laddish' mates want to sing along to wonderwall or champagne supernova or some other such bollocks :(
god i'd be happier if they liked utter toss like Joe Lean And The Jong Jong Jong or The Ting Tings or some shit like that - at least they'd be up to date :/
pretentious twat
why does it matter if someone's taste is up to date? oasis shit all over the ting tings and joe lean. all of you are pretentious music snobs who listen to all these obscure bands to create an image. not all mainstream bands are bad
not all mainstream bands are bad...
but oasis sure as hell are
<3
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
No
Actually, I blame the Strokes and the Libertines for all the piss poor, postpunk skinny jean 80s inflected dogpiss that has infested music since around 2001.
This thread makes me sick.
Oasis are good. Not breathtaking, but good.
oh come on
which ever way you look at it oasis are work class heroes, they did exactly what they said thay would.
LOLZ
i think you mean "working class stereotypes".
It's impossible
to put into words how much damage this band have done to music
have a go
I think they've written some amazing songs
and the first record influenced lots of really great bands. I think to say that they've damaged music is pretty idiotic.
the best thing about a new Oasis record
is that it's sure to bring The_Glory back to these boards <3
Please stop it.....
with these threads!
This was obviously an Oasis fan (of which there are many) who is excited about hearing about them.
Why do people use that as an excuse to start slagging them off. Its become extremely boring. :&
what a coincidence, I find Oasis extremely boring
and yet I am bombarded with them wether I like it or not.
flippin hell
fucking boring arguments again. Oasis last two albums, pretty gash bar a couple of songs. But I fucking love early oasis albums, singles and b-sides for reasons I won't be able to explain to any non lovers and have no desire to. Life goes on.
Plus they've done more for british music than alot of bands so fair play to them.
^ like what?
.
Well people are still talking about them. For a shit band that's okay.
People still talk about AIDS and Hitler too
Really?
There pretty important subjects aren't they.
You know what's great?
That Liam probably has no idea that this sort of argument exists. Him and Noel are probably in a studio right now, wondering where they can fit in another beefy solo, not giving a fuck what any little shunt on a messageboard thinks. Which is great. I bet the singer from Foals is on this site every day, weeping everytime someone says they don't like math-rock, or whatever.
^ This is true.
Oasis have become an institution unto themselves. They'll probably never write a truly great song ever again, but they will be able to fill a football stadium whenever they want to play. Fair do's.
The only thing that mars them is their continued insistence that they are relevant to modern music, rather than just a damned good nostalgic night out.
Oasis
For the record, i like Oasis. They done some great stuff in 94-96, with the odd flash of brilliance since then (Going Nowhere, Let's All Make Believe). It is true that they have been responsible for a lot of rubbish bands in their slipstream. And they have also been responsible for many great talents going all "retro" after hanging around with them (i'm looking at you Andy Bell, John Squire & Johnny Marr). However, none of this is really their fault. And yes, now they are like the Rolling Stones. A nostalgic night out. You can't really expect Noel to admit they aren't relevant anymore though
/\
This, basically what I was trying to say.
I'm neither
an ardent Oasis fan nor a hater.
I still think 'Live Forever' is one of the most affecting songs ever written. But this probably has more to do with personal interpretation.
Most of the single Oasis have ever put out I've found myself liking and Wonderwall, Don't Look Back in Anger, The Masterplan are genuinely great songs.
Having said that most of their albums contain some absolute stinkers.
But what I find more offensive is when people slate them, and to illustrate their musical superiority they list bands who are supossedly better.
"Oasis are shit, listen to Battles or Liars, man they're well deep."
Oasis = good pop music
I bet a bunch of you secretly like them but don't dare admit it.
Listening to definitely maybe recently....
it struck me how dated it sounds. Whereas you listen to some old Blur and it still sounds relatively fresh.
Oasis for me have their place, not a great band but a band I like to sing along to after a few in the pub.
I once
had Oasis soup...
its not about being a snob
I liked definitely maybe at the time too.
Its about disagreeing with the "greatest British band of all time" tag, which is just bollocks.
"ost derivative British band of all time" more like.
m
everything is fucking derivative
even bloody Vampire Weekend. Oasis have three world class albums; Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory and Masterplan. They are a good band but not the best ever and they were an important part of Brit Pop and have done a lot for British Pop music. End of.
there's derivative, and then there's Oasis
and don't swear at me, sunshine.
"greatest British band of all time"
They did come second to Shed Seven to be fair
wow
some people are idiots. For people that claim to be so open minded about music and think their music taste is superior in some way you are just as close minded as the average oasis fan. You just choose to stick to leftfield music while they stick to the mainstream, thats the only difference.
^ what?
this makes absolutely no sense.
how?
im saying people always get on their high horse about oasis. Usually with some comment about oasis fans. If i said i refused to listen to radiohead because their fans are insufferable music nerds people would say i was close minded. Yet its different with Oasis.
fwiw im not really an oasis fan i just find it annoying how people take this superior attitude about hating them.
OK fair point
but i don't think thats what most of the objections are about, its about the crappy dross they've been pumping out for the last 8 or so years.
*10 years.
People dismiss it all though. They wrote consistently great pop songs for a couple of years.
hmm, maybe
"defo" is an 8.
The rest: 6s at best.
The Libertines damaged music more than any band I can think of.
Pigeon Detectives
The Paddingtons
The Wombats
Jack fucking Penate
wombats
good call
I think it's safe
to say that every great band has been responsible for a lot of shite. It's the same in every artform: someone comes along, does something new and unusual, is copied by newer, more accessible artist (who is, more often than not, worse). The original artist, the person/band/whatever that did the thing in the first place, is either forgotten or unfairly ridiculed for spawning shite. Like the Pigeon Detectives.
A classic tale
I'm not a Libertines fan at all
but they really cannot be blamed for the influx of derivative, money-making copycat bands. If anything, they should be applauded for not only being the first to jump on a new/old trendy sound and make it their own (before any of these other chancers - you heard me The View) and also for showing up the music industry to be mostly made up of absolutely embarrassing, no-nothing turdhawks.
agreed
I really hate the Libertines.
If Oasis were the best
their last single would not have sounded exactly like a Dandy Warhol's b-side. Nuff said.
you're all "I hate Oasis, I spit on them"
yet I'd estimate at most of you posting here own at least 2 of their albums. Sneering at Oasis is fashionable these days, especially if done whilst wearing skinny jeans and secretly loving George Lamb. Someone find the shepherd, the flock is getting frisky.
you called?
sorry, I'm currently working as a shepherd. no one but me would find that amusing...carry on!
P.S. I'm in the camp that reckons Oasis haven't released anything worth much cop since their 2nd album (The Masterplan excluded). However I think they'd still be good to see live for (as already mentioned) nostalgia. In the same way that I don't dislike the Arctic Monkeys themselves but all the bands that are following, I don't dislike Oasis but i do dislike everyone that followed and wiped out much of the creative potential of the early 90s (Suede, Auteurs etc.)
blimey
that was quick. good work son.