There MUST be an easier way to learn how to play well without learning boring chords and putting your fingers through hell? My plan on mastering 'Angie' within a year has failed catasrophically. The songs i can (nearly) play are the ones where i abandon chords altogether, and even they don't sound anything like the originals. Has anyone got any advice? I'm tempted to just start a band first and learn how to play afterwards.
just play everything via Guitar Pro
I feel your pain
You will have to put your fingers through hell
dispense with the chords part, just tune all your strings to a good note (I find C# or F# works well) and run a screwdriver up and down the fretboard.
Naturally it goes without saying you should have a badass amp with lots of distortion.
Haha this
guitar hero.
do both
I'm not the best tutor on this matter, but I think the best mix is writing some stuff yourself (which can be interesting/non generic without being technically advanced, look at Stumbeline by the Smashing pumpkins, it's all power chord formations, but done nicely), but keep practicing those basic chord shapes, they come in handy.
Plus you'll notice the two start to converge, as you realise guitar lines that sound nice are actually forming a C chord. or something.
Try looking at picked/one note at a time songs as well, I remember learning to Come as You Are (Nirvana), Espionage (Green Day) and Street Spirit (Radiohead), as well as Space oddity for some chords as my first bunch of songs.
Dispense with the top 3 strings
3 strings, 2 fingers and 1 arsehole is all you need to play guitar (to paraphrase Keef).
didn't you know?
there is a magic pill which makes you instantly good at anything to try your hand at!
I mean really, this has to be the worlds most retarded question ever asked. "how do I become good at something that I can't be arsed to practice"
Maybe you just don't have the coordination , skill or ear to play guitar properly. So I would give up right now and go and try gardening or something.
or maybe he asked something different
like, are there other practice techniques other than learning the basic chords?
World's most retarded answer?
Well to be fair
There is no quick easy way to learn an instrument. You just have to keep at it, until your fingers stop hurting, until you can play the stuff you've been working on blah blah. Just get some lessons, or play everyday.
Depends what you wanna play really. Nothing wrong with the screwdriver method, better I'd say actually.
please see the title of the thread
"Learning how to play the guitar without putting any effort in or paying loads of moular.."
If that doesn't sound like a lazy bastard with no discernible talent then I don't know what does.
And guess what? the answer is STILL no.
Kids these days just want it all on a plate, hence guitar hero :-)
and then i read the post
if i had absolutely no talent whatsoever i'd play the drums, surely?
Zing!
^ yawn.
Dear lord you are tiresome
That would be quite the prayer
bring it on God
I no scare
although i'd been playing for a while
i found that picking up the bends guitar book was a great place to learn about chords and keys.
beyond that, guitar pro is excellent for learning whatever style you want to play.
but the hard part is getting your fingers strong enough, so make sure you get to work on exercising them. and use an acoustic at first, as switching to an electric will seem so much easier.
But you can't make an acoustic sound like
a train derailing. :-(
I'm pretty sure I've managed it in the past...
yes you flaming well can
especially my new 7 string acoustic
are you playing 'sensitive'
nu-metal? Like Staind?
when i'm not doing brooding nu-metal like cold!
or tribal nu-metal like Soulfly!
or emo nu-metal like that one slipknot song
(vermillion pt. 2)
I wholeheartedly agree with The bends
I also learnt from the Jeff Buckley tab book (Grace plus other stuff) and the Mellon Collie book is really good as it has easy songs, hard songs, loud songs, quiet songs etc, plus some really good articles at the start of the book.
I learnt on an unplugged electric guitar at first, as it was the quietest and easiest to play. I am, however, terrible.
My first three songs are being mastered at the moment though :S
To be fair though
that would be a bit like learing drums without actually hitting them.maybe.
You have to go through at least the basics as it'll help you.
It's also good for training your ear and being able to pick out chords without even playing them....it'll make you a better player.
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Truth bomb: You won't ever be good at anything without putting any effort in. You want advice? You play and you keep playing or (and I feel this needs to be in caps) YOU WILL CONTINUE BEING SHIT. AND A SLACKER. AND A FILTHY POSER. FOREVER.
In addition to my usual 'jump on your amp and scream'
type answers- joining/forming a band isn't a bad idea. The first instrument I learned was bass- i was learning at the same time as the drummer- so we had an ultra-basic rhythm section, but we were at the same kind of stage- and it was easy to put a song together and work out how to play that way.
Learning stuff you know is a good method, so you can tell what something should sound like. I learned bass playing along to Pixies records as they're nice simple memorable basslines. Guitar try something with easy power chords, if the chord shapes are easy it's less to worry about whilst you build up your finger strength and timing.
There's a certain amount of dedication needed to overcome the physical side though, if your twee fingers are really hurting try using lighter strings? If something like 9s hurt your fingers you should give up.
no
you wont learn anything unless you bookmark ultimate guitar, make your fingers bleed. And you will need to learn chords.
sorry, your plans are up in smoke now.
learning guitar
shouldnt be a chore. I used to play it about 5 hours a day learning cos the reward of learning a song was worth it.
*reward of being able to impress girls with guitar skillz
Girls arnt even impressed by guitars skills
I should'ave learned football
that doesn't really work either
it's the money they want
THE MONEY OR THE POWER
Your fingers will hurt until you get callouses.
Rockhard fingertips, it's great. Doesn't take that long for them to get hard.
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HI
A really good way of getting the feel of things
is just sitting watching tv whilst you play. Not play songs or anything, but you'll occasionally just find yourself trying to play along to the theme tunes and stuff, and hearing keys and working it out. And you don't get bored because you've got something else to do. It's pretty subliminal and stuff or whatever.
Good one
I used to do this all the time..I need to get back into the habit.
I'd at least nail
basic open chords and then bar chords.
Then you can do what you want.
You can get the hang of many songs using bat chords.
play with a rhythm track or metronome.
Also depend what you want to do..
If you want to learn songs you should learn the basics and practice a lot.
I actually don't pick up the guitar unless I write something and I know hardly any songs by other people.
Starting a band is a good idea.
In the end its the style music you want to play that determines the effort into breaking your fingers.
Luckily I listen to Earth mostly. hehe
I heard there's an easy guide to playing piano
but guitar takes a couple months of banging out chords. DDDD/AAAA/DDDD/AAAA then add a C chord and so on. If after 3 months you can't play an easy Rolling Stone song I'll eat my hat. You should be playing Angie reasonably well in 6 months. If you're young and talented a lot faster than that.
That your fingertips still hurt tells me you've been at it for about a week. C'mon man. Took longer than that to learn your multiplication tables, eh.
Oh yeah, here's the key point
practice every fucking day.
Play bass.
i want to do something technical that just any old noob couldn't master in a week!
You either want it or you dont
There's no easy way. Learning on a spanish-y nylon string could help with the sore fingers thing though, but learning the guitar should be a love thing, boring chords and all. Incidentally, nobody says you HAVE to play those chords, i regularly make up my own (i'm sure they're not original - far from it - but i'll be damned if i know what they're called!)
Probably a stupid question, but...
is there a set number of chords, or could people continuously make them up forever? I don't want to be the greatest guitarist in the world or anything, just as good as Davy Graham.
only use 4 strings
and stick to downtuned downstroked riffs
it worked for max in soulfly!
DIY brain transplant.
Easy.