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Would you support a band you really didn't like?

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by Zapsta

Say you, as a member of a largely unknown band, were offered a support slot with The Enemy - would you take it?

Zapsta | 26 Mar '08, 22:52 | Send note | Report this | Reply

Of courz

tak down the sistem from the insid innit


I don't think I'd be able to live with myself

If I did it I'd end up giving a speech mid set about hwo the audience need to expand their minds and discover that what they've paid to see it utter shite

Then I'd get get glassed but I'd probably feel it was worth it


Who are you to tell people what to listen to?

The chance to play YOUR music to a huge room filled with impressionable teens who might actually enjoy it = something everyone would do.


yeah exactly

i would love to support a shit band and bring my hardcore accordion band to the masses.


Credibility...

...hmm you'd be exactly the same band you were before you played the show.


I know that

*You* know that, but I suspect that a fair few existing fans would feel quite let down and disappointed by it. And people who were interested in hearing and becoming more familiar with your music beforehand might not be so keen once they find out what you've been up to, leaving you to the live the rest of your life amongst the ranks of The Enemy and The Fratellis. Or the strength of your music could shine through. But it might not.


Yeah

I get what you're saying, but 8 or 9 times out of 10, true fans can see the funny side :)


It's like when

The Dears supported Keane.


you don't think you'd be able to live with yourself?

But how else will you afford to feed that MASSIVE HIGH HORSE?


:D

^ actually the funniest person on this whole board.


I don't care!

At this point I really honestly don't care about coming across as uppity or pretentious or whatever

They are a phenomenally shit band and there's other shit bands that I think Oh yeah whatever let them get on with it BUT The Enemy rile me up, they're just a joke

So yes, I'm a self righteous cock, continue


sorry, was only joking

more power to your stance. It's surprising how little control bands have over who they're booked with, anyway - at least once they're at the support tour level.


Yeah

one of the most disappointing things i have learnt from playing music is that supporting a big band in a big venue isn't really that fun.

getting there at 2 in the afternoon, still not getting a soundcheck, going on stage at like half 6, getting hassled by security when backstage, playing to a room of people who couldn't care less. getting paid £20 despite having to bring your whole backline and then having your gear ejected from the stage or even venue by over zealous roadies the minute you finish your set.

I would pretty much only play a support slot in a big venue now if i really liked the band who were headlining and wanted to meet them.


Oooooooh

Who did you support?


No-one really massive

but i've done a few gigs to 2000-3000 size venues.

Its more the situation that is shit, i couldn't really slag off the bigger bands we've played with as people, except to say they hogged the soundcheck, which i'd probably do if i wa headlining the astoria or something.


Yeah

If you'd gotten that far, you'd feel you were entitled to take your time and make sure everything is perfect. It's the people behind the scenes who are the real idiots.


^

That sounds like a 'fun' experience andrew. Who were you supporting?


nah

i wasn't in LP when they supported klaxons. Incidentally i don't think LP knew what a soundcheck was.

I didn't want to sound like a prick bigging myself up but for the record we've supported the gossip, siouxsie sioux, the horrors,BRMC, Long Blondes, white rose movement, these new puritans and many others.


I agree

It's completely rubbish and 9 times out of 10 you will be treated like a bunch of horrible little worthless sniders.

But the actual gig part and getting to play to so many people is worth it, imo.


well

i've already alluded to this, but we were supporting the Young Knives tomorrow, which is cool, cause I like them, and it was at Leicester University, so all was ace.

But our guitarist doesn't like one of the other support acts, and when the promoter rang up to confirm the gig, he said that 'they weren't his cup of tea'. Said promoter was in that band, and promptly had us cancelled, but didn't tell us until today, the day before the gig.

Does that answer your question?


the young knives

i've supported them, and they are actually really nice. and si is their crew, so it will be fun!!!!


Did he actually say "cup of tea"?

Or was his language more fruity? Cos the promoter sounds like a walloper.


he swears blind

that thats what he said. The promoters said that he was very offensive about the band, but could only muster 'they're shocking' as a quote, but I'm sure he's more tact than that.

Either way, walloper indeed.


I bet the promoter cried himself to sleep

how dare someone have a bad word to say about his beautiful band eh? Walloper.


yeah

its also the kind of situation that, at such short notice, you find yourself struggling to explain away to people who've already bought tickets without sounding like a set of pricks!

Oh well. What happens on Thursday nights that I can now be happy I can enjoy instead?


You didn't do anything wrong though

Too many people in music have this horrible fascination with pretending they like everything and every crap band just to keep people happy so that they like them. I'd rather be respected than liked by anyone (what a lol). Just tell people they booted you off! Bastids.

I see you're in Nottingham. I went there once and hated it, so i don't know sorry hahaha :)


it's worse than that

i'm in rural south Leicestershire at the minute. I could go chase some pheasants around a country lane and return home in time to watch Adrian Chiles on the One show.


I'm back in rural South Leicestershire

from uni and I'm off to see the Young Knives minus your support tomorrow. I feel your pain. Do what I do and find a dingy locals pub and drink cider till you forget where you are.


really? which bit...

...i did that for the first time on Saturday, my parents have moved from my glamourous childhood home of Broughton Astley to some godforsaken no mans land between Barwell and Earl Shilton, and I'd not braved the locals until now!


I live in Broughton Astley's snobby neighbour

Dunton Bassett. Going slowly insane with the boredom of it all. I have caught and killed every living thing in a two acre radius and drank all the cider I can afford. My countryside entertainment options are thus exhausted.


snobby neighbour?

don't make me laugh :p

Check my profile.
I AM Dunton Bassett Cricket Club :)


Hang on, what?

I saw the Young Knives in Loughborough last year so wasn't going to bother this time around, but when I saw you were supporting* thought seriously about seeing if there were any tickets left on the door tonight. I smelt a rat with two local bands claiming to be first support and have no real desire to see the other band anyway.

(* But mostly because Johnny Foreigner have put their gig the same night back a month, to be honest)


yeah

its all a bit rubbish, but what can you do without sour grapes being assumed?

We had a good amount of people who bought tickets as well, nice to be told yesterday! Sorry we can't fill that Johnny Foreigner hole for you tonight.


On the flipside

If you're in a band, and you were putting on a gig, and one of the other bands said your band was shit, you wouldn't put them on. Well, I wouldn't anyway...

Having said that, I guess your guitarist didn't KNOW he was talking to someone in the band did he? Just unlucky really!


It depends on the band and whether I thought their fans'd like us.

I'd probably take the Enemy. I might feel different about the Hoosiers or Scouting for Girls. But I don't think the Hoosiers or Scouting for Girls would ever offer us a support slot so it's not really an issue...

I think the thing is, at the stage we're at,it's highly unlikely we'd get offered a support band with anyone unless the band themselves were really enthusiastic about what we were doing. And if the band in question were enthusiastic and wanted us to play then we'd do it.


Supporting a bigger band who you think are slightly shit

Consider it this way.

You'll be showing fools the path of righteousness. You're not the Samaritans, but it's your duty to save as many souls as you can.

I'm glad we've sorted all that out.


Surely it comes down to whether you're in it for the money & fame or because you're proud of your ar

I wouldn't support a band just for the exposure. Every small decision made whilst in the band is ink on the page of what will be a completely unblemished epitaph. Wut? £100, of course we'll do it.


*art/guff


I think some of it comes down

to how well you can pull off clearly knowing you're in an unusual situation. If you were indeed too precious about your "art", you may be accused of taking yourself too seriously and miss out on some good opportunities to play to some good people (who liked crap music). I despise U2, but if my band were supporting them, we'd loltimes x 6 and it would be a hilarious time all round. I may even go so far as to throw things at Bono.

In saying that though, there are plenty of bands i wouldn't play with due to intimidation or not feeling like it would be worth it. Bands like The Enemy though.. am i the only one who realises how funny that would be? Or is everyone too scared of brassnecking it?


I agree.

If only to use it as a realistic chance of popping some laxatives in ratboy's brew. I heard him described as 'the voice of a generation' before. Wow. Really really WOW. Where did i leave thos sleeping tablets?


Hmm

Hello, hello (Hola!)
We're at a place called Vertigo (Donde esta?)
Lights go down, and all I know
Is that you give me something
I can feel your love teaching me how
Your love is teaching me how, how to kneel, kneel

Clearly not THIS generation.


It's not just money & fame.

Surely I'm not the only one who enjoys the challenge of playing to new audiences? I don't give a damn for money & fame but anything that sounds out the ordinary tends to appeal to me purely 'cos it's a challenge.

I'd only do such things on my own terms and have turned down potentially decent 'exposure' gigs before 'cos they didn't sound/feel right but part of me enjoys playing gigs to non-'indie' audiences 'cos it's interesting to see what reaction you get.


I'd probably

do it. It'd be a laugh if nothing else and you'd get to do what you love, in front of lots of people.


depends if they were nice guys or not

if there music was a bit crap but they were cool then I would take it..

however, if were twats and there music was uberrubbish then...no


Chances are

you wouldn't even see the band, nevermind meet them.


My sisters

band supported Razorlight on a date of one of their tours. It gave them some exposure to people who would never have otherwise heard them and earned them some money to pump back into the band. No problem as far as I can see.


this ^


I think when you're in a band

you should play as many gigs as humanly possible. You can pick and choose when you're Radiohead eh.


Twisted Charm

My friends band were asked to support LCD Soundsystem in newcastle (they are from london)

they took two days off work to drive up there and back, had to bring all their gear and were only getting paid £50.

half way up the motorway the promoter phoned the say LCD didn't want them to play because their gear would take up too much room on the stage.

This is the gear they were only bringing because LCD wouldn't let them use their drumkit, and it would have taken two minutes for them to move their gear off after they played.

THIS IS THE SORT OF SHIT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

also know another band who didn't get a soundcheck when they supported 30seconds to mars at BRIXTON ACADEMY.


Okay

I'm thinking now that I'd probably just leave it.


Saying that

you could also play a gig with one of your favourite bands ever spending all evening hanging out in their dressing room and drinking their rider, and have them telling you how awesome you are andbuying your merch.

this has also happened to me, all be it only once.


RIGHT THATS IT

FUCK LCD SOUNDSYSTEM

theyre shit and ive never liked them. so this is the final straw.


50 quid, sadly, is standard tour support

and it is dumb to drive all the way to Newcastle for that, but yeah, promoter should have checked all this way in advance. What a twonk.

Hey, at least he told them before they arrived ;)


Although I'm not a fan

I'm pretty sure that "The boy least likely to" supported James Blunt on a tour. What happened to them.....


Jomes Blont

turned them into custard.


thems

the risks.


do the gig innit?

get exposure, take their fans, take their money, be better than them. win.


Of course I would

I play with bands I think are fucking shit most of the time, so why would this be any different?

It's fine to stand on a soap box when you're not in the position to make decisions like this...


get on it

Just do the gig, it's experience, money, it won't harm your rep unless u buddy up with them and produce another chav album to flog at hmv.
Maybe myspace link us up and get some free promo on here?! always on the lookout for new acts...


My sister supported Go West

they were really nice, got her more money,

She supported Jimmy Cliff on a whole tour got (I think £50) and he never came and said hello.

It's how it works, I'd take absolutely anything that's gonna guarantee you playing to a big audience, whether the band are shite or good


My friend's band

Supported this local band who her band hate and she made us shout out obscenities during any quiet moments which I actually enjoyed cause they are proper wankers


of course

it's a gig, and almost certainly an experience.


well

sometimes we don't even know who we're playing with..and a lot of times they are just as bad .

i would.


I still havent quite forgiven

Mogwai for supporting Manic Street Preachers on tour. Was probably ten years ago!

So I am saying, no, dont do it.


10 years ago?

when the manics were actually good?

I would've killed to have made one of those gigs.


YES

Assuming you dislike The Enemy and LIKE your own band, the thinking should go...

"We're MUCH BETTER than The Enemy. Let's put on the best gig ever, blow them off the stage and steal all their re-educated fans"


I just think its damaging to your band

to play to a room full of people without a proper soundcheck, which sounds the norm from the above. So you get damaged by association of supporting a shit band, and those that do actually watch think you are shit because the sound is rubbish and you are pissed off.

Screw that, go to the pub.


My band supported the Enemy once

Mind you they weren't as big then (as we were both supporting 'Dogs' ffs) but as it turned out it was a good old gig!
So yeah in my opinion - take it.


Come on people

of course you'd support a big, shit band. I mean, Arcade Fire supported U2.


Do the gig

Do it! And blow them off the stage, the Enmey are cack.