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Foals Review On Pitchfork

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by ElasticMan

It reads a lot more acuratly to me than other reviews I have seen, hopefully we can now have an end to the DiS/NME style hype about what has turned out to be a distinctly average band.

ElasticMan | 10 Apr '08, 10:29 | Send note | Report this | Reply

I can't be bothered to lay into Foals

because they aren't a bad band at all but I agree with the Pitchfork review more than the DiS one


One of the few things on Pitchfork

that I've agreed with in a while. As you said, it's certainly the most accurate review of the record that I've seen.


i totally agree.

i've come to trust pitchfork a lot more than recent DiS reviews (where 8/10 is the new average rating).

stop the hypemaking!


I'm interested to know how random average bands get picked out for hype

But not that interested. Anyway, Foals LOL


Easily

The best review I've read.

The band show loads of potential and are shit-hot players (specially the drummer)

But the vocals have little emotional resonance and he tends to just shout the same lyrics a lot.


*yawn*


It's definitely a good review

In the sense that it doesn't bow down to the hype.

However, i feel all this foals bashing lately is just a testament to the strangely jealous opinionated nation we have become.

I'd rather listen to, and see foals get big than see shit like the feeling everywhere. Good on them thats what i say. I think it's a waste of negative energy to throw it at a band that are actually good/hard working whether you like them or not.

I personally like the album a lot. Do i think it's going to stand the test of time? I don't know. But in the meantime im happy to dance my socks off to it.

This is why the review makes sense in my eyes. Doesn't over praise them, but mererly points out that maybe the over hype should take a step back and look at the bigger picture...


Yes you are right

I actually don't feel good being negative about the band but I just felt the album fell short of the hyperbole being generated around the band (which to a large extent is not the fault of the band). I also thought that certain reviews of the album were written in ingnorance of it's limitations.


I agree there.

I'm not sure how some records are reviewed. I.e. if the reviewer writes an extremely positive one influenced by hype and thier first listen, or an extremely negative one due to the lack of hype and the fact they are in a bad mood at the time.

At least this one sounds carefully crafted.


well

if you hype a band, you have to deal with the consequences that they're unlikely to live up to that hype.


The most accurate Pitchfork review ever?

After a few listens I would have give the album a DiS style 6/10. Therefore I agree.


Their reviews of Ghosts I-IV

is pretty accurate too.

Not a big Foals fan me'self tbh; will read the review later


ive fallen in love with the album

and i think im the only one :(


I have to conceed

that Olympic Airways is a very good song!


You're not

I love it, and can see that some of the criticism is valid. Also it helps that I am geographically distant to the hype.

No one I know has heard of Foals except through me.


yeah definately some of it is valid

he does yelp a lot.but i just wanted an album that made me dance.thats what it makes me do.i can put up with yelping if im just dancing


mmhmm

it is a supergood review. sums up just how i feel about it.


The review may be mostly accurate

but i get the impression that Pitchfork have many a gripe with the British hype machine that is pretty much shown in this review. They'd be right to knock it as the Brtish music media is rather lame, but i think in this particular instance it has perhaps clouded their judgement. I reckon if this album had come of the the blue then they may have CYHSY'd it. Well maybe not that far but at least looked for more positives in the album, of which there are quite a few. When i read the review i thought it got a lot right but kept bringing up the British thing, from which which the band have at least made an effort to detach themselves from.


im glad that

pitchfork has finally decided for us what to think about this band,
thank you daddy pitchfork


^ satire


It's what most of these sad freaks need

Own opinion? No thanks!


Here we go again.

You think people are all individuals, I think they are all the same (idiots) 90% of people anyway.
People are stupid and are happy to flock like Wilderbeest, ask Derren Brown.


Some people are too easily influenced, I agree with that.

90% of people is probably also quite accurate in society as a whole.

I don't believe 90% of DiS users need their opinion on music made for them.


I agree

probably more like 94-96% on Dis


Good review I agree

Score's a bit too low though- it is a fun album even if it is lacking in replay value.


Rubbish album

the work of a bunch of twats.
I'm not going to waste time reading the review but it sounds like it didn't get sucked in by the british hype.


I fell asleep on the bus listing to the Foals LP

There's prob one great song then the rest of it just sounds really contrived. It's for people who think Bloc Party are experimental.


*listening

.


Whatever you think of the album,

they're not twats.


I don't like Foals

and I find this review quite kind.

But why do you have to assume good reviews on DiS/NME are due to hype and not of someone actually really loving the band ?


I'd much rather see this band on my telly

Than 80 or so percent of popular British guitar bands.


stop pretending

you are a bunch of elitists (in a bad sense)

foals are just great, if you see them live , you will like them more... but then again no

The thing is that if foals were not on the NME cover you would have liked them more.

you are missing the whole point.

Dont think so much, not good


I don't read the NME or even look at it's cover

Having said that, it has been impossible to escape the hype on this board and when a band is so hyped you expect them to be good.
This band are "liked" becuase they are "different" and "new", not because they can write songs or an album, because it is plain to see that they can't.
All style ove substance.
Similar to Bloc party, except at least they managed to prodece a pretty decent album before making an utter shit one. Foals couldn't even manage that.

The truth is I gave Foals more of a chance than they deserved because they were hyped. I've sat throught the album at least three times. Had they not been hyped I would have done well to last two songs.

Shut up.


"It's for people who think Bloc Party are experimental."

no its not.its for people who like to dance :)


Dancing huh?

like in a "I command" PE kit, stroke vicitm kind of way?


i think

you slowly realise how good Antidotes really is when you start skipping two or three songs, then playing one, all the way to the end of the album


yeah that is a bit silly

foals FTW :P


Sielos:

Feck orf. I didn't even know they were on the NME cover. The first single was MINT; the second still decent but less so; the album is a wee bit pedestrian. This is my opinion, and would've been regardless of reading other reviews.


.

i think you should allow people who don't like foals the right to hold that opinion, rather than lazily branding them a bunch of elitists.


The point

I was trying to make. Thank you.


Foals are a reasonable band

the Pitchfork review agrees


Best live band

in the country. And Two Steps Twice is fucking killer.


I never said they were terrible

i just think they are average


^best live band in the country

i havent seen them but come on IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY?!


Easy

In the whole wide world even. Oh yes.


Oceansize for one

slay them in every single way.


yeah

i really like it when reviews back up my personal opinions so i can use them to make sweeping statements as well!


hahah

the voice of reason.


heh

i just find it staggering that someone would actually seem to think that everyone who likes this record is suddenly going to say "oh, wow, pitchfork have given it a 6. i must be wrong!".

also, 6/10 isn't even a bad mark! it's an average one.


indeed

it's odd how opinions from certain quarters seem to be held as objective fact.


...

i'm quite surprised by the size and ferocity of the backlash on here. i like foals.


There's no backlash

you mong. As far as I can see it's just people stating opinions.


i like the cut of your jib

For the benefit of marke- I'd like to add that all the comments I have made are my OPINIONS and not necessarily facts. In saying that now it means I don't have to prefix everything else I say with "in my opinion".
FYI my opinion is usually correct and if you adopt it you will save yourself alot of backtracking when you too realise foals are rubbish, half-hair style over substance.


my 10 pence

Its a good album. a great debut album.
the review does suffer from an anti-hype stance, and possibly an anti Brit feeling, it makes some relevant criticisms but is wrong about Red Socks Pugie and Heavy Water. the score is too low.
They are the best live band in the UK and are way beyond average.

I know some people here love to hate them, not sure why but everyone is entitled to think what they like, the haven't been the authors of their own hype but hey what band doesn't want to reach loads of people??


yeah but

i mean they're getting such good press coverage, and are on the telly lots and in the big papers and stuff and they have hair cuts and lots of people really seem to love them so, er like, they just can't be good can they? I mean their just so mainstreem, an dnowhere near obscure enough for me....

etc, etc...


First they're mainstream.

Second they are just plain rubbish
Third I have a hair cut (on both sides of my head)
Fourth Are you talking about Boyzone circa 1997?


yeah, i'm talking about boyzone

that was the classic era wasn't it, when they took the crown from take that after they'd split up.

what?


time to pretend

sorry Hahaharoldramis

foals are amazing live

im glad that a couple more 'dis'folks like them.

there is a great mgmt track called time to pretend, it reminds me of some people.

they are like some of my friends. when the rest of them are starting to hear their bands, they just dont like them any more.
scary


That says more about the company you keep

Also how self involved you are that you think everybody secretly shares your opinion but that they are pretending not to so they score cool points.
A quick look at hahahrolds taste and I can see Futureheads, David Bowie, Pavemnet, Elliott Smith, Talking Heads - I'm sure all of these little known underground artists have sold a few records.


Hang on

When did Hahaharoldramis' tastes enter the argument?


When I miss interpreted the mongy post above mine

I assume it was sorry haha for what I am about to say ie saying of ramis "they are like some of my friends. when the rest of them are starting to hear their bands, they just dont like them any more.
scary"
I can now see it's an apology for posting in the wrong place - in the wrong fucking place.
It was their first posts though so i can let that slip, but the opinions on the foals need to be crushed.


But...

Foals' sound has changed quite a lot since they started. Obviously this is going to make some peoples' opinions differ regarding the older stuff and the new material. FFS I can't believe I'm pointing this out.


yeah

ive always struggled to understand the appeal of Foals - and why they're constantly referred to as a Math band. I thought the P4k review was excellent in articulating some similar doubts (sorry Bilbo).


...

I really like the album and the band, but at the same time can't argue with much of the review. Depends how critical you are of music really. With a band like Foals I can't be bothered to dissect that the lyrics don't have a discernible meaning and not all of the slow songs work.


Meh

It's a pretty solid debut, probably a 6 or 7.

Though I'm just saying what about 20 other people have said here.


...

They're no Dillinger.


i like them

and I don't really care if you lot don't

moany faced elitist pricks

what a way to spend a day, being negative in a jealous manner ! lolz


...

I have to wonder what there is to be jealous of. They're probably massively in debt to publishers and the like - like every other two-bit indie band. And their fans are made up of children, people who watch Skins and scenester wankers.

They're no Dillinger.


that's quite funny

and probably true.


Seconded

Some of you kids might find this hard to understand, but not everybody loves Foals.
it's nothing to do with being elitist (I'm not sure how that is even relevant), it's becasue some of us know they are rubbish.


"it's becasue some of us know they are rubbish."

OH, and you were doing so well..


don't worry

that pretty much fails as well!


Haha :)

And there was me thinking that this thread would only cause me to shake my head in dismay.


so it does

I guess you can carry on feeling smug and superior.


i'm no kid

but i still love Foals, I think they're great so there! Fuck demographics!

This thread is really really stupid.