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by davoirgoir

cheerful subject i know but i'm writing about this for one of my uni courses and it's pretty insane thinking about it all again.
i was 12 when my grandad who i was very close to died.
the weird thing is were it to happen now i'm pretty sure that we wouldn;t be as close. i feel a bit odd admitting it but in a way him dying then means that i will always have an especially fond memory of him that perhaps i wouldn't have otherwise.
is this thread a bit too emo?

davoirgoir | 15 Apr '08, 21:18 | Send note | Report this | Reply

no

but what do you want us to say?


sorry

i guess i was just wondering how old people were and who it was that had died and what they thought about it.
whatever your thoughts are on it really.


ah right :)

in my case its kind of irrelevant. the person i lost is a person youre always close to for your whole life.


I see what you mean

but i dont know if i agree. I mean im still as close to my nan as i was when i was younger, perhaps more so. although im away for uni i dont see her as often but she still texts me and things :)


not at all

my grandfather died the other week, i wasn't close to him at all, and couldn't go to the funeral as i flew back to munich the day before. i felt awful not being sad about it, and i used to know him, but i haven't seen him in about 6 or so years. i wanted to be there for my mum, because it was hard for her; he basically disowned her last year when my grandmother had a stroke (nobody told her until days after it happened). tough situation, but from what she said she coped quite well.

after that, i really have a negative view of him, and i guess i can relate to your thoughts because had he died when i still knew him, and before he had essentially split my mother's side of the family apart, i would also have quite fond memories. well; better at least. he was never a lovable man but we used to have a little fun.


that's a shame...

i guess when you're younger you don't see all the not so great qualities of your family members.
i think because i never got to know as an adult i still really look up to him and see him still now as i did back then.
plus because he was the first person close to me that i lost he'll always have the biggest effect on me just because i'd never gone through something like that before.


Yeah i think thats true

but also in some cases the relationship can mature and evolve. My grandad died when i was about 10 or 11 and i still look up to him, but i think if he was still alive today we would get on just as well. I guess it depends.


i have never felt real grief

the closest i came was when my dog died about 2 years ago. it was strange, i was in hysterics. i'm really dreading it to be honest, i count myself lucky for that but it will happen one day i guess.


i think its important to feel it now and again

it makes you appreciate other things more


i do appreciate things,

and counting that as my only experience, i wouldn't say i appreciate anyone any less.


(obviously i don't KNOW that)

but i think it's harsh to say you need to feel grief to appreciate things.


well i think it puts things into perspective

im not saying you dont appreciate things as such, just that it helps people to do so.


yeah i guess,

but i think the other stuff that has happened in my family helps me to appreciate the relationships and people i do have. i guess people who do go through life without losing anyone or having any problems often don't realise just how lucky they are.


Yeah thats what i was essentially getting at

i think loss, or other things like that do often make you appreciate what you still have.


it's not pleasant

and hopefully that day is a long way off. weird as it is though, in a way that sort of grief comes out of something really great and special i.e. you loving that person loads.


i'm really strangely protective

about my mum. she's basically the only family i have and without her i would have nothing. i really really dread anything happening to her. i am lucky in that i'm so close to my friends i count them as family, but my mum is literally the only person i have in my family i can depend on. the thought of something happening terrifies me, i really don't know what i would do. thankfully she's still young and healthy :)


my grannie died when I was about 12

I was really torn up about it because...well, we were close in some ways.

I wrote a personal reflective about her death when I was 16 and actually made several people cry when reading it...:(

my other grannie died a few weeks ago but she wasn't a warm person so I was genuinely unmoved by her death, I barely knew her.

it's strange the difference in reactions over these two deaths.


some of the posts have also reminded me of what im reading at the moment

im up to the bit in moab is my washpot where stephen fry talks about emotions and how british culture dictates that your emotive response should be in relation to how you feel rather than the kind of occasion and what you think it warrants. Pretty interesting although not entirely relevant.


th person I was most upset about

was not a blood relative. She was my granny's step mum but everyone called her 'great gran', because my granny's real mother died when she was 3.

I guess I was just reflecting on how sad her very very very slow deteriation was. She was a very intelligent, beautiful woman, and she spent the last few years of her life in a home where she basically had no idea what was going on.


Well my nan died when I was like 9

well one of them, and I wasn't particularly close to her, and I wasn't really upset at all. I just remember saying "Oh that's a shame" to my mum when she told me, as we were getting ice lollies out of the freezer. Am I an awful person?


i dont want to dismiss

all your guys' losses. the way you feel is totally understandable. so when i say this i dont want to in any way belittle your experiences. but, as someone who lost their mother, i find the passing of grandparents decidedly un-sad. i see it as something that happens. old people pass away and they go somewhere else. its totally natural and i think, sometimes a relief for the grandma/pa in question. i almost see dying for grandparents as a happy thing (for them at least)

this is just my opinion. i hope no one takes offence


fair(ish) point

i know that if my mum died it'd massively affect me in a way that i don't think i can even comprehend, nor want to. in that way i agree that the death of a grandparent almost doesn't compare. but at the same time its still very very sad. i suppose it's the difference between getting kicked in the nuts and having your head cut off. knowing that one is much worse than the other doesn't stop it hurting when you get kicked in the nuts.


oh, that's so sad,

i'm really sorry to hear that.
which is why i said in my post that i appreciate everything i do have, and how i know i'm lucky for what i have.
you are right though, i hold a similar opinion too.


I get what you mean

as if it's a parent or sibling then it seems really premature and the fact that it seems so unexpected can make it even harder to deal with. My half-brother died when I was younger, but because I didn't really know him that well I found it really hard to know how to react to as it felt like a really close bloodbond despite us not being that close, so I didn't know if I'd be over/underreacting if that makes any sense


I do see what you mean

and it is inevitable really, but i still feel that losing someone you love, whoever it is, is still sad. But i suppose its less suprising, and often as you say can often be almost a relief.


Similar to WWW really...

My Grandad died when I was about 10, and even though he lived in the next village, I never really knew him, due to my Nan being a horrible woman indeed. So I was sad when he died, but I didn't feel real grief, but the sadness was probably because I never really knew him.

I can only remember seeing him two times, once when I was a kid, and once when I went round their house to get an encyclopaedia or something silly. Even when I was a kid he was just my mum's dad to me, I never knew him as grandad...


When my dad was murdered when i was 8

a part of me was seriously taken from me. I have never been the same i do not think. A big part of what a person needs to grow up was taken frome me and i'm a different person because of that. I cherish every memory i have of him and cannot remember a bad one with him either.


i know how you feel

you wonder how different you would have turned out with their influence. i would be a totally different guy if id grown up with my mum and i regret so much that i couldnt do that.
fuck
fds


yeah it's pretty shitty

not only have i suffered a loss i experienced the brutal death my dad had and i wander if i didn't go to the toilet would he have died? I went to a portaloo when he was attacked you see.


Im sure you have been told this many many times

but theres no way you could blame yourself

:(


I don't completely blame myself

but i just cannot help but think what would have happened..would i be dead?!? would he have saved my life? would we bothe be alive!!

It's better not thinking about it to be honest.

I want some cake.


Ive got some fruit cake my nan made me

id save you a piece.

The thing is as with everything things always could be different, you can just get lost forever wondering how things might be.


Yeah this is true.

I'm lucky to have been blessed with a step dad who loves me and a great mum and sister. It's all good.


haha i'ma a little bit crazy, but

this blonde girl here in my profile picture is the same girl as in the one where i was kissing her.


oh i see

well good work anyway


thanks.

it's not easy


:D


I know where you're coming from.

Or at least, I think I do.

My granddad died when I was seven, and at the time he and I were really close, as far as I remember. Exactly as you said, were he still alive now I doubt we'd be have half the connection. From the bits and pieces of my memories I can slot together and from what I've been told he was a wonderful man so, had he lived longer, I'm sure I would still have taken away the same lovely memories-and more. As I've got older I find I've drifted increasingly from the rest of my family, though, so sadly I feel as though that may too have happened with him.


I don't want to tempt fate here, but only one person in my family's died in the 25 years i've been a

That was my Gran, when i was twelve, and obviously it hurt a lot, but things get easier, and i appreciate that people saying such things at the time can seem pedantic, but it's true. You reach a point where instead of it upsetting you, the thought of them brings a wry smile to your face. When people do pass away you're essentially crying for yourself, which someone once tried explaining to me was pretty selfish, and only now can i appreciate that.


*alive, btw.


Im not sure if i agree with that last bit

surely you are crying because they are not only a loss to you, but to other people, and also that they wont get to live anymore? Although yes i can see it is a bit selfish


my grandmother

on my mum's side died when I was 15. She had lived with us for quite a while and I had a lot of affection for her, but when she died I felt sad for a while but I didn't experience what you'd call grief. I'm still not sure why. It's weird.