what do you think is more important in music, obviously there is room for both within any piece of music, and so there should be. But which do you consider to be the more important element?
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neither and both
in an intertwinable - impossible to pull apart and quantify-type slushy soup.
i love the way you spelt "intellect" incorrectly for lols
here, have some lols:
LOL
LOL
p.s. this wasn't meant meanly.
p.p.s. both equally - intellect expressed well equals fun, too
I like that intellect
is misspelt.
What do key changes come under?
Locksmith
i'd say intellect, but only because they are a musical tool
even though it is more often than not one that is used in poppier music
but with people like Nick Cave
and Jeffrey Lewis you don't have to choose
Depends on my mood- but usually fun.
If something's trying to be too 'fun' and wacky though, it just ends up like a horrible student night, a bunch of gurning imbeciles and snakebite that you want to grab a fire axe and be nasty.
counter point: Presidents of the USA
best gig i've been to this year, by a long way, and they are pretty fun, though a little bit intellectual in some ways.
this is the way i do it
by myself=intellect
with friends/random club people=fun
spot on.
although they do both bleed over into the other.
i would certainly appreciate having more similarly tasted people in my group of friends.
Agreed!
I was going to say I thought of them as quite anti-intellectual, but that's not quite what I mean.
It's obviously a willful intellectual decision to sing about small animals and sweet food rather than, y'know, serious stuff n' shit.
They covered Kick Out The Jams, and changed the lyrics to include more poodles and space travel. They're awesome.
Would also like to add
Urusei Yatsura as a similarly fun & intellectual band.
What do you mean be intellect?
Like, widdly-widdly-I-know-how-to-play-my-instruments-better-than-you intellect?
Or 'Oh, my lyrics comment on the world to day in a manner that reminds you of a musical Stephen Fry or someone else dead clever and wordy and stuff'?
if the second exists
can i haz link?
i think he means the first one
like the robots in muse?
no thanks, i'd prefer something with a heart
Mick from Prolapse
once said to me "Urusei are shite." Something I've taken with me ever since. Wackiness is a bit risky.
It's a bit like a film, if you're in the mood, if something's done really well its very rewarding, even if you've had to concentrate your brain and emotions over 2 or 3 hours. But then sometimes you want to just sit there and have a laugh. Though I'd probably more likely watch some shite Hollywood comedy and berate it than listen to someone 'fun' like Scouting for Girls for instance. It's not strictly relevant but they came into my head and their music's fucking disgusting.
As long as it's not trying too hard to be wacky or is "offensively chipper" fun is OK. It's not easy when you're a music cunt though, so in summary it would have to be on a case by case basis. Some rhyming that passes as intellectual, or bands that play songs with about fifty billion really complicated instrumental bits in per song, i find pretty fucking boring. Fun is good as long as it's genuine. People like Polyphonic spree gets a bit much, especially when it seems like they're faking it.
(I'm never getting that ten minutes back again.)
it's a tough question
i guess i mean music that's made to challenge musical boundaries, which doesn't have to be widdle widdle, as a lot of that doesn't really. but by fun i mean something that you can dance to or makes you instantly happy, like the thermals etc.
depends, innit
but at a push i'd go for intellect
The two can co-exist of course
but if you choose one it's obviously fun. You could argue music primarily exists as a form of entertainment and if it's not entertaining it's not really fulfilling it's function.
but
you could also argue that music exists solely as a conduit for artistic expression. Thus intellect is the more important
True
I suppose what I said applies more to music performed in public.