they piss me off. this obese whale at work complaining 24/7. oh its glandular! oh its not my diet its my metabolism. i just dont have the time or energy to exercise.
dont try to pretend to me you look after your body you lying bitch when you sit there stuffing your face with biscuits, sweets, crisps and cakes all day washing it down with endless pots of coffee and litres of coke a day.
go and die foul woman.
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really really fat people
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by inside-outside
you're fattist!
...
"no, she is!"
no,
i may be obese-ist
but only if the person in question is more fat than anything else
anything
an elephant?
a Renault Megane?
JUPITER?
as in so fat that it becomes their life
they cant do anything but sit and sweat and try get an operation on the nhs.
"im fat therefore i am" sort of thing
maybe she should neck
25 beans at an illegal nottingham rave.
Shrub.
She's not a student.
Non-students don't have those kind of parties.
yes we do...
but you can only go if you are between 5'8 and 5'10 for men.
and 5'3 and 5'7 for girls.
:D
heh
^^^^^Harsh but fair.
They bug me as well. Just stop eating so much crap you fat fucks! And exercise!
I'm scared of giant chubsters
especially ones who block the aisles at supermarkets. I think my nightmare is getting trapped inbetween two of them.
wow
such surliness and needless anger. you arent in six.by.seven are you?
I'm a couple of stone overweight.
This is possibly to do with my genes and a psychologic/physical side effect from a childhood operation. But mostly to do with the fact I enjoy food, eat lots of it and don't exercise as much as I should. By an uncurious coincidence the times I have exercised regularly and restricted what I eat I've lost the excess weight. But, hey, I look okay for the extra weight and can't be arsed to lose it right now.
I don't question for a second that some are genetically disposed to weigh more than others. But unquestionably
a) the less you eat, the less you will weigh.
b) the more you exercise, the fitter you will be.
c) the more you exercise, the better your metabolism functions.
hehe
sounds rather true
i didnt mnean to come off so so harsh as i did
this post really refers to this horrible woman, who i hate for reasons other than her fatness.
thing is the fact that she is so large is typical of her whole life, she fails at it basically!
I'm agreeing with you.
Harsh though you might be being, there's this tendency to allow people to make excuses for their weight and people then agree with them and don't pressurise them to change something that's endangering their health.
Obviously there are medical conditions that lead to a tendency to have problems keeping your weight down but even if you have a glandular problem or a thyroid problem or dabetes or medication with side effects, you'll still weigh less not stuffing yourself than you will if you stuff yourself.
I think there are extreme cases where people genuienly cannot control their weight but these are, I believe, extremely rare but people take these rare cases and use them to excuse themselves.
Ultimately if you're really, really fat then you need to lose weight for the sake of your health.
yup
One of the probelems there
being that pressurizing people into changing their lifestyle rarely gets them to change their lifestyle!
I think I've said this before on here, but there's a common misconception that the research findings which do suggest a surprisingly large genetic contribution to obesity somehow allows obese people to make excuses for themselves. (Of course, in line with what you said, it is really as simple as eating + exercise = weight loss. However the amount of both/either needed from person to person to maintain a regular low bodyweight seems to vary wildly.) The implication of this is that I think there would be rather more obese people out there who are leading fairly 'healthy' lifestyles than you might expect..
Obviously this is beside the point a little; there are always going to be people who are complaining for the sake of complaining. I don't think there's any value to be had in creating this stereotype of the lazy fat person though, when evidence suggests that it's a sketchy picture at best.
And I, er, hate to say this for sounding like a nobend; but even at a couple of stone overweight you should be thinking about losing a little for the sake of your health!
I felt like a dick even typing that. Sorry..
Argh
my guilt has overfloweth. I honestly only said that as I'm kinda obliged to in an ethical context and all. Ulp.
"I don't think there's any value to be had in creating this stereotype of the lazy fat person though
You've not been to south wales then ?
Of course I should lose weight.
That was precisely my point i.e. that I know I should and I don't (and I would lose weight if I did) so ultimately I and no-one else am responsible for my body weight.
Ultimately, even though you are right that the amount of good/exercise needed to maintain a healthy weight does vary wildly (and certainly I find it harder to keep my weight down than others I know), it doesn't change the fact that if you notice the amount you consume is making you weigh more than is healthy then you know it is too much for you yourself and should realise that to weigh less you'd need to cut down. It might not be fair that others can eat more and not weigh as much but nonetheless the decision of whether to eat as much as they do and weigh a lot or not eat as much as they do and lose weight is your decision and you have to take responsibility for that.
It's not that I want to perpetuate the myth of fat, lazy people. I don't believe that and I know it is hard to lose weight but I very strongly believe that you have to take responsibility for as much as about yourself as you can in life and as soon as you start to say "it's not me whose responsible for this" you start to give away control of your life to other factors. And that's not a healthy thing to do physically or psychologically.
, though;
there seems to be a lot of talk of how easy it is to lose weight ('just stop eating and do some exercise'); if it's so easy, and so simple, then why doesn't everyone do it?
My stock answer to this is that the 'weight epidemic' (which is part scaremongering, part worrying fact) is caused by the shifting of the 'default lifestyles' of people in this country. The calorie contents of food (as well as portion sizes) in this country have gone through the roof; while this doesn't mean that people have had to eat accordingly, the path-of-least-resistance is now the one that takes you straight to fattytown.
And, I mean, we're kinda arguing at cross-purposes here; I fully acknowledge that the only route, psychologically, that's going to get anyone to take action regarding their own weight is responsibility, self-efficacy and action. What I'm not keen on is other people painting overweight individuals as innately weak and driven by excuses; and you're one of very few posters in this thread who seem to be able to talk eloquently about the subject without insulting vast swathes of people.
Again, that wasn't the place for me to go giving advice, so apologies once more. I reckon I might make a fitness thread!
I completely agree with your second paragraph.
I think one of the big problems I tend to find is that it is genuinely hard to eat healthily (and especially to keep below recomemnded salt amount incidentally). Even if you manage it at home, going out and finidng healthy options is hard. Even a salad in a restaurant is probably gonna, as standard, be plastered in fatty dressings while it's even harder to find healthy takeaway food. Almost all non-alcoholic drinks in bars (bar water and you'd get frowned upon if you orderd tap water all night) are loaded with sugar. Meanwhile more and more devices are invented to make our lives easier to a point where we barely burn any calories in daily life. And we're pushed to work longer hours thus making it difficult to schedule time for exercise in the working week.
So absolutely I agree that eating less and exercising more is much more difficult than it should be, and there is a major need to change things so the unhealthy way isn't the default way. But, despite all this and hard though it is, eating less and exercising more is the only realistic way to weight loss.
Christ aye,
the salt thing. I think one problem is that as supermarkets (etc) are being pressured to lower calorie contents (and in the full knowledge that this is now the first thing people look at) they're nudging up the salt to keep it palatable. Tesco's Healthy Living stuff is, I find, saltier than a longshoreman's love liquid.
One.. would imagine.
Erm, yes, I'm in agreement with your last point too, at least on an individual level. The practicalities of actually getting people to do it (with a mind to keeping the NHS on its feet for the forseeable future) is a whole other deal. I'm trying to talk a family member through a weight loss programme at the moment, and it's hard to argue with legitimate excuses (a sick 2 year old fr'instance). On a population level, I'm starting to feel like largescale interventions are the way forward: pedestrian friendly city centres, strict food content legislation, etc. There's a lot of opposition out there to this kind of stuff, though, so perhaps that makes me sound like a Nazi.
I think Julian Le Grand makes very good suggestions:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/unveiled-radical-prescription-for-our-health-crisis-397618.html - scroll down to the bottom for just the suggestions (although I get the sense you might be familiar with this anyway)
They're extreme to be sure but maybe extreme is what's needed and they preserve "choice" whilst putting the emphasis on the healthy option.
I'd heard the suggestions..
but not read LeGrande's take on their philosopy. Very interesting, ta.
Funny that he talks about 'libertarian paternalism' though; I went to a talk the other day about side-stepping the idea of a nanny state through a 'stewardship state.' Which is pretty much the same idea!
It's a real minefield: he's got a point when he says that painting it as 'too big a problem' isn't helpful. That's not the message we want to be sending out. But then again as far as policymakers go, I think that painting it as a result of the last, say 10, 15 years of change could be useful; if it only took that long to change it one way, it shouldn't take too long to change it back.
Watch out
You'll make prole cry.
yeah
not like thems perfect students!11!
hehe
no, but i do sit next to the most obnoxious obese thing i have ever had the displeasure of meeting.
this woman, oh my god. she is beyond description. she manages to fail or score low in every area humans could be tested on!!
I bet you push her close though
i wish!
im polite and kind when im not ranting on this board!!
Punctuation
Grammar
Any others?
General Pedantry?
yes SAH!
Sssh
You could get court-marshalled for that pronounciation!
MARTIALLED
YOU GOT THE JOKE
10 POINTS
YOU ARE A JOKE
-10 POINTS
Thats some pretty poor DanielKelly bashing
Having one of those days?
Yep, every day.
:D
Where is Alex-in-Ciderland?
Shouldn't he have made a poultry related pun by now?
He chickened out.
What a turkey!
And here I am drawing attention to it
I feel like such a tit
Keep a-breast of the situation
I love the 'I have thyroid problems' excuse
and then the 3rd bag of crisp is opened.
I agree with you though, it's horrid!
I just don't know how anyone could let themselves get that way.
^ this
one of the women i work with is really sweet and kind and is a perfectly acceptable weight for a woman in her late 50s. but she's always watching what she eats because she easily gain weight. today, someone brought in carrot cake and this lady declined a piece because she'd had birthday cake on sunday.
but there's another woman i work with who has to have seat specially reinforced for her fat arse who has had two massive slices of the cake already. she takes inbetween bites of the cake to munch down on a tin of roses she keeps locked in her desk drawer. then she complains about the "distance" of the photocopier when she has to roll over to it, even though it's two desks over. fat cow. i hope she falls over and can't get back up again.
'roll over to it'
:D
she doesn't leave crumbs in the photocopier does she?
wouldn't they embaressment of having a special chair kind of maybe.. like... make you think about trying to claw some dignity back?
you'd think
she sat on a normal chair and it just collapsed. she blamed it on "lazy engineering". i mean, WTF!?!?!?!?!?
i know its funny
but isnt it a realy bit fucking harsh?
nah
<3 fatties
'Tin of roses locked in the drawer'
Haha genius. Is she afraid someone is going to steal her stash!
I bet she has chocolates hidden all around the office (Like an alcoholic) except hers are all hidden within arm's length.
Haha
I'm imagining a biscuit rammed into the disk drive of her computer.
haha
sounds familiar!
i can see the bint in the corner now with beads of sweat trickling down into the puddle on the floor. (because she had to go to the vending machine)
and then she'd complain...
that the heating is on too high and will turn on the aircon. Thus causing everyone around her to freeze to death.
funny you should say that!
the cunting mannity has her fan blasting her 24/7, despite the aircon being on frosty anyway. she must be hot tho, wearing about 10 pigs worth of blubber over her body
'the cunting mannity'
:D
Amazing!
^
serious fattist
Cunting mannity
This is the greatest thing I've ever read. Ever.
but don't you think
that at some point, people just give up and start thinking "fuck this, i'm a fat bastard anyway, might as well just eat and get some pleasure from that at least"
Obviously they do.
But if they do that then they've got to take responsibility for that decision.
i suppose
but there are some pretty complex psychological matters behind those things that need to be accounted for.
I've thought of way she can be redeemed?
Does she wear a moo-moo? Moo-moos are brilliant
Importantly this thread has reminded me
someone's left us all some biscuits in the kitchen upstairs.
I'm gonna go and get some.
no don't!
you may become morbidly obese and a disgrace to humanity! apparently.
I know. But biscuits!
Hey I bet if a skinny skeleton of a girl walked in...
You would be just as critical.
But for some reason if you're obese you expect people to listen to you go on about how hard the world is - all whilst chomping down on your Big Mac and gulping your jumbo coke.
So far I've been unable to motivate myself to climb two flights of stairs to the kitchen.
I'll send the winch over
*e
Update:
I might go any minute now...
Took me 39 minutes to motivate myself.
I see how my lack of exercise could be a problem.
And how was the biscuits?
Worth 2 flights of stairs?
*were
My grammar today is shocking!
They were okay.
Probably just about worth the trek.
Did you take some for the trip back?
I used to work at a place that would have a constant supply of penguins in the kitchen (the biscuit not the animal)
They were the death of me!
I took 'em back with me and ate them with a cup of tea
so they were worth two journeys if you count down as separate.
I don't really mind people who're overweight...
but the ones who moan about it when blatantly doing nothing to combat it are cunts.
I'm not skinny
and I don't think everyone should be...
but unless you're really tall and/or have big muscles or massive tits, if you have to shop at Evans or wherever
STOP FUCKING EATING SO MUCH!
^ BA DA BING!
agreed. And whilst they're at it they should go running once or twice a week. I'm sure they have plenty time to eat microwave dinners whilst watching TV from 6pm - 11pm, therefore they have time to run for 30 mins