according to the Beeb.
Thoughts?
- Reviews: * Late Of The Pier - Fantasy Black Channel
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- Features: * Sub Pop 20: the DiS review
- Features: * Discography reassessed: Bright Eyes in perspective
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- Features: * Latitude 2008: DiS's festival picks
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- * Sparklehorse, Daniel Johnston @ Dublin Whelan's, 28/07
- * DiScover Sheffield @ Sheffield The Harley, 28/07
- * Club Fandango @ London Camden Dublin Castle, 29/07
- * A Sunny Day In Glasgow @ Dublin Whelan's, 30/07
- * Mirror! Mirror!, Dananananaykroyd @ Edinburgh Cabaret Voltaire, 30/07
- * Mudhoney @ London Kentish Town Forum, 31/07
- * A Sunny Day In Glasgow @ Glasgow Nice N Sleazy's, 31/07
- * A Sunny Day In Glasgow @ Leeds Upstairs at the Library, 1/08
- * The Chiara L's, Cuckoo's Nest, Real Feal, Docksud @ London The Wilmington, 1/08
- * Club AC30 @ London The Luminaire, 2/08
- * Ratatat @ Glasgow The Captain's Rest, 2/08
- * Brainlove Alldayer @ Leeds Brudenell Social Club, 2/08
- * The Mae Shi, Dananananaykroyd @ London Old Blue Last, 4/08
- * Jonquil, Left With Pictures, Gossamer Albatross @ London The Macbeth, 4/08
- * Catherine Anne Davies @ London Bush Hall, 7/08
Yay!
the telegraph will be happy too
:/
meh
Predictable.
I'm kinda glad. I'd have voted for the Greens or Paddick myself, but i look forward to Boris. He's a genius in the body of a fifty year old German dad.
i'm racking my brain
i don't seem to have an opinion
:D
*sits back and enjoys the show*
The news will become like a permanent Harry Enfield show.
Excellent.
^ first sensible opinion to have come out of this
(Boris's own opinions excluded)
im thinking more benny hill than harry enfield
still it will be funny, i hope he gets to talk lots on the telly. As mayor would he get to make an opening welcome speech at the olympics? ('foreign johnnies throwing sticks' looms)
meh
It doesn't say that does it?
It says he's a head on first preference votes with 50% counted.
I mean the signs are that he will win but to say that the BBC are saying he's won it (unless I'm missing something) aren't really true...
.
both previous elections were won on second preferences, so i don't think the beeb's announcement means a great deal yet. especially since that lead is only on 50% of the votes counted.
Well exactly.
And my suspicion is that a lot of people will have put Lib-Dems/Greens/Left List first and Ken second whereas I reckon the bulk off those who wanted Livingstone out will have put Boris Johnson first.
I could be wrong on this but my belief has been that Boris will beat Ken on first preferences but Ken will just edge it once second preferences are counted. The results so far don't sway my view on that.
UPDATE: My view now swayed.
it was a 'Latest:'
thing on the ticker tape a minute ago, it didn't have a full article yet
Ah, there's a reference here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7378792.stm
The Evening Standard claims Boris will win before second prefs come into play. That would be a surprise but I guess they've got a source...
.
i doubt the evening standard have a source! they've been launching a hate campaign against ken livingstone for weeks/months/years
This is true but papers tend not to say things that'll make them look stupid
and there's no benefit in them claiming Boris has won if he hasn't. I mean pre-election there would have been but the vote's been counted so nothing they say can make any difference...
I mean they might be wrong of course but I'm guessing they've got some reason for their belief (even if it later proves wrong)
.
perhaps. i don't trust the evening standard though. it's a terrible terrible 'newspaper'
I don't either really.
And the fact the BBC quote them in their claim suggests the BBC don't either. But nonetheless I accept the possibility they may know something I don't...
after hearing gilligan on news24
i wouldn't be surprised if they were just saying it to try and bury ken some more
.
hm, i am still sceptical. it's a complete tory polemic. also i would think at this stage it's probably pretty hard to tell anything still, given that they've pushed the result announcement back to midnight already
.
though partly sceptical simply because i don't want it to be true :p
but he knows greek and latin
this makes him better at running things than anyone else
I want to say
zinoviev letter but it was too late when everyone realised then too.
'papers tend not to say things
that'll make them look stupid'.
um, the sun, some kind of liverpool related footballing-death-blame issue?
i'm concerned about what this will mean for
public transport and social housing in particular. given he has no polices as yet, i don't know what his plans are! his anti-high rise stance doesn't bode well for the latter, and his silly call for the return of routemasters indicates he doesn't have a meaningful vision for the former
can i use this thread to enjoy this again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA
I do love that
and him when he does stuff like that.
The youtube comments are particularly good (and depressing) as usual:
"BORIS JOHNSON... wht a elgend.. a politician i like.. at last (y)
what away to get in2 the hearts of the people.. HAHA"
"He is awesome lo true nutter he got my vote"
"Legend, he got my vote."
one of his key policies re: housing
is removing the 50% affordable quota in new developments. brilliant!
no fucking comment
:)
i blame
have i got news for you
this is really depressing
I think this group explains why rather well:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12150334481
god help us
?
the group you've linked
provides a multitude of reasons why boris will be bad for london. god help us now he's mayor!
right
yes. I thought you meant you didn't agree with the group, or something.
Anyway, he's not quite mayor yet.
It's not confirmed yet!
Although now looks inevitable.
Argh. I honestly can't see how even Conservatives think he's a good choice beyond just wanting to spite Livingstone.
If he carries out his manifesto to the letter, it's nothing like how I think London needs to be governed. More likely is he'll cock it up like every other job he's had and end up undoing all the good work that's happened in the past decade.
Either way I'm deeply, deeply disappointed.
London
I love you, but you're bringing me down.
I despair.
THE CITY IS FUCKED
Let's all move to Devon
...
I'm really glad Livingstone is going. Having worked within a consultancy context to the GLA for the last six months, it's pretty clear the whole place needs a shakeup and some change.
I don't think Boris will do any harm provided he surrounds himself with good people.
hopefully tory central office will keep him on a short leash
His office is going to be packed to the rafters with Tory-approved advisors.
Devon doesn't want you........
it's all tory/lib dem.
for most of us it isn't an anti-tory thing
it's because we don't think boris is capable of running the city well, and we don't regard his policies - the few there are - as beneficial to our city
Reading between the lines
Ken seems to be doing better than expected at the start of the count. But not well enough. Estimates show the turnout was far higher in the outer constituencies, which will probably be enough to drag Boris across the line when it's this close.
So once again elections are being won and lost due to the Tories being better at mobilising support. Labour voters = inherently lazy?
Well the working class is generally quite lazy
so it would make sense.
Yeah
Damn them and their working laziness
please be joking ^
it's true.
The working classes are pretty much all like Shannon Matthews' mum.
Innit
If they weren't so lazy, they'd all be running their own multi-million pound companies.
GENERALLY
Working class people are less likely to vote than middle class people.
Unfortunately this means that the votes of the ignorant middle classes will decide who wins, rather than those of the ignorant working class..
Fucking love democracy.
Polling stations in:
Asda, William Hill and Wetherspoons.
If the Mohammed* won't go to the mountain.....
*Or Kyle/Nikki/Tyler/Destiny-Marie, etc etc
YES!
:D
It's not ideal
But my god do I hate Ken Livingston, so to be honest I'd say he's the lesser of two evils. Although that's quite a depressing state of affairs isn't it.
I really hope Boris doesn't ban drinking on public transport
I like the occasional can of cider on the tube / bus. It seems slightly draconian to penalise the many civilised drinkers due to the anti-social actions of the minority.
oh fuck.
So has anyone started to stockpile canned food and medical supplies yet?!
i've got the whole of London's supply of
tins of baked beans with sausages in
should keep me going for a while
actually I seriously have started to stockpile
and id advise you to do too.
Sainsburies have value pasta at 19p per 500g, curry sauce at 5p, yes 5p per biggish jar (tastes like chip shop curry) value veg stock cubes 19p per 10 pack, instant noodles at 9p, value rice 49p per kilo. tins beans 20p tins sweetcorn 15p they also have tins of tinned fruit in fruit juice at about 25p as do tescos.
Other shops do various cheap large bags of pulses. The trick is to select dried pulses that need the least boiling time like lentils or yellow split peas (you gotta think of the energy you will have available to cook with.
I have enough firewood to get me through next winter for heating, but I need more for cooking now.
I have 2000 candles and will be stockpiling twine, superglue, plastic bags and sheet and lighters
I still need more of all these, luckily these are all cheap.
My one remaining item that i cant seem to find is a wind up mp3 playa.....if the apocalypse comes I want to be able to listen to the cocteau twins still
or 'where is my mind'
by the pixies
oh tvp too
WTF, he's an idiot.
This is like, the worst news I've heard all day. He just comes across as an incompetent buffoon. I know people consider him to be a 'legend', but I thought it was all ironic. I didn't realise that people actually took him seriously...
If Boris wins
he will ruin everything. And that's pretty much all there is to it.
Some actual numbers at last:
Apparently Boris has 46%, Ken 40% of first preferences from the 7 out of 14 constituencies that have declared so far.
Paddick has 9%, so it's in theory all to play for with second preferences. But I think 6% is just too big a margin to make up really. Ken would probably need 90% of those Paddick second prefs to win and that's not gonna happen.
Now 42% to 40%
from 9 of 14! It's gonna be close!
this just in: UKIP IS DEID
a few of the London Assembly results, right
Bexley and Bromley: Mike Greenhough (UKIP) 8,021 (4.01%, -12.79%)
Brent and Harrow: Sunita Webb (UKIP) 3,021 (1.95%, -4.18%)
City and East: Mick McGough (UKIP) 3,078 (1.68%, -12.07%)
Enfield and Haringey: Brian Hall (UKIP) 4,682 (2.96%, -6.21%)
etc etc, and so on and so forth
even if Boris wins, this is one thing i can cling to with a modicum of "oh, that's good"
This is getting really tense
Aside from all the Boris declarations, Ken is not out fo the running yet. At least that is how I understand it.
I've made my anti-Boris sentiments clear on loads of other threads
but let's face the facts, the city will turn to shit but at least he'll give us some entertainment. MEH.
Tense indeed
One thing's for certain: barring freak results from here on, the Standard was wrong - this will go to second prefs. And the gap is currently 4% with Paddick on 10% - *conceivably* close enough to be made up.
Yes
I had the feeling that it would not be purely due to the first results. If it does, and it looks likely, to go to the alternative vote, which candidate will do better?
Paddick > Livingstone > Johnson?
I think Ken stands to do best out of the second prefs
but now some sources are saying that they're expecting the gap to be 8% when the remaining 4 have declared, which would be far too much to make up... so I don't know what to think :/
How do second preferences work
I don't remember and I did politics and studied voting at uni. Ah.
Bit of a lazy explanation
Bottom candidate's pile of first votes get reallocated according to the second choices. This keeps happening in ascending order until a candidate reaches the magic number - 50%.
Basically
if someone wins over 50% of first prefs - they win.
If no-one achieves that, then the top two have all their second prefs added to their first prefs total. Whoever has the most after that wins.
Also - the gap's 5% now with only 3 to declare. It's looking pretty comfortable for Boris - almost 100,000 votes ahead apparently...
It's over
:o(
Boris Johnson
You couldn't make it up.
man oh man.
Looks like it's official
BBC breaking news - Boris to be unveiled anytime in the next 2, 3, 4 , 10 or 20 minutes
it's happening
London is jumping the shark
6% gap after first prefs then
That's a safe enough margin. Politics is jumping the shark, never mind London...
prepare for the headlines then
surprised he didn't use this vid in his campaign!
http://juristnoncalculus.blogspot.com/
christ on a bike
he did actually win.
sadface.jpg
gladI'malongwayfromourgloriouscapital.mp3
oh jesus fuck no
i should imagine that most of his votes came from wacky students.
i'm not buying into the whole "he's a foppish idiot" thing, but he's basically a classic tory. bye bye congestion charge, bye bye public transport expansion, hello higher ticket prices.
WHAT
see my thread jag.
My only hope is that
it'll turn out like the Simpsons episode where Homer is elected Sanitation Commissioner and they'll ask Ken back but he'll refuse and then walk off while they play that music. And then they'll have to move London 5 miles down the road.