Only behind sex offenders and people who post new topics on the same subjects as the dirtiest coonts on earth.

is the staggering complacency of the Labour government. You shaft people on low-to-middle incomes and you get scapegoats, unfortunately, and here, those scapegoats are immigrants. It's media-fuelled, it's lazy, it's racist, it's horrible, but it's becoming a reality.

Labour can fuck off, but so can the BNP. Where the fuck is the REAL, PROPER, ANGRY, UNIONISED, STRIKING, LET'S-FUCK-THINGS-UP left when you need it?

"Allah Almighty is just; through his infinite wisdom he has given the weak a weapon the strong do not have and that is their ability to turn their bodies into bombs as Palestinians do".

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You let one of this lot in and elected Boris. Hope you're all pleased.

are tired of the views/ways of the Labour Party and Conservative Party. some people think that immigration has become a problem that neither of the two parties above will deal with.

i am not a member of the BNP, as whilst sharing some of their views i find others to be way outside of the spectrum of my beliefs, but comments such as "what the shitting hell is the matter with people" aren't worth shit.

people seem to have a reluctance to actually consider BNP's views, or correctly understand them, instead just dismissing them and blindly shouting "RACIST".

No-one who has any knowledge of the BNP's past record when elected to office in London will be remotely bothered by this. Not least because occupying one seat on a council where everyone else is completely hostile to you doesn't mean much at all.

I suggest you think about what's really bothering you, and take a nice BM.

I've been kinda expecting this to happen really. And I fully expect it to continue to happen if the two main parties remain more obsessed with fighting a battle over the middle classes and the central ground rather than representing demographics that used to make up their core (or at least a hefty part of their support). I imagine the people who've voted for the BNP are those that feel utterly unrepresented in this brave new democracy.

And of course there's the fact that immigration and Europe have seemingly become dirty words in modern politics. Both parties have favoured other policies (well, have sounded about it rather than presenting them as set-in-stone policies), like health or policing, over immigration; and the Tories won't touch Europe with a bargepole in fear of splitting their party and support, whilst New Labour seemingly say nothing on the subject and do their own thing regardless.

And it's not necessarily a case of the parties being too similar, I think the amount of baiting and bollocks on the board last night showed how divisive the parties are, but they've moved away from demographics that no longer feel represented.

It's a by-product of this image-driven, policy-light politics that has increasingly come to dominate contemporary politics. Those that are either militant enough or focused enough on one policy will be prepared to vote for smaller parties that don't really have a chance of getting into power as there seemingly isn't enough in the larger parties for them - whatever the accuracy of this view.

Anyway, at the moment it doesn't really mean much, as has already being pointed out above. They're shit in office and are going to be buried by opposition. But they have their foot in the door now...

come to vote, unless your going to vote BNP, in which case fuck off..."

Yes, ideological disenfranchisement and voter intimidation is clearly the way forward. Rofl

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There's plenty of bigotted pricks around and some more that don't like to admit it.

I'm sure there's plenty that voted BNP when confronted with the privacy of a booth.

Scum bags none the less.

as much as i do not in any way support the BNP, suggesting that they should be 'banned' is just mega hypocritical. imagine if the BNP were in power, and they were banning left-wingers from mayoral elections/setting up stalls at university, or calling everyone ignorant pricks for supporting the left wing. Wouldn't that make some people on the margins angry? Wouldn't it make it seem like this party were the only ones left who could actually make a considerable difference.
It's ridiculous, and it is a curtail on free speech to suggest banning the BNP and its supporters.
There's a bit more to the BNP's policies than being 'a bunch of racists' (although it seems many of the core members are)
I think the people that are voting for them don't necessarily agree with everything they stand for, they just want something to change, they want the current government to realise that there are issues that aren't being dealt with, and that's why people vote BNP. Voting BNP may seem extreme, but when labour and conservative don't seem to be doing anything other than placidly getting on with things, then people begin to get frustrated.

What the government have to work on, rather than 'banning the racist cunts' and making them and the people who vote for them feel more angry and sidelined, is let people realise that what the BNP stand for won't change anything for the good.

So even if they are a bunch of racist, reactionary, emotionally-manipulative wankers (according to us), banning them won't solve anything, and just proves that "we" are no better than "them".

they are gonna do nothing with ONE whole seat...

voting BNP seems to be a protest against the major parties ignoring 'real working people'.

The BNP are using this disenchantment with mainstream politics to feed on peoples insecurities by creating scapegoats - foreigners, the other. "You're worrys are being ignored because these *different* people are being treated well".
It creates division where there often was none, or exacerbates little niggles into big social problems. Groups and parties like this are working towards turning their prejudices into self-fulfilling prophecies. I know thats what they've tried whenever they've turned up (usually from out of town) in places I've been living.

One of biggest problems however is that mainstream politics refuses to engage with them. I once saw Alan Duncan say that he believed that he could easily defeat any BNP candidate in a debate over ideas, which is fine - I'm pretty positive that this is exactly the case.
But he won't, because as far as the BNP is concerned the mainstream closes it's eyes, puts it's fingers in it's ears and starts singing 'lalalalalalalaa'.

By refusing to bring the BNP into the marketplace of ideas and debate the major political parties are helping to add weight to it's arguments. The BNP often say the mainstream parties are scared to face them because they are right and the big parties are afraid of admitting this, and there is no one out there really laying down the arguments which prove them wrong.
And there is a perception that there is no one out there who is really interested in what is happening in the lives and with the concerns of the 'working classes'.

If people want to help get rid of the likes of the BNP then the way to do it is to really engage with those who feel so left out and left behind by politics and to tackle their ideology of division head on with the full force of reasoned thought out political debate and ideas.