According to the independent advisory body. They reckon even at the new stronger levels it's nowhere near as dodgy as the other Class B drugs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7386889.stm
Of course, the Government will go ahead and raise it anyway like the good bunch of neo-Tories they are. *sigh*
Oh, because the latest report claims this
we should all grow our hair long, wear tie-dye t-shirts and kiss trees all day long, should we?
I think most people are aware that most cannabis isn't dangerous. But the problem is that most dealers won't mind mixing it with dangerous shit to pad out how much they have and that there are strains of cannabis that ARE dangerous.
Which is all besides the point when you consider the up-grade is born out of a desire to seem tough on all drugs and crime, especially considering the severe financial and social disadvantage that people both at home and abroad find themselves in because of the drugs trade.
Oh, but any excuse to slag off Tories, eh Theo? ;)
"...any excuse to slag off the tories.."
Yeah, why not? Theres a lot of them about.
You aren't Theo!
Well surely it's only a 'slag' if you agree with me
and you don't so surely you'd agree that it's a good thing?
Fact is that the Tories have always gone for a 'hard line with drugs' approach because it's a necessary part of being 'conservatives'.
Labour policies are based on the golden question: WWTTD? :D
I agree that it probably won't yield any results
but I do understand why people would think there are merits to an upgrade and don't place much faith in any report like the one linked.
Also, I won't lecture you about the difference between
Conservatives and conservatives, as I'm sure that deep down you know and wouldn't appreciate it anyway! :P
Yeah there's a difference.
However, when it comes to drug laws and laws on things like homosexuality, etc. the Tory party recognises its grass roots and never tries to antagonise them.
Are you seriously trying to tell me the Tories have often shown a liberal attitude to the legalisation of drugs?
Nope.
Stop trying to be so contrary and argumentative, you smug bastard!
Nope.
Stop trying to be so contrary and argumentative, you smug bastard!
WHAT WOULD THE TWATS DO?
Don't rubbish the Tory party like that
...
all that
and it smells funny, innit
The government are Labour
he was referring to the current government.
The clue is in the words "the Government".
Aside from making museums free,
this is probably the best thing the Labour Government have ever done.
Cannabis is a vile little drug, and the less of it I see (or indeed smell) around, the better.
but making it a class b will not get rid of it
it will just mean that infrequent users like myself face a longer sentence in jail for using a herb that is one of the most sterdy and easy to grow plants on Earth.
Oh well.
Drug users/dealers go to jail for longer?! Oh no! What will society once these upstanding citizens have been excluded?!
run out of jail space for REAL criminals
and spend far more money on policing out of public money for but two points.
it's not really about upstanding citizens, it's about double standards within the narcotics legislation. laws are here for a reason, but in some instances they do more harm than good, and i firmly believe that this is one of them
so don't infrequently use it
but that takes away my right as an inhabitant on earth
i disagree with the drugs trade, but that's only there in such an existence due to the illegalities of drugs.
i'm not going to talk about stronger drugs right now, but cannabis is a prevalent natural herb found throughout the world. it was originally made illegal because it was a 'black' or 'Hispanic' drug, and it was infecting white America. Such times and ways of thinking have long passed.
Haha what a load of silly nonsense
Thats the stupidest thing I have heard today. Still its only early.
Haha what a load of silly nonsense
Thats the daftest thing I have heard all day.
Still its only early.
why are you so anti-drug
it makes you sound like a right goody goody
I'm not anti-drug
they were talking about this on the news this morning
they had a man complaining about it. he had shaggy hair, a shaggy beard, was wearing a shirt with the cannabis emblem on and sat on a sofa that had the cannabis emblem all over it.
after 20 seconds or so of him blithering away, one of those little name/profession boxes popped up onscreen. it read:
<NAME>
Cannabis User
clap.
clap.
clap.
also he was about 60 and dressed in a way even a wacky stoner student would think a bit much.
:)
If theres one thing I cant stand,its smoking/stoner paraphernalia...Its all ridiculous
TAKE ME TO YOUR DEALER
the problems we have in notts
are getting worse, its the quantity of sand and crushed glass in it. its ridiculous really, cos after grinding stuff up you often have a layer of what looks like thc crystals, bhut on closer inspection it turns out to be tiny shard of glass, which cut your lungs and throat to shit
i think this is a radiculous U-turn by a failed government
there are big problems with the dsrugs trade i agree, but all that making something more dangerous to trade is going to do is mean that the market gets wamped with more dodgy green, and naive smokers will inhale it, probably much to the risk of their health. GOD ONE GOVERNMENT.
good or bad it's still a risk
to your health
life is a health risk baby
ride the spiral
there are risks from any drug
but the "more illegal" it becomes, the more difficult it becomes to get hold of. as a result people start mixing things like silica gel, sand or glass to the mix and those who do not check what they are smoking are doing even more harm.
i see absolutely no reason at all why it should not be legal to smoke. it's a natural product that grows far more readilly than tabacco or many kitchen herbs, and has been used for hundreds of years.
it's my understanding
that it's very difficult to grow
because it's illegal
it grows naturally accross the world. heck the the none narcotic male form of the plant is even grown in fields in britain for material use.
depends
A mate of mine (16 at the time used 3 energy saver bulbs) it did take about 3 months though, and he kept picking off the little buds near the bottom until one day the head collapsed under it's on weight in turn breaking the stem!
While I'm not necessarily pro-demonising
cannabis users (I'm partial every now and then), it would seem that between 70% and 80% of cannabis smoked in this country is the more dangerous and addictive skunk and a great deal of it is already mixed with shit.
it is because of the law that that veriety of cannabis is forced on users.
if it was leghal to grow your own in your back garden, you'd get a standard and in my opinion much nicer cleaner smoke, which would not be factory engineered to the extreme that the press seems to be advertising.
I would much prefer dealers and suppliers
to be subject to punishment, seeing as the only real problem I have with drug-use is that it funds a whole host of other quite naughty things.
I'm just not sure I could think of a better way of going about things.
i agree about the black market drug trade
having said that, it also funds countries like morocco, who gain a hefty percentage of unofficial GDP from cannabis, and they need that money to boost their ways of living so as not to rely on foreign input, especially given that they are being engulfed by the sahara due to what most scientists will agree is global warming caused more by us than them. due to the fact that cannabis is a relatively low risk drug, with medical and recreational use, it would make more sense not to push all of this money into illegal trading, and instead regulate it. (this argument needs a lot of working n i know, but can you see my general point?)
as i've said before it' is very easy to grow, any small amount of research will tell you that, so i think it would be easy to allow those who want it for cheap to grow their own, and then purchase official, and taxed cannabis from morocco and other such places. it would be cheaper for the users, there would be no need to waste police time and the governemt could gain further taxs
I can see that point yes
Ultimately I'd rather a government had the balls to quit splitting hairs and either crack down on it properly or legaslise and regulate it
i would support legalisation wholeheartedly
if telling stories about 'this one time when you were soooo stoned' became punishable by death
Fiddling with the Rizlas whilst Rome burns.........
one of the last desperate acts by a discredited and dying government.
If they think this is going to get the Daily Mail on side they truly have lost all sense of reality.
Additionally, NEWSFLASH: The governing party is LABOUR.
Newsflash: Only you seem to be having trouble remembering that.
Still, a name is only a name. They still follow Tory party policies as often as they can. It's one of the reasons they've won the last three elections.
I'm a left-winger so consequently I don't vote for Labour.