Dive
Sliver
Stain
Been A Son
Turnaround
Molly's Lips
Son Of A Gun
(New Wave) Polly
Beeswax
Downer
Mexican Seafood
Hairspray Queen
Aero Zeppelin
Big Long Now
Aneurysm
Mexican Seafood is the only track that might gaff a bit.
Kurt's most amazing vocals and guitar in the entire Nirvana Oeuvre and still this record has been a bastard orphan since day one.
allthough the artwork is Kurt's very own- it's lame.
My favourite Nirvana album. Fact.
You'll get a load of nonces along in a minute who will insist that it's 'shit' but, like, not as bad as Nevermind which is 'really shit' even though they were about 2 when it was released and so cannot begin to imagine how exciting it seemed at the time.
bless you Alex
: )
in utero is their best album you bellend
:P
^this
BUT, 'Incesticide' is still killer, 'Aneurysm' is the second best song they ever wrote and some other tracks here are brilliantly mental.
I saw the thread title and thought 'nah'
but looking at the tracklist you may be right
It's definitely not
'shit' by any means but I see it as an interesting collection of trivialities and obscura rather than part of the Nirvana canon. (Side one, for those who remember the tape cassette era, is especially good).
Kurt's magum opus is so clearly In Utero. The album is a masterwork.
Kurt was basketcase during In Utero
get out that cassette, put it on side two and get the clogs out of your ears- and brain.
ain't nothing trivial about incesticide and it's only obsure cause people forgot it or never noticed it in the first place.
you obviously have some holes in you nirvana experience.
Look mate
you can be obnoxiously condescending if you want (and that was), but a b-sides and rarities album that totally lacks coherence and is cobbled together over a number of years of recording is never going to be able to stand up to the rest of the output.
sorry, but I have to kick u in the balls now
Where are these guide lines that say coherence and timeframe are the parameter for excellence?
u still got holes and I'll pray for u
oh sick burn
It was Kurt's fav too
.
Aneurysm
is more powerful than anything on Nevermind. and Sliver is the most pop thing they ever did, i think
Incesticide is definitely the best ^5
oh god, Son of a Gun is pop-as-fuck too
i love this album
don't forget "been a son" and "molly's lipsss"!
: 0
of course!
Aneurysm
Is just about the best thing they recorded.
I always think Insesticide seems a bit more... fun - if that isn't too stupid a word - than their other albums in many ways but I suppose that is often the case on a b-sides/rarities album. I still *heart* In Utero the most though.
Joe - www.anewbandaday.com
I further the motion
it kicks like a bastard.
I have this on 12"
I'm gona dig it out tomorow it rocks. Is it a b-side colection? or am I well wrong?
ah yes
raraties collection I found out myself.
I remember when it first appeared in the shops
no fanfare, no hype, no nothing- I asked the shopkeeper "What's this?" and he said something like
"Dunno, some Nirvana throwaways or something" Took it home and loved it, thought it was as good as "Bleach". Over the years I have noticed it's absence in the Nirvana discussion. Bleach doesn't get it's due either, I think cause Chad was drumming on it, but Chad is underrated too.
Mostly in that Dave Grohl is massively overrated
one of the worst, most poundingly unsubtle drummers ever.
Grohl hits hard no doubt but not massively overrated
that's why he got hired by nirvana. He does have finesse in his onslaught, can't deny that.
He played drums on "Breed" -therefore a god
and qotsa "song for the dead"
it is godlike
Dave Grohl
has all the finesse and musical intelligence of a retarded child.
thats bullshit
Its an exagerration
but I still hate the guy.
I hate the fact that he insists on playing guitar
what is the deal there?
^Wrong
Unplugged :)
I think he used brushes on unplugged?
.
He actually had to be TOLD what brushes were for that though, apparently
which pretty much just proves my point.
all it proves is that he was a drums
POWERHOUSE
Bleach is possibly my favourite
it's uncompromisingly gritty in some parts. Insesticide is probably better for a more 'rounded' sound.
Nirvana are brilliant
The bit where the feedback comes in at the part of sliver is amazing.
People who don't like nirvana are gay.
Kurt cobain was unbelievably cool.
this post makes me misty eyed
: )
yes to yes_
Listen to "Big Long Now" it's a voice in the wilderness
I'm not even a huge nirvana fan
I've only got the s/t greatest hits and Nevermind, but they were obviously brilliant and it's a crime that so many indie people deride them because they were associated with disaffected teenagers. Kurt was one of the best rock singers and frontmen of ages, and was an extremely interesting individual.
^
nirvana were great
christ
I feel like I've stepped into a time warp and I'm 14 again.
go with it
: )
i wish i was fourteen again
and Nirvana was all fresh and new and exciting, even though Cobain would've been dead for, like, YEARS.
First Nirvana album I got
due to it being in the discount bin at a local cd shop.
Love Aneurysm - "Beat it! Beat it!"
You found it where?
"in the discount bin"- orphan stutus.
I think it goes for the usual price these day but yeah, I don't know to many Nirvana titles that made it into cut outs.
Aneurysm: contains 1 of the best screams in rock music and such a clean riff; you could hang a syphony orchestra on that thing, the bridge part "come on over, do the twist" and "Beat it! Beat it!" is good dancing. Just ONE of the killer tracks on "Incesticide".
I cant disagree
that insesticide is underrated compared to most of the crap out there, but its no In Utero. Ins does sound like a compilation album to my ears and so does not have the same immediacy and punch as In Utero or Nevermind. But I guess we are not debating the merits of nirvana releases relative to each other.
verse chorus verse
They never released a duff record and incesticide's a great collection.. so varied, great choice of covers and some really uninhibited, raw songs. Anyone who hasn't heard it should seek it out. Still though I agree with the above - In Utero is the best of theirs.
accurate summation
I guess that would be the "Best Nirvana Album?" thread
Incesticide is a compilation album but so what? Just cause Kurt didn't conceptualize it from the beginning doesn't cheapen it's worth. I suspect he just wrote till he had an album's worth of songs and then went to studio. In the case of In Utero he wanted to make a "Punk" record. Do you think he succeeded? Maybe but my point is that concepts, or mission statements in the making of albums sounds well and good but I don't think many of them survive the whole creative process and recording process. I supect in the case of "Incesticide" he just had all these orphan songs that he brought together on the record. Look at "incesticide" as an orphanage or asylum for wayward Kurt Cobain songs.
I'll go with Asylum
but orphanage has its appeal. nice metaphor!
^^^ aye
it's a shame some of the other covers didn't get on there, Do You Love Me, Here She Comes Now, D7, all great, their version of Seasons In the Sun not so!
Aero Zeppelin is one of my fave nirvana songs ever, wonder if some of these songs would have made Nevermind even better if they'd replaced a few duffer tracks like In Bloom and Lounge Act
in bloom???
youre silly. :-p
awww :(
let's just say some bits grate after 16 years...
i agree
that some bits grate now. on nevermind, some of the poppier bits have lost the sheen that they had initially, now not seeming so clever and self-actualised. also some fo the angsty bits are cringeworthy.
but in bloom isnt one of those bits for me.
the whole of in utero is like that for me now.
I agree with you 90%
I love Aero Zeppelin too- I love how he toys with those two band's zietgiests and "Seasons In The Sun" was super lame (it was the first record Kurt bought, or so he claimed). Don't think I'm familiar w/ the other covers you spoke of. The 10% disagreement lies in the two "duffer" tracks' oops. I love lounge act and both versions of In Bloom.
dave crover!!
... on some of bleach. paper cuts and floyd the barber from memory.
nirvana meant the world to me at the time. and i'm one of the few who actually had bleach first. not bragging just saying.
now, looking back on it 100 years later, it's bleach and the wierder tracks of insesticide that i go back to from time to time. nevermind is part of my genetic make up now, i dont need to actually listen to it.
Bleach for me too
I'm old (well, 36, is that old, I don't know anymore) and bought Bleach from Our Price in a lunch break on the back of it being in the Sub Pop section and having an interesting cover. Still love it. Nevermind disappointed me after that. Sliver is the song for me though.
i'm 33
old is anything above 18, as i keep telling the temp in the office who makes jokes about me being old. he grudgingly has to agree.
funny thing is, he likes such weak music. as rollins said, we'll be the first generation thats likely to be 'into harder-core shit than our kids'.
being 33 is ace.
InCesticide innit
or was that intentional?
Yes yes yes
Nevermind + Incesticide rock the fuck out. In Utero, Bleach + Unplugged = fucking garbage.
the most underrated nirvana record maybe but
the most underrated album? Everyone in the world owns it, and rates it.
Good point Basil
and is it really a proper album? I don't generally consider compilations when thinking of a bands best work
whoops not to dwell on the negative
I should say it is a great listen. Hits the raw punk sound that Nirvana never really captured on any of there studio albums.
well, if the compilation contains their best work
what are you going to do? I'm not saying Incesticide is the best Nirvana but it is High Nirvana.
The tracks on Incesticide can't be disqualified from consideration just cause they appear on a "compilation" record. When I'm thinking of a band's best work I just consider what I've heard in it's entirety, I'll give extra points for concept, packaging and artwork but I can't see myself discounting worth over petty things like "compilation" vrs official album presentation. I think most albums are compilations anyway.
"Everyone in the world owns it, and rates it"?
Maybe in your world, maybe in today's world but not that long ago (seems to me) Incesticide was pretty much forgotten and I was forever pointing it out to "nirvana fans" as being something they should look into.
I had an Insesticide t-shirt
I loved it!
I'd totally agree, it's a great album. the DEVO cover is the obvious highlight for me.
Did anyoine have a Japanese cd with come of the tacks on it?
called Hoarmoning, came out about a year or so before this
i have it
all the liner notes are in japanese. would you like to buy it?
Apologies I have it
ut I think it has the fantastic cover of the Wipers D-7 on it that really should have been included on Incesticide
It's a Nirvana album.
The word 'underrated' can't actually be used in any real sense of the word when connected to anything by Nirvana. It might not be everyone's favourite Nirvana album, but that's not the point.
Also, it has Aneurysm on it.
Aneurysm > everything else Nirvana ever did.
Everything.
Immense
Album, as is everything they ever committed to tape.
I almost agree
except
Verse Chorus Verse > Aneurysm
Dive > Aneurysm
But only just.
TOP ALBUM
but sliver is embarassingly crud
Dive>Aneurysm
But onl
Dive>Aneurysm
But only just
I don't quite get you Coldy.
I've been thinking about that ever since I wrote it
And I'm not sure I agree with myself.
They are my two favourite Nirvana songs though, so I guess it doesn't matter all that much.
Bleach and With The Lights Out (the box)
Are gems as well. Not as overlooked as Incesticide but not discussed much. After posting this thread I canvassed a few shops to find Incesticide residing along side Nevermind and In Utero and the others generally going for like prices. I did find a couple shops with numerous used Incesticides and Incesticides marked at a "nice price" while the rest of the catalog was fetching the going rate.
I see Bleach and Incesticide as kind of sister albums chock full of pure unadulterated Cobain- before he got twisted up by fame, heroin, paranoia and guilt.
With Bleach and Incesticide Cobain was just twisted up by LIFE.
this
album is very very good. Not a Nirvana fan either.