As a general rule I obviously think people should go Dutch.
The idea of the man being expected to pay is antiquated, illogical in an era where women work too and slightly patronising, as well as carrying the bizarre connotation women can and should be "bought".
though I might hope for a nosh or something at some point. But the last time I went on a date, that shite remake of Starsky and Hutch was on in the cinemas.
If I like someone, I like to be generous with them. fumbling around with money and working out the bill on a date would just be embarrassing all round.
i went out with a girl once who's parents were rich and got her a very well paid job in their office. however she thought the idea of me 'taking her out' and not paying for everything was disgusting. needless to say the bitch got hacked up and left in some dumpsters
if it's gone Jack P Smoothly and she sounds like she's on her way back to your lovenest then pay, if she's a bit of a dick, not putting out and you don't think you'll see her again then at the very least make her pay half, maybe even look for a fire exit.
apparently i have no chance with girls ever because i think its a major turn off if they expect to be paid for.
I wont pay for bother full stop cos its suppose to be mutual attraction of personalities not her attraction to a free meal. I like the idea of cost no associated thou, ie. i pay for first date she pays for 2nd then its up to the person and their income as to what they choose to spend.
and i usually insist on paying my share, particularly at early stages, otherwise i would feel like i owe the guy something.
that said, i have let a guy pay recently because he took me to some fancy place way out of my budget and he obviously wanted to show off. and then he turned out to be racist, so i felt no guilt about it at all.
they've always quite strongly insisted they go dutch and they hate the idea of men paying for them.
I'd happily pay for them but this has always happened. Of course other dates i paid for everything, just as other dates they insisted they pay for everything. It's all good.
it's nice if the guy pays, but the girl should still offer to pay half. After that, you should go dutch unless someone is treating someone for a reason.
when i've got a job, i'm such a ridiculously generous person, and i spent so much money on my girlfriend/other people. giving/lending money out left right and centre
however it all gets returned when i go 6 months without a job and my parents and girlfriend have to lend me £££
and not be pissed off if I had to pay my share. However...depends how the date was arranged. If someone says "can I take you out for dinner?" then of course i would still offer but probably expect them to pay. Is that reasonable?
as it's always annoying when people don't just let you pay.
I would then ensure I paid for the second date though.
But splitting also fine and maybe preferable. It is nice to have someone buy you dinner though, just as I'm sure it's nice for a boy if a girl buys them dinner. All equally as acceptable.
moved on since men, and women, thought that the gentle, fair, weaker sex are unable to handle money and therefore need a gentleman to take care of her.
it's really not that difficult. i mean, i wouldn't notice if i paid more, but i'd be quite aware of them paying my share of things. it makes me feel weird, unless i really like them and plan to see them again
he said "let's go see that new jake gylenhaal film" and i thought he was talking about brokeback mountain but he was actually talking about jarhead. he paid for the tickets and i paid for the popcorn. anyone who knows me knows i only go to the cinema for the popcorn (extra large salted) so i ended up spending more. i wasn't too bothered.
other than that the closest i've come to a date is when i went to pizza express the other day. and that was more like a 'double date', if anything.
this time this boy asked to meet up and we got stoned in a park and then broke into an outdoor pool and went swimming. i've never been invited out for a meal/cinema. ACTUALLY, maybe i'm not sad about that. sounds pretty dull.
50% of the time though, i don't have it, so share (date) or get free meal (friends). the system seems to balance out overall.
since you're potentially talking £50-80 for a date though, girls who expect to be paid for are a bit cheeky if it's obvious you're not the richest man in town. it's nice if there's an offer to contribute, even if i insist on turning it down.
always dutch
girls that expect to be paid for can seriously fuck right off
^ pitching for a cheap date
If I was a girl
I'd offer to pay my share if it was a bad date.
If it were good I'd offer to pay next time.
if it's a bad date?
"I'll, umm, be back in a sec, need to go to the loo"
*sound of running feet*
I got a girl to pay once.
It was a proud moment...
i paid 100% of the time
when i was courting. I am a real man.
^ whipped
At the time she was working and I wasn't.
As a general rule I obviously think people should go Dutch.
The idea of the man being expected to pay is antiquated, illogical in an era where women work too and slightly patronising, as well as carrying the bizarre connotation women can and should be "bought".
how bigs your penis dude?
:P
Although in retrospect
it was probably to ensure she felt no further obligation to me whatsoever :(
I'd certainly offer
but if he insisted on paying so be it. I'd do the "no it's fine" "no, really I insist" "oh, go on then".
I've previously been in relationships where he paid for NOTHING and was a total scrounge.
you still got this girls number?
she sounds nice
is this
a) a reply in the wrong place
b) a gender fail
or
c) a joke I don't get
a reply to a thread that i misread
thought starshaped was a guy saying he went out with a girl who paid for everything. but alas. i was wrong
you thought I was a GUY?
Oh, Sarah Marx, you and your mannishly long hair!
I guess it's an easy mistake
to make huh? I mean I still think YOU might be a girl.
yeh!
i just read the post wrong!
I wouldn't mind paying
though I might hope for a nosh or something at some point. But the last time I went on a date, that shite remake of Starsky and Hutch was on in the cinemas.
don't see the big deal
If I like someone, I like to be generous with them. fumbling around with money and working out the bill on a date would just be embarrassing all round.
not if it cleans you out
i went out with a girl once who's parents were rich and got her a very well paid job in their office. however she thought the idea of me 'taking her out' and not paying for everything was disgusting. needless to say the bitch got hacked up and left in some dumpsters
i would always try to insist to pay for it all
just the done thing innit?
the trick is to offer then
realise you've left your wallet at home
it depends how the date's gone.
if it's gone Jack P Smoothly and she sounds like she's on her way back to your lovenest then pay, if she's a bit of a dick, not putting out and you don't think you'll see her again then at the very least make her pay half, maybe even look for a fire exit.
i had a convo about this with 5 girls the other day
apparently i have no chance with girls ever because i think its a major turn off if they expect to be paid for.
I wont pay for bother full stop cos its suppose to be mutual attraction of personalities not her attraction to a free meal. I like the idea of cost no associated thou, ie. i pay for first date she pays for 2nd then its up to the person and their income as to what they choose to spend.
both not bother
.
i think this is absolutely fine
and i usually insist on paying my share, particularly at early stages, otherwise i would feel like i owe the guy something.
that said, i have let a guy pay recently because he took me to some fancy place way out of my budget and he obviously wanted to show off. and then he turned out to be racist, so i felt no guilt about it at all.
one night, one night
ooohhhh, one night in heaven
heaven? the gay club?
i always pay
then let the girl take me to the off licence
then it's back to my beanbag for watching hollyoaks and fingering
men get paid more than women
so i don't getting thing paid for.
don't mind*
fail
^ generalisation
Where this falls down is it's not a date between "men" and "women"
It's date between you and a man. Just because men in general get paid more doesn't mean that particular man will be paid more than you.
really?
LOL that is the weakest argument ever!
,.
LOL
it was a joke
offer to pay my share
but secretly hope that he'll say 'i'll pay'
I dont think i've ever been on a date where i paid for her also
they've always quite strongly insisted they go dutch and they hate the idea of men paying for them.
I'd happily pay for them but this has always happened. Of course other dates i paid for everything, just as other dates they insisted they pay for everything. It's all good.
On a first date
it's nice if the guy pays, but the girl should still offer to pay half. After that, you should go dutch unless someone is treating someone for a reason.
ALSO
guys probably don't think of the expense it takes girls to get ready for a date - nails, waxing, hair, underwear etc., all cost money
Come off it.
That's just being silly. You might as well factor in how much the car cost if the guy drives you.
LOL
ur dates have to buy underwear! :S what kinda kinky shit is this?
doesn't wash
pft
i like paying for people cause I know in the near future I'm going to be broke an dhope that early generousity will be rewarded with sympathy food.
^ this kind of
when i've got a job, i'm such a ridiculously generous person, and i spent so much money on my girlfriend/other people. giving/lending money out left right and centre
however it all gets returned when i go 6 months without a job and my parents and girlfriend have to lend me £££
i like to think I'm like this
but I don't think its noticable enough
it will
x
hooray :)
x
i have a pizza express 2 for 1 voucher!
i'll pay for my half with it, you can pay for your half with money. deal?
ha
yeah deal
not really
i'll use real money.
you will not
you can pay for it by other means. Breakfast goods probably.
more dry toast it is then
why do women expect this and still expect equality?
it basically adds up to women expecting men to pay for sex
Nail. Meet head.
hello?
'you've hit the nail on the head, sunshine'
If someone expects a free night out
they are not worthy of respect.
I would always offer
and not be pissed off if I had to pay my share. However...depends how the date was arranged. If someone says "can I take you out for dinner?" then of course i would still offer but probably expect them to pay. Is that reasonable?
yeah if u ask a girl out like that
then i guess its a loop hole, cos they could assume it means u just offered to by them dinner..
crafy.
yes but I reckon that's a fair assumption.
But if someone casually said "do you fancy going to get a drink sometime?" then it's a bit different. Or even "shall we go out for dinner?".
But yeah, I think it's really unfair when girls expect boys to pay for everything for them.
If someone offers I'll accept
as it's always annoying when people don't just let you pay.
I would then ensure I paid for the second date though.
But splitting also fine and maybe preferable. It is nice to have someone buy you dinner though, just as I'm sure it's nice for a boy if a girl buys them dinner. All equally as acceptable.
would totally go dutch on the first date if i didn't really know them
i mean, otherwise it's really really weird and might, to be cynical, set up some expectations
afterwards, i don't mind paying for them occasionally and vice versa
I thought times have
moved on since men, and women, thought that the gentle, fair, weaker sex are unable to handle money and therefore need a gentleman to take care of her.
More's the pity...
Now we're supposed to treat women like they're the same as real people. It's ludicrous.
what kind of date would it be
as people seem to assume everything will be totalled up nicely at the end of the evening
to me splitting it doesnt mean counting pennies
u just both contribute somthing. or agree to other person paying next time :)
well, if you're going for dinner
you can split then and there
if you're buying drinks, you can do rounds
if you get a taxi home, you split the fare
it's really not that difficult. i mean, i wouldn't notice if i paid more, but i'd be quite aware of them paying my share of things. it makes me feel weird, unless i really like them and plan to see them again
do people actually go on DATES?
i don't think i've ever been on one :(
yeah
normally friends fo friends etc. often kinda a double with a proper couple. *awaits seedy jokes*
i went to the cinema once
he said "let's go see that new jake gylenhaal film" and i thought he was talking about brokeback mountain but he was actually talking about jarhead. he paid for the tickets and i paid for the popcorn. anyone who knows me knows i only go to the cinema for the popcorn (extra large salted) so i ended up spending more. i wasn't too bothered.
other than that the closest i've come to a date is when i went to pizza express the other day. and that was more like a 'double date', if anything.
i think the closest thing i've been to a date is...
this time this boy asked to meet up and we got stoned in a park and then broke into an outdoor pool and went swimming. i've never been invited out for a meal/cinema. ACTUALLY, maybe i'm not sad about that. sounds pretty dull.
Hey Laura,
wanna go on a date with me?
i think i'm busy that night
i mean, YEAH TOTALLY. where you gonna take me? you have to pay. i'm all about traditional gender roles.
i usually don't mind paying if i have it
this applies to friends too, not just dates.
50% of the time though, i don't have it, so share (date) or get free meal (friends). the system seems to balance out overall.
since you're potentially talking £50-80 for a date though, girls who expect to be paid for are a bit cheeky if it's obvious you're not the richest man in town. it's nice if there's an offer to contribute, even if i insist on turning it down.
i woudln't expect them to pay anything, if i asked them out.
the man pays, unless they ask you, if they offered i'd say thanks but i wouldn't let them pay for it.
*unless they ask you out
I'd let a girl pay for me.
One step closer to being a kept man.
Men who pay for dinner generally think they're going to get laid later.
I always pay my share.