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DON'T TREAD ON ME!!!
better than jay-z
(and i went to glastonbury)
Not my favourite 'tallica album
but you can't knock Enter Sandman and Sad but True as an opening one, two. Awesome.
^ heresy
It's shit
A terrible terrible mish mash of glued together riffs. This is NOT thrash metal, it's mid paced crap.
It's such a departure from everything they did before. Metallica died in 1988 as far as I'm concerned.
isthisinteresting?
no
but i'm drunk.
and loving it.
Okay
The fact that you're drunk, on the internet, at 6pm on a Saturday... renders any opinion completely invalid.
^^^ I agree
Justice is clearly their best album.
..??
they werent trying to be thrash on Black - they had been doing the same music for nearly a decade and wanted a change of direction - so they went and created one of the best Metal albums of all time
I'm not saying they were trying to be thrash
I happen to like the Black Album....however they were never as good after Justice I reckon.....that was the peak of their riffage.
NOT thrash metal
...and they aren't allowed to change their sound then? Thrash until death?
is it
great cheese on toast
It's just a different kind of heavy
not as good as Master or Justice, but up there with Ride and Kill. Pisses all over everything that followed.
Are you on drugs?
Ride the Lightning and Kill 'Em All are genre defining, era defining records... The Black Album is a horrible attempt at writing radio rock that was written and glued together using pro tools. Bob Rock did a horrible horrible job.
Death to False Metal.
Yes I am on drugs
but that's by the by.
What you say about Ride and Kill is true but I will always love the Black album. I'm old enough to have bought Justice on the day it came out and saw them on that tour.
The Black album to me will always be college / uni and it soundtracked some really good times. I also saw them at Donnington around this time and twice on the Black tour. Sometimes music cannot be enjoyed just by what it influenced how it defined a genre, what is their best album. Sometimes music transcends all that. It's also really heavy and I would guess you dislike it because it took them to a much bigger audience hence the sneery radio rock reference. Personally I loved 'my music' being played on radio 1 at that time because you never heard it anywhere before that unless you went out and bought it.
Rant over.
thank you!
hate snobbery like.
It's nothing to do with snobbery
It's nothing to do with them going to a larger audience. If they went to a bigger audience and still made music that I like then that'd be fine. The problem is, they completely changed their sound. The Black Album doesn't even sound like the same band as the previous 4 records. It's shit.
"of wooolf and maaay-unnn-ah"
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everytime i think i'm utterly sick of these songs
and go off them for awhile Metallica still manage make me love them again, even after 10 years and hundreds of plays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfAe1K2wzM
Metallica were shit
until they got rid of all those guitar solos and used bins as percussion.
This album
is a piece of shit. They sold out - and not even in a good way. I mean Guns N' Roses sold out but at least we got 'November Rain' out of it.
What did these jokers give us? 'Nothing Else Matters'...
...wankers...
whinge whinge whinge
why don't you write some songs instead of whinging you old whingywhinger!
oh dear god
did you just criticise nothing else matters by using November Rain as an example of a good "selling out" song....you are an idiot, simple.
November Rain is probably the worst song ever written...EVER.
indeed.
i think i listened to this album so much when i bought it that i broke it for me but every time i go back to i love it again. Yeah its not thrash but its still fuckin colossal.
Your name says it all.
"moderate rock" - exactly what this album is, which in my book translates as "shit".
ouch
i'm off to listen to my Bon Jovi albums or something
indeed!
Nah, not so much
Long leather coat? Check.
Wrestling video? Check.
No friends? Check.
Mum's basement? Check.
Poetry about ghosts? Check.
Poster of woman with big breasts wearing a vest? Check.
Black album? Check.
never heard it
but in my school days metal years back in the 80's I did love Master, Ride the Lightning, Kill Em All and Justice but then kinda grew out of the whole metal/thrash/whatever scene (not that I'm saying it's immature music, that'd be wrong). I even sold all those cd's and cassettes (yeah cassettes!) years back and have wondered on occassion whether to re-buy Justice for old times sake. Should I bother? Ahhh, I'm flashing back to my school days now and can hear "Master, Master, where's the dreams that I've been after" in my head now. Oh, and I loved the $5.98 Garage Days Revisited EP most of all.
Surely
the point at which it all started going wrong. I'm not sure at which point getting Fucking Bob Rock to produce Metallica's albums seemed like a good idea, but it ruined them forever. Of course, he can't take all the blame, but to go from their best, and most progressive, album (And Justice) to that was a massive step back. Isthisinteresting is right, its not about snobbery, they sound like two different bands.