Can someone give me a list of pros and cons. I am seriously considering it because I have recently met someone who has really made me reconsider my opinions on such things. I currently only eat free range meat, lovely fish and game, in small quantities.
Also, I really like lentils, chick peas and kidney beans.
but you're pro-fox hunting?
yep
but that doesn't mean i'm pro-animal rights. i'd never deny that fox hunting is horrible, i see it more as a necessary evil.
Did you mean 'anti-animal rights' there?
Otherwise I'm confused.
that's crap
if there is a problem with the fox population for farmers, they should set traps or go out and shoot them in the head, not have the things pulled to pieces by dogs in what can only be the most horrific, prolonged way to die imaginable.
why don't you just try being vegetarian for a month, say
and see if the glove fits, so to speak?
^
or eat some really really bad meat.
(it'll put you off)
I think I'm slowly going this way
unintentionally
Vegetarian food- nice
Vegan food- nice
Deliberately limiting yr own options- yawnfest
Although the best argument I've heard against this:
"well, are you bisexual?" Lol.
yes i am
Well I know YOU are
so it probably doesn't work against you. Er...
I'm lost.
How does being bisexual influence what you eat?
not really
i don't think it's necessary to eat meat or even animal products in this day and age. limiting yourself makes you experiment more with the things you can eat, if you see what i mean.
(we just have vegetable stew/stir fry/roast vegetables every day because it's all we can afford innit)
Like I said, the food is really nice
I could eat it every day, probably wouldn't miss meat, least not in a "I MUST have meat" sort of way.
But then I'd see one of those really nice cheese crust pork pies in Manchester Markets and be all like: "well why NOT have one?" But I guess thats because I'm not invested in animal rights and/or eating the same food as my partner.
true
i like going past fish stalls and smelling them, but never really feel any great urge to buy any of it. this is probably because i couldn't be bothered to cook it though.
You'll never sit in the Sainsburys car park
Eating pre-roasted chicken. :(
:D
i've got a mid-life crisis to come yet. no fast cars for me, just a two month long meat binge.
Man...
those were the days. After they invent a veggie version of that I might as well give up on life because no-one will want to touch me given i've got veggie chicken juice all running down my face and body.
I have found it easy to avoid meat
Bean burgers are nicer anyways ANNNNNNND its an excuse for me to indulge in cheese more :D I feel a lot healthier and am liking saalallllalalalallalalalalalalaads more!
OOOO would this person u met happen to be a girl, if it is and your doing it to get off with her then you shouldnt become one because your heart wont be in it... just your winky dinky ;)
it's someone i really really respect the opinions of
:)
Is it me?
:)
is it me?
i always consider it
i could go without pork, beef and lamb, but i do eat quite a lot of chicken.
i love lentials, chick peas, beans, salad, fruit and bread as well.
you can eat eggs and cheese as a veggie cant you? i eat so much cheese.
you could always give it a try
that's probably the best way to find out if it's for you, you know
pros: chicks dig it.
Not this chick
http://cache.fleshbot.com/assets/resources/2007/03/2007_03_14_steak2.jpg
so thats why so many guys are vegetarian these days huh
No they don't
they think it's stupid :(
I'm not vegetarian,
but probably around 80% of all the meals I eat are. And I've never eaten better. Going out with a vegetarian has turned me into a half-decent cook.
Con: it's all too easy to overdose on cheese
Who'da thunk it?
do you have cheese nightmares thewarn
thatwarn*
what
do u have cheese dreams that warn?
but his name is thewarn
what you said makes no sense
i have to agree
that's one of your least sensical posts in a while, ducky
Only that I've run out of cheese.
But then I wake up and I haven't, so that's ok.
My mate Jimmy once ate a huge chunk of cheddar before bed in an attempt to induce nightmares. Didn't work. Poor Jimmy.
You get to act dead smug in social situations that involve eating
:D
in my experience
you just get laughed or taken pity on!
laughed at**
It's fine
there aren't pros and cons as such, unless you go on holiday somewhere where there aren't many vegetarians, then it's a pain in the arse. If you want to do it, it's not difficult.
How many vegans are there on DiS?
Is it just me, dash_and_blast, scarlet_apples and laura_wolf?
charlotte's a vegan now?
when did this happen? she never tells me anything.
i'm vegan! i guess. COOL.
Unless she's been lying to me.
Which, to be honest, is perfectly feasible.
she said she was being vegan at atp
and then didn't eat because of it. idiot. i think she probably did tell me actually, but she's too busy to see me these days so she could be dead for all i know.
I managed
to stay vegan at atp...
me too
but it's not the best time to decide you're going to be vegan.
yes.
golden blue is in our club.
....
should we make badges?
^ i'm trying.
not quite got there yet, but my heart's in the right place and i'll manage it soonish.
that was quite the jump.
straight from carnivore to vegan?
not quite, but small steps and all that.
I keep falling off the waggon, so to speak, i'm trying to convince my friend to do it with me, i need the moral support.
I reckon go vege first for a bit.
And don't stop eating meat or whatever right away. If you have meat in the house then eat it, just say you're not gonna buy anymore, and go from there.
I'm vegan
*a moron.
OUCH
Why do you hate me? :'(
Oh, and
Charlotte's telling you she's vegan? Lol.
pshhh
et moi! are you forgetting that amazing vegan cake recipe i made for you?
i've been vegan for all of 12 hours now
it's going pretty well, since all i've eaten is a banana.
aside from the ethical reasons..
the british medical association says "vegetarians have lower rates of obesity, coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, large bowel disorders, cancers and gall stones. cholesterol levels tend to be lower in vegetarians"
and the world cancer research fund says "vegetarian groups have been shown to have lower risk of cardiovascular disease, lower rates of obesity and longer life expectancy than meat-eaters"
can't argue with longer life!
vegetarianism is also much better for the environment. growing crops uses less water and is much less polluting than meat production.
how do they account for all the countries
where vegetarianism basically non-existant where people have much higher life expectancy than people in britain
Many other factors
DOY
the implication of whats quoted above is that meat is the root cause of these things
yet there are a lot of countries in which meat-eating is far more central to what people eat than it is in britain, in these countries (in an apparent paradox) people in general live longer lives than in britain
what are the other factors which cancel out meat being this bad for you, could people not just do them instead and not worry about vegetarianism
meat eating itself is not the cause of this
it's the eating of meat-based unhealthy products, particularly, like i said, from fast food restaurants (in terms of the figures, anyway). you can be healthy and eat meat, you can be unhealthy and be vegetarian. it's just easier to be unhealthy if you eat meat
im curious as to how much fast food rocknrollmassacre eats now
absolutely none
except the occasional fish and chips LOL
i haven't ever had a macdonalds/burger king etc etc etc EVER in my life
You haven't lived.
Make sure you have a bigmac before going vegetarian.
no thanks
the thought of it makes me feel disgustingly sick. although looking at the cheese in addition, it would probably put me off ever eating animal products ever again
eh?
the implication of what's quoted above is not that meat is the root cause of those things. where do you get that from? it just says that vegetarians tend to have lower rates etc...
yeah
it's easier to be healthy as a vegetarian
or, it's easier to be unhealthy as a meat-eater
it doesn't mean you'll be either
this is what i was getting at i guess
cool
see, the obesity thing
the figures are probably that way to an extent because the vast majority of fast food - certainly most of the more unhealthy fast food - is meat-based. people who consume huge amounts of fast food are going to skew the figures that way because there tend to much much fewer, say, vegetarians who consume vast amounts of fast food
which isn't to say being vegetarian is a bad thing, i'd probably just stay overweight by porking out (no pun intended) on houmous.
Still,
somebody who is fat from burgers is going to be less healthy than someone who is fat from hummus/houmous/houmus/humous.
yes
particularly because they'll have less saturated fat intake
but they'll still be fat
yeah, but still better in absolutely every way? agreed?
cool.
oh dear
Hey
can you see my tongue? Notice it's placement relative to my cheek. You may be surprised to note it is firmly in it.
okay
because i was being 1000% serious with my character judgement when i said "oh dear"
not as good as vegans.
:)
Pro - it'll make you seem even more twee and pretentious
Con:Veggies are yucky
i can't think of any cons
but i don't like the taste of meat and you do. if you are ok at cooking and live in an area with good shops then it's not difficult at all.
Yeah!
pros - Better for the environment, makes you cooler, makes you healthier, superiority complex
cons - NONE!
also
cheaper to feed yourself and you'll actually find yourself eating more adventurously when you don't rely on The Meat being The Focus of The Meal.
India is a brilliant country for vegetarians in terms of cuisine.
That's a brilliant idea
All the vegetarians should go to India :D
^
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/3721939#r3722154
For joking?
It's self-deprecating as much as anything else. I have no more problem with veganism or vegetarianism than I have with Christianity.
What are your problems with christianity?
Go on, explain, heretic.
Also, the self deprecation.
...I don't hate you.
:')
So I went looking for this for nothing:
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/3691097
fine
we'll have a better time away from all this RELENTLESS PERSECUTION.
yeah,
and look where that's got them!
As opposed to France,Germany(especially Gemany),and so on
*Big eco friendly safety wink