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by wrightylew
Its quite easy to see why a lot of people have been praised in the 20th Centruy as being 'greats', like Bowie, Rolling Stones, Zeppelin etc. But I've seen shit loads of hail for this band and I really cannot understand why they're regarded as so good by a lot of people.

Firstly, they might have had a couple of songs that were alright, but the huge, overblown, fuzzy videos with about 3 choirs, churches and boring solos are some of the worst music I've ever heard. Its not the way they play, its the stuff they do play.

As for 'Slash'. He had a shit image, a shit name, a shit hat and he was from Stoke on Trent. How the fuck is he meant to be one of the best guitarists of all time? Guns n Roses have just put me right off solos, and I can't stand anything that is even a little bit cheesy.

Thanks to Slash, and his hotpants-wearing friend, I've even been put off liking 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps'.

Please, argue if you like them, but also add if you hate them.
wrightylew | 07 Sep '05, 16:00 | Send note | Report this | Reply

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Appetite For Destruction = a kickass rock n roll album. Out of all the late 80s poodle rockin' bands, they stuck out like a sore thumb because they actually WERE dangerous.

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Dangerous indeed.

I just love Nirvana for killing cock rock off. Shame we payed the price with all the Kerang crap.

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Nirvana's legacy of "killing" 80s hair/cock/poodle/whatever metal is really overstated. As with all musical scenes, the smaller bands faded away and the few that survived continue to sell well to do this.

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I don't hate them as such, I mean Appetitie For Destruction is about as good as hair metal or whatever you want to call it, ever got. But everything they did past then was just poor in a genre that itself is really not very good.

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Seems you were too young to see how big this band actually were in their prime. Seriously, they were THE dominant band worldwide. Sure their music may not have aged as well as you might have thought, but they are still clearly the best of their contemporaries (Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue etc).

Slash is actually a quality guitarist and in my opinion the songs are still quality. I'm a GnR fan and have been for a long while. The videos may be very cheesy, but so were 90% of videos at the time. At least ehy had a half decent budget so they don't look likethey were produced on handicam.

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THE dominant band worldwide?

Wow! So were Abba! I'm not too young to realise how shit they were.

They're talked about like this band that will never go out of fashion. I cannot stand the fucking site of them.

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Huh? Abba were shit?
Wash your mouth out matey. With matey, if you're old enough to remember that!

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they do generally suck arse.

I admit to owning appetite for destruction, which has some alright stuff on it. everything else is complete turd. slash is a decent guitarist in a technical way, he's not particularly creative though, and he's a pratt.

november rain - unintentionally the funniest video ever.

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And Velvet Revolver, my god...:'(

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Welcome To the Jungle fucking slays. End of.

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I've waited for this thread my whole life.

I can't even describe to you how much I hate this band, their songs and their image. It's everything that kept me from listening to rock music until I discovered decent stuff of course.

I never understood how these guys or motley crue or poison etc etc could have ANY fans. The music goes through me like a cheese grater on the knob. I still hate guitar solos with a passion and just laugh whenever I see a band that has them still.

Fucking DREADFUL.

Actually make that FOcking dreadful, i think the word is dirtier with an "o"

Cheesy shite for people with no taste who like high tec boots man.




*please note these are only my opinions. but boy am I right!*

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There's some good tunes on appetite for destruction. Most of their subsequent output was extreme lameness. I properly hated them at the time though. Slash is a solid enough guitarist, but not an ounce of creativity in his JD ravaged body.

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They were a product of their time. Much of their music doesn't hold up today. Appetite was a great record and I played it a zillion times then and I never have been a (hair) metal fan. Now, I've purchased a couple records in my reconstruction period but haven't played them once. I guess you had to be there.

FYI. My l'il neice went to see Velvet Revolver. She liked it. Apparently they play a number of G 'n R/STP stuff along with their original tunes. I could give a fuck, but if nostaglia is your thing....

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You mean you couldN'T give a fuck?

You must be 'merican?

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We American prefer giving them. Thought you knew.

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bleeeeuuurrrrgggghhh, i hate guns n roses, if they sucked any more they would implode.

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don't really like them, never really listened to them to be honest. they are about as important to me as oasis, i.e. i just don't even bother trying to like them anymore.

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Hahahaha, I don't usually like 'suck', but I laughed at that a lot.

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Bands with solos really aren't a bad thing at all. How can you argue with stuff like Pantera, Metallica, Bodom and pretty much any heavy band since the year dot. Product of the time, yes, but some people happen to like it.

To be honest i prefer a band who seem to be enjoying themselves to ones who make me think of music as a chore. Sure, GnR are a bit cheesy, but at least they make me smile unlike Neutral Milk Hotel, The National and The Arcade Fire. Don't get me wrong, i like both big orchestration and acoustic bands, but all of those i mentioned really seem very boring and unoriginal. Not that metal, indie and rock CAN be particularly original genres these days.

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Pantera

EWWWWW

Now we're really talking technically able but soulless masturbatory wank

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They aren't on the same level as Zeppelin etc, come on now. Appetite for destruction is a fun album. It's also funny. Listen to Axl shout 'YOWZAAH' in his helium voice. Listen to the stupid sexist lyrics! If you can't stand anything that is remotely cheesy there is no hope for you liking GNR. Slash plays the same 'bluesy' crap all the time and it's rubbish.

I suggest you avoid Velvet Revolver like the plague. The songs are much worse and the singer can't sing and isn't remotely mad or entertaining. In fact he's annoying. Very very annoying.

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They aren't on the same level as Zeppelin

What you mean 'as good as'??

I'm a fan of both, but what you have just said is pretty funny really hahahahah!

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shit, read that wrong, thought you said ARE AS GOOD AS.


Sorry

*blush*

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Salreet son.

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They're overrated, but most big bands are. Patience is a beautiful song though. So is november rain.

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Hehe, the video for November Rain is like a lesson in how not to make a video.

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Their solos are too long and wanky
They can be fun in a harmless jock party rock band kinda way though
them and iron maiden
heh

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YOU!! YOUR JUST A KID!!! YOU WERENT THERE!!
YOU NEVER UNDERSTAND!!!!

Big guitar solos, big hair, narrowly getting run down by
a train whilst doing a big guitar solo, overblown videos,
Axel Rose fighting everybody and their mum, Terminator 2!!!,
Jumpers for goalposts....ahhhh, the memories!

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You can try and explain it to the kids, but they'll never get it. Welcome To The Jungle was Rad! fo' shore. If Appetite was all GNR had and they were a little known nothing band, we'd be fawning over their legacy. Such as it is, they're just a memory of decadent days gone by.

And NO! I never owned a pair of leather pants. ...Even though I'd have looked sexy as all hell. ;-)

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Throughout this entire thing, no-one has mentioned the biggest rivalry of all (at least in the pages of kerrang and metal hammer) GnR vs Metallica.

Back then I was 100% in the anti-GnR camp, but Appetite is ace.

Both good, but if you hate guitar solos, go check out some of Kirk Hammet's finer moments.

Read The Dirt for some funny views on Guns N Roses.

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And then both bands toured together.. madness.

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Have to disagree, Guns n Roses were a massive band that have influenced many bands and individuals.
The kid who started the thread, mate your 15! not to patrionise but you wern't even born when Guns n Roses brought out Appretite and you probably wern't even listening to music when they brought out use your illusion so yes! that makes you too young to appreciate what they did for music shit i'm probably slightly too young! and i'm 23! i think you and everyone thats joined you in slagging them off just isn't a fan of them or that genre (to a point) and thats ok! but Guns n Roses deserve every accolade they have ever been given they are a massive band and like i said have influenced many many bands and musicians bands that you listen to now. They were the real deal and were seriously dangerous no fake shit. Yeah it went pear shape at the end (unfotuantly axel didn't blow his head off i think if he did we wouldn't be having this conversation but thats another topic) but give them some credit. You may not like Slash either but he's an incredible guitarist FACT. They are Legends you can't argue with that if you are you just quite simply arn't a fan. There is a difference.

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i dont like them, but i dont go on like they stole my sandwich then pissed on it.

i mean out of all the "cock rock" bands they are by far the best, and i dont even like the genre in the slightest, in fact i hate it. but guns n roses have a special something, and to be the inspiration for most of your favourite bands, well you just have to respect them for what they did.

grow up wrightylew, if i were to go on about bands i hate they would be far too many threads about head automatica and iron maiden and the like, but i dont thankfully.

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If anyone dares to slag off Iron Maiden I'm gonna set Eddie on them.

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Iron Maiden fucking suck.

G'n'R fucking rule.

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Shut up Bamos.

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Quiet you, the man SPEAKS THE TRUTH.

they're out ta get meeeeeeeeeeee
they won't catch meeeeeeeeeeeeee
i'm fuckin' innocent!
so you can suck me!


Oh, Axl. What a moron you are..

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He's got an IQ of about 180 or something ridiculous. Mensa would probably be more fun if the likes of him were running it.

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Seriously?

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No shit. He's a very clever boy. Or he was until coke fucked him up bad*

*allegedly. He know he likes court cases too.

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Indeed, I was going to say he should be held up to kids as an example of what happens when you enjoy the Class A's a bit too much ;-)

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see thats why i dont, eddie's one scary motherbitch

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Grow up, you tit.

'too young to appreciate what they did'

What an utterly stupid thing to say. If you're referring to their success, that's pointless. Spice Girls sold millions, am I too young to appreciate that?

If you mean I can't pass judgement because I wasn't born, you're also a cunt. Are we not allowed to discuss bands that were around before we were born?

And you said FACT. You are one of the most stupid people I've ever seen on here. Die.

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"grow up you tit" - i hope the irony of that is not lost on you.

To answer your questions no i was not implying that you cannot pass judgement because you wern't born i was merly pointing out that because of your age you may not appreciate what Guns n Roses did for for rock music the fact that you fail to acknowledge any of what they did that only proves that.
And no mate you ain't too young to appreciate what the spice girls did as when they were around you were of an age when you could actually appreciate that.
I said FACT because guess what it is a fact! Slash is an amazing guitarist, he may not be a guitarist you like but that doesn't mean he is shit, there IS a difference!
All i have done is come on and offer my scope on the whole Guns n Roses thing (is that not what you wanted?), you have then answered me by insulting me, offering no counter arguments and to be honest showing your age which isn't good when your trying to argue that your age doesn't matter it's also pretty disrespectful and something that not many people will appreciate. Did you expect everyone to agree with you?? Looking at the bands your into it doesn't suprise me you dont like Guns n Roses so really all your doing is telling the world you don't like Guns Roses - big fucking deal hey guess what theres alot of bands i dont like! I wasn't trying to insult you in any part of my post i even accepted i may be too young aswell. I'll now go and crawl away and die.

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Good, make it quick.

How can I be too young to appreciate Guns and fucking Roses though? I appreciate lots of music, like I said above, including tons of classical stuff.

Guns n Roses however, are just so awfully cringeworthy. Its unbelieveable how bad a band can be.

Also, I made the thread coz I was bored, fancied slagging them off. If you don't like it, I'm happy.

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ok i didn't say you couldn't appreciate them you quite obviously don't. I said (and if i was saying this i would be saying it slow) - you MAY not beable to appreciate what they did for music, Your missing my point altogther so this is the last i will say on this. I have never once asked you to appreciate or like their music. All i have said is that they are a massive band and Slash is an amazing guitarist proven by how many records they have sold, how many people they have influenced and how there music is still listened today as much as when they were around. Slashs talent as a guitarst is enough to say he is an amazing guitarist. all of your argument is based on you not liking their music rather than actual fact. Its ok to say you hate a bands music but accept that they are a good and succesful band that do deserve to be up there with the greats.

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waaaaoooooow GNR rock, man. Not the best in rock tho, that title should go to Poison and Motley Crue-those guys knwe how to party hard and playd like demons
\m/

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I always loved the video to november rain.