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Sick Of Conor Oberst

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by Tom Sykes

There are two unbearable things on the face of this planet. One - Pain, and Two - Hearing people fucking whining about it. For ages. And repeatedly. If arrogant Nebraskan teen (well, whatever, he acts like he’s still 15) Oberst was in a fucking concentration camp, being brutally beaten and tortured then I’d let him off, but as it stands his chosen dish from Café D’angst is, like, girls LEAVING HIM! Oh. My. God. The poor guy. Get over it. DON’T act like a total prick and write songs about your once dearly-beloved, you insensitive brat, laden with hundreds of references only SHE will get, and only SHE will be hurt by. DON’T write a self-pitying concept album (last year’s ‘Fevers and Meeeeeeeeeers’), and DON’T let yourself off the hook by claiming it’s all a show, you’re only a character. That doesn’t work for Eminem and it doesn’t work for you. DO FUCKING NOT compose a song entitled ‘It’s cool, we can still be friends’, a bitter assault on an ex-lover, and end with the lines “I’m pouring some whisky, I’m gonna get real fucking drunk, so I pass out, and forget your face by the time I wake up”. You utter bastard.

Right, I believe you are depressed, I believe you have problems, and I believe it’s ok to write songs about it. But, and this is the important bit, don’t get all high and mighty and decide that these songs deserve to be displayed to the world! "But hey, you don’t have to buy them if you don’t want!" SO FUCKING WHAT? Once it intentionally enters the media then you’ve crossed that line, the line between personal gratification and belief that you have something to offer the world. Miserable fucking teens do not need more shoegazery, whining, self-pitying quotes for their MSN names. They need a good fucking slap round the face. They need rock and roll, outrage, disgust, and hell, even fucking happiness! Cheer the existential, weight-on-my-back-gotta-drink-fucking-vodka-to-stop-the-fucking-paaaaaiiiinn kids up! Don’t give them more ammo!

Desaparecidos is a good start, but stop screaming like you’ve just endured the worst pain in the world, and get that fucking trembly, ‘gonna cry I’m so sad’, tone from your voice, ok? No one should get away with such blatant self-pity, and usually they don’t. If he constantly phoned up his friends and whined at them about how sad he is, and how he thinks about suicide, they’d tell him to shut the fuck up and get over it (I would hope, anyway). It’s because he puts it in a song, in such a poetic style, that everybody goes "Ahhh" and worries about the poor little lad. Well WAKE UP! Here’s the truth: No one can go onstage night after night and FEEL all that pain. He’s kidding himself and he’s kidding you. How can he still feel for a girl that dumped him years previously? (Well, ok, I’m not ruling that out, but she probably dumped him because of his constant fucking whining! He deserved it!) The guy is wallowing, and he makes you wallow too.

Now, some people say that the Bright Eyes game isn’t about self-pity. No, really, they do. When that boy goes into the studio to record a song, all that can possibly emerge from his collapsing little frame is total and utter T-O-R-T-U-R-E! And get this, we apparently walk away from the experience feeling happier, having come through the worst with our little ‘Wunderkind’ guiding us by the hand. WELL! What’s the best word to describe all that bollocks?

Oh well, BOLLOCKS will do. Sing it loud, sing it far. Run the fuck over to Omaha and bleat it in the bastard’s face. He has A CHOICE! Choice one is to sing songs, like a normal little boy, hitting all the right notes and not going out of his way to whine for a new surrogate mother/teenage fan. Choice two is to use song writing as a diary, a self-obsessed (yes, you were right on ‘Padraic my prince’), self-pitying (don’t deny it, he isn’t talking about war), self-indulgent little teenage diary. For god-knows-how-long he’s been walking the second road, but thankfully that trend seems to be bucking slightly, as, on the new EP, he cuts the method acting rubbish for a few brief moments and decides to sing properly. And all nicely! Aww. You do have to wade through loads of ‘look at me!’ crap about doctors and pills though, which is a shame.

Hey, I used to like Bright Eyes. I used to appreciate the self-pity and relate it to my own experiences (like I’m sure you do). But like most bands out there, they either let you down, or you realise the truth. And the truth is that listening to Bright Eyes turns you into a whiny little vodka-drinking cunt, and I don’t think any of us really wants to be like that, do we? Be "entranced" by this moaning indie-bollocks if you will, but I for one couldn’t give a toss about this or any other Saddle Creek band. It’s a cyclical (i.e. it won’t fucking die!) culture of liars, whiners, shoegazers and poets. Oh, I forgot, they’re all the same thing. Bastards. Bright Eyes may be heading in a slightly more acceptable direction, but ‘Wunderkind’ Conor still has that pin ready and waiting to stick deep into his hand. Question is, are you gonna give him the time of day?



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Hahaha! that boy has had this coming for so long. This made me laugh out loud thankyou very much! I doubt you'll be popular with the legions of 16 year old indie girls who fancy him though.

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I'm just jealous of his good looks really, and his "ability to play the guitar". Man, I never knew "Needy, attention-seeking bastard" was such a good look. Bloody poets.

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hehehehe. I dunno, I still like Bright Eyes, but precisely because they're good catharsis when you're in such an irretrievably bad mood that nothing is going to drag you out and you may as well wallow. I agree they should be restricted access when you're NOT in that mood, tho ;)

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The thing is, whiny little emo kids LEAP onto his lyrics when they're sad (which is, like, all the time presumably) thinking it gives them a license to moan. Maybe he does "understand" what they are going through, but what they are going through is inevitably shitey angsty crap. Listen to "No lies, just love" and you should see what I mean. It contains enough good miserable quotes to make Sylvia Plath green with envy. I wish teenagers would just stop wallowing and go listen to some fucking HAPPY stuff like Span or Mclusky or something. "All your friends are cunts and your mother is a ballpoint pen thief". MUCH better than "I am a sad indie man and i do actually take pills for it, as i mention in every song ive ever written" or whatever.

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oh wah wah wah, "i wish kids would listen to this and this and this because thats what i like, and my opinions are vastly superior to EVERYONE'S". i had a whole arguement worked out, but i know it wouldn't get through your thick skull so i'll leave you with a solitary fuck you.

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I agree. Let people listen to what interests them. If they want to wallow then let them. Quit trying to convert people like music is some kind of religion.

FairPlay...

Just because some people have the luxury of being happy all the time, or even the ability to embrace it just some of the time; does not give others the right to just shit on their opinions by telling them that their choices are worthless and to cheer up and listen to something happy. Music is supposed to be personal in a lot of senses, some people just view the aspects in which it is applied differently; thus the beauty in being able to have an opinion and make a choice that is your own on what you want to listen to. No one wants to have some elitist fuckwit ramming an opinion down their throat, just because the person doing the ramming thinks that they are right. You may not like the music, but you are ignoring the ultimate premise in letting people embrace their own choices - even if those choices are to wallow and work through the reasons for why they are doing so, with a somewhat tangible form of compassion in the form of a song that seems to make sense of that particular moment.

Everyone's different, and I can totally understand why people would think of Conor as nothing more than a whiner; but some of us are born fucking whiners! So just leave the boy to it and go and do something constructive with your time. Whether you like it or not, or agree with the emotion or subtext, just let people have an opinion and get the fuck off your high horse.

Music is supposed to be a freeing mechanism, an escape, a connotative device for emotion. Stop viewing it like its a fucking popularity contest in high school. It's utterly pedantic to try and dictate or dispute taste, as everyone is different.. It just astounds me that some people are capable of such stupidity to the extent of waging a war on freedom of expression. Grow the fuck up.


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"All your friends are cunts and your mother is a ballpoint pen thief".

Haha. Sounds interesting. You should try a band called Cancerslug. What they lack in musical talent, they make up in lyrics such as,"I wish I could have torn your mother's cunt apart and plucked you out way before you were born." Your article was amazing. I am a fan of Bright Eyes, but that was hilarious. And true for the most part. I think it's ok to like emo music, but if it's the only thing you listen to, and you can't even joke about it, it's rather pathetic.

hey ass

You talk about "teenagers" like you're not one. Unless your profile is incorrect, you are 19 years old.

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What is wrong with you? First of all, you have no life if you spend your free time going to sites of bands you hate and posting (multiple) long annoying comments about how much you hate them. Second off, you much be a total insecure person to go and insult someone you've never met and probably don't know much about. You're just saying all this shit about this guy and how he is such a "sad indie man" whose music depresses people, which it does not. Have you ever heard the song "Bowl of Oranges"??? It's a highly inspirational song about how we must love each other. Might I also ad that on an interview on a track on "Fevers and Mirrors" he mentions that his songs are not only about HIS experiences, but others too. Maybe you shouldn't target him so much, why don't you go and express all your anger on his friends then too? And you say that his lyrics are just spreading sadness? I'm sure you're much better, spreading all this hate and anger, the wonderful person you are!

A question to you, fantastic_tom, how many songs have you actually heard by bright eyes before basing your biased opinions on them? His songs are beautiful and poetic, and I'm sure that anything he creates is much more exquisite than any shit you come out with. I can't wait until everyone rejects you for the arrogant person that you are and you become more depressed than this person that you hate so much for his creativity.

And just on a last note I would like to say that I am not attracted to him in any way, in fact, it's quite the opposite. So don't just say that all his female fans are only his fans because of his appearance.

Have a nice day, loser

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Beautifully worded.

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thank you so much...i was reading this post, and i was getting more and more pissed by the minute, and i was on the verg of writing an angry reply to the bastard that wrote this, then i read your reply and found everything i wanted to tell him...THANK YOU...conor is a beautiful, sexy, beast, with an enormous amount of talent...plus, i really dont see the bastard that posted the initial post producing any records and being successful...

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exactly.

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Yeah... I admit i do still like his stuff sometimes... but the lyrics and the way he sings it makes me cringe most of the time. He wants to get a sense of humour and stop trying to look so goddamn tortured like it's a fashion statement

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its music. if sad music is what some people are into let it be. i mean you wouldn't want somebody telling you that you are listening to the wrong music and you are pathetic for it. its music and its what each person makes it.

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yeah, but although obviously we all respect that everyone has their own tastes and one man's pleasure is another man's poison live and let live and can't we all love each other etc etc, it's good to throw opinions at each other, else it's all a bit neutered. like if i sat next to you and went "booooeeeeeoooooeeeeeoooooeeeeeoooooeeeeoooooeee..." for a few minutes you'd probably tell me to shut the fuck up. i doubt you'd say "i'm not a fan of your unique brand of music, but i respect that you like it, can you please take it elsewhere." and so here we are with mr oberst, who has gradually got right on mr sykes' tits. and he got on mine too. he's a dreadful singer and i find his over-emoting embarassing like a toddler's tantrum. it's stunted in expression and the guy needs to execute some quality control. what's annoying is i can see he's a highly talented lyricist who has a way with melody, but he goes and fucks it up. that's how i was roped in, i heard 'bowl of oranges' and saw a few reviews and went for it. and i was more than a little disappointed. so hurray for tom sykes! especially since the piece was really quite amusing. let's get battling.

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sheesh, i've only just noticed that article was posted on 9th july. and look how it's sustained. mr sykes must be walking round with big smug grin i think.

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all you stupid fucks are such haters. its so pathetic how ignorant and narrow-minded you people are. not liking a type of music is one thing, but an all out Oberst bash? How fucking sad is that? Grow up and question yourself. Nobody gives a rats ass if you dont like the music. Its anothing thing to put down and mock artists. Oberst is a prodigy who'll be around for a while. whether you notice it or not. his music is authentic and original. Tom Sykes, you are a stupid fuck for bashing on Bright Eyes. I sure hope you arent actually paid to write the garbage that you post on here. Go back to the drawing board and listen to Simple Plan and Good Charlotte in the background while youre at it. What an ignorant, dumbfuck you are, Tom Sykes.

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ok i totally agree with the fact this these people are fucking lame. i hope you all fucking die. this man is a genious and for you to put him down...i ask why? because youre so used to your shitty ass music. well fuck you

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all you stupid fucks are such haters. its so pathetic how ignorant and narrow-minded you people are. not liking a type of music is one thing, but an all out Oberst bash? How fucking sad is that? Grow up and question yourself. Nobody gives a rats ass if you dont like the music. Its anothing thing to put down and mock artists. Oberst is a prodigy who'll be around for a while. whether you notice it or not. his music is authentic and original. Tom Sykes, you are a stupid fuck for bashing on Bright Eyes. I sure hope you arent actually paid to write the garbage that you post on here. Go back to the drawing board and listen to Simple Plan and Good Charlotte in the background while youre at it. What an ignorant, dumbfuck you are, Tom Sykes.

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after i was conned by the critical praise heaped on 'lifted...' it's quite satisfying to have an article like this. i can print it out and read it as a sermon while i burn the CD on a little pyre. so teejayallbadly, i think it is you who is ignorant dumbfuck, yes! and tom sykes, i doff my cap, or i will when i get one.

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Don't have much to say, Tom pretty much summed it up...but I do take this article as criticism to me and to everyone who celebrates great musicianship, lyrics, and ingenuity. I like his music, I can identify with it more than that made-for-mtv punk-pop shit that everyone loves so much nowadays. Conor's not a sellout like most bands...he does what he feels and doesn't care, or, in his words "I do not read the reviews. No, I am not doing this for you." You don't have to listen to him anyway so why waster your time complaining about him? Give the guy a break. Jenn.

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FOR CHRISSAKES!!!!

Can't we even bitch in peace????

teejayallbadly, you leave me no option but to hate you viciously.

I'm fed up of people wqho do the whole "oh you're so fucking narrow minded" thing whenever someone says an artist is crap. for fiuck's sakes....it was an article about NOT liking Conor Oberst, ok?!?!? so if you DO like him....you have two options.

1) Suggest to us why we should give him a second chance. suggest to us why you think we're mistaken in our judgements. Instead of just saying "oh you're so narrow minded" or "he's a prodigy" because WE'LL IGNORE YOU or FUCKING HATE YOU!

2) FUCK OFF, IGNORE THE ARTICLE AND LEAVE US TO BITCH IN PEACE!!!!

Let me ask you this....ever had a conversation with a friend about how much an artist SUCKS????? yeah????? well, i guarantee that if some stranger came up and said "oh look, you're being, like, sooooo narrow minded, you hate-filled ignoramuses, the guy's a prodigy" then you'd think they were a FLIPPIN' WANKER, right????? so now have a look at yourself, teejayallbadly.

if you don't like what's on this site then either ignore it, or try and persuade us properly.

fuckwit.

nerrr, nerr, ni-nerr-nerrr.

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wow, i cant believe how much ridiculous hatred you stupid fucks have. its unbelievable to me how you hate the guy so personally. as if he went out of his way to inflict some sort of pain on you. you have no arguement jester. let me say this clearer since you obviously cant understand normal english: i have no problem with the expression of thought towards someone's music...ITS when articles personally bash on the artist's style and talent. let tell you at least one thing that is true in this music business: there is room for everything. sure you can bitch about how his music sucks. i dont give a fuck. but when there are dumbasses out there like sykes who hate on artists just because they can, i just find it childish and irresponsible. i have no idea why you took this article so personally, jesta...this was in no way directed to you or "normal" haters of oberst. just the idiot who wrote the article. So please, take your own advice, and let me bitch in peace...or else, youre just another hypocrite, but arent we all.

ps: fuck you.

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using phrases like "you stupid fucks" is indicative of far more hatred than most on this thread have expressed, even if you do a little back-shuffle further on.

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oh goddammit....just wrote a nice big rant......and accidentally went back a page and lost it all. wahey.

basicall, what i was saying was that.....you're trying to say that the guy was wrong to write the article in some way by saying he's childish etc, and you pretty much say that having a go at an artists style or talent is wrong. err....why?!?!? first of all, bitching on style is fiiiiine, you probably do it the whole time yourself, about popstars and punters alike. second, i think the point is it's *lack of* talent we're talking about here...

basically, he can write whatever the fuck he likes. if you've got a different opinin, then air it. if someone's got the facts worong, correct them. but please oh please don't try and claim that the *shouldn't* be writing such articles, as if they're breaking some moral code or something. And as for all the crap people like you come up with like "you're just jealous" or "your soo childish, man" or any of that kinda crap...it's all window-dressing. meaningless crap, designed to get around the fact that THEY JUST DON'T HOLD YOUR OPINIONS!!!!!

The guy can write what he likes, end of story. there's no 'right' way of writing the articles, there are no aspects of an artist you should avoid in discussion....you gonna try and stop us writing about people's haircuts next?!? don't deny us that luxury, please!!

maybe you think the guy's a dick for writing the article. Fine!! who cares?? doubt he cares bout your opinion. so just say "Hey! Shit article! You're a dickhead!"....don't try and say how *bad* and *wrong* it is to write that kinda article. Betcha you'd be happily cheering on the author if a near-identical article was written about someone you didnt like. but let's not start on the whole hypocite thing, yeah?!?! there's a vicious circle waiting to happen there. suffice to say, in the childish manner you've bestowed upon me...you started it!

oops...acidentally made this one longer than the first.

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this is going nowhere fast. you are right at least about that. fair enough. nothing frustrates me more than to see "bands" like good charlotte on mtv, for example...and how they are "on top" in their genre of music, while on the other hand seeing articles bashing on music with substance and passion. i think this was my point. i admit i got overzealous, but there is no way in hell im taking back certain things i said about mr. sykes. like you implied...he can say his about oberst...and i can say mine about him. maybe next time i'll be a little bit more civil about my opinions. "Hey! Shit article! You're a dickhead!"....nuff said. im over it. i just wonder if he has bashed on elliott smith like he did on oberst...and if thats the case, this guy sykes can go to hell. doesnt hurt to butt heads with fellow e-posters such as yourself, good times. i have nothing more to say on this subject. its way beyond stale.

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Jesta, I agree that everyone has a right to their opinions. However, here it what is wrong with your post:

The writer of this article states that many people claim that if he doesn't like bright eyes, then he shouldn't buy the album. He then goes on to say that basically, that isn't good enough and it just shouldn't exsist. so for you to defend this article by saying we should just ignore it, makes you a hypocrite. or retarded. i'm not sure which. then you say you should be aloud to bitch in peace, when the whole point of this article is that conor oberst bitches too much. so i'm glad that you hate me. because if i got the chance, i'd stab you in the jaw. so it all works out.


as for the article itself, i think it's stupid. if it was simply an article about why he doesn't like conor oberst, that would be one thing. however, many of the points he makes are in fact narrow minded. people aren't just saying that because they don't have anything better to say.

you know who hates conor oberst's fame the most? conor oberst. he has repeatedly said that he doesn't like the kind of fame he's getting. as for him being soley a whiny bitch, a lot of his writing is symbolic. for example, padraic my prince is not about baby's drowning but about the consequences of neglect.

as for the point made that people stop listening to depressing songs when they realize the truth about the world... i don't even know how to respond to that other then to say you are stupid. the world does suck, whether you want to admit it or not. now people can either address that fact and try to fix it, address it and sob over it, or ignore the bad and focus on the good and live in your pretty little world where bad things don't happen until one day you get stabbed in a dark alley because you naively think that no one would be lurking just waiting for some sap to walk by and be stabbed.


clearly i'm going off on quite the tangent, but i'm having fun so i'm going to keep going. now, you state that by making sad music, he is encourging kids to stay sad and that he should instead write happy music to cheer then up. well, i'm not a happy person. and i like not being happy. so does that then mean i am happy in my unihappiness? that's not the point. the point is that i enjoy listening to this type pf music, and if i had to listen to some cheery backstreet boy bullshit and i'd shove sharp objects in my ears and puke blood.

the point i hate the most that you foolishly made is that you think it's ok for him to make music, but he shouldn't be arrogant enough to share it with the world. so then i guess every musician must be arrgoant, because that's pretty much the point of their exsistence. HOW DARE LED ZEPPELIN PRODUCE HOUSES OF THE HOLY! THOSE ARRGOANT BASTARDS! DO YOU THINK WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT ROBERT PLANT HAS TO SAY?

GOD CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT BEETHOVEN ACTUALLY WENT PUBLIC WITH HIS COMPOSITIONS? WHAT A PRICK! "LOOK AT ME, I'M DEAF AND I COMPOSED BEAUTIFUL MASTERPIECES, I'M SO FULL OF MYSELF I ACTUALLY WANT TO SHARE MY WORK WITH OTHERS. MEEEEEHHHHHHH".

that's my impression of you in case you couldn't tell. i guess that sentiment reigns true for everyone. how dare writers publish books? how dare politicians say their stance on the issues? like i care whether or not the preseident is for or against abortion. he should keep his damn opinion to himself.

but then if that's all true, what are you doing posting this poorly written article?

yeah, he writes a lot of songs about how being dumped sucks. that is pretty stupid of him, isn't it? i love getting my heart broken. it makes me think of kittens and rainbows, not whiskey. so therefore his feelings must be invalid. especially seeing as no other songwriter has ever written about love. ever. so it makes sense for you to single out conor oberst.

in conclusion, i love conor oberst's work. yes, he is beautiful, but elliot smith was ugly as sin and i love his work too. so there goes that theory. the fact that you don't like conor is fine with me, but if you must hate him, then don't be so retarded about the reasons.

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PS matt,

I was a vodka drinking cunt way before i heard of conor oberst. so there goes the whole "he turns people into that" thing.

lmfao!

Right on!!! NamelessHere4everMore - You are fabulous! There are too many parts of your post that I agree with for me to quote and agree on; so I shall just wholly second such an opinion and take my hat off to you!!


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your a fuckin douchbag

for conor

whats the big deal? when it was kurt cobain he was all the rage, and still is. the only difference is conor hasnt killed himself and can still speak his heart. thats the whole point of artist writting their music to tell their feelings . if your fucking sick of it dont listen to. simple as that matt!

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you fools who criticize emotion are the reason that this concrete continent is such a fucking mess of dehumanizing machinery. im sad because of you.

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Jeez... look at all the overreactions to my lighthearted post of several months ago.

If you genuinely like the guy then fair enough... I just found the article amusing in a bitchy sort of way.

As for my views on bright eyes being 'the reason that this concrete continent is such a fucking mess of dehumanizing machinery'... get a fucking grip. I have no issue with emotion... infact theres a lot of emotional music I love. It just doesn't happen to be described as 'emo'. urgh. Bright eyes emotion makes me cringe because it seems fake, overdone, whiny, and that stops it having a genuine emotional impact for me. I can't get beyond the irritation of his vocal style. Its a personal thing. When emotion comes in more subtle and genuine forms I find it a lot more effective.

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the (only) problem i have with this article is that it can basically be summarised as thus: "i don't like bright eyes because his songs are sad." if you want to tear the guy limb-from-limb, that's fine. it just seems that the criticisms are neither particularly new, nor insightful. in which case, it's not really something that people should get too uptight about...

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i think it is his vocal style that make the music genuine...his shouts, whispers, and trembling all seem to convey the true emotional connection he has in each song...

if you don't like the way he sings then fair enough...
but to claim his music isn't heartfelt and genuine seems completely irrational...


And what music do you find a more subtle and genuine form of emotion...??
i'm curious...
i don't think there's much more sincerity than in Oberst's songs...

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first of all...he does have the right to write any music he wants, whether its just complaining and full of derpressing images...
Rap artists these days use bad language so often maybe they should all be taken off the radio...but rappers like eminem aren't being taken off, they're just getting more popular...so i suppose if vulgar music like that can be promoted then it is only fair to allow every musician to create whatever music they want.
And you can say he shouldn't allow his music to enter the public...but you can say that about any other music as well...every musician has the right to distribute his music as he wishes...and if he's not good enough obviously he will fail...but Oberst is clearly talented, and is able to connect with his audiences, despite a somewhat shaky voice and whatever other shortcomings you ranted about earlier...but somehow his music has become widespread and popular so it seems that he has been successful...and he really isn't interested in the commercial aspect of the music industry...and he should be applauded for not selling out like so many other artists have...he has actually criticized the commercial artists and Clear Channel for the destruction of indie music and promotion of the punk pop bands like good charlotte and shit like that...
If he wants to write songs about how sad he is then let him...those are his feelings and thoughts and if thats how he wants to express them then that's fine...and if people want to listen to "depressing" music then that's fine too...
The bottom line is he is a talented musician...maybe he is a whiney, negative emo boy...and maybe he isn't the most talented musician vocally...but he is an incredible lyricist, although you may not care for his subjects, and he is talented instrumentalist...
And if you don't like that it is slowly filtering into the mainstream music cycle...then don't listen to it...i know you claim that's not possible...but i think you're wrong...
just like when some stupid eminem shit comes on...i change the station...simple as that...
so tom sykes...if you don't like it then don't listen to it...and just allow others who respect and enjoy the music to continue to do just that!

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You people can fuck off. People are allowed expressing their opinion and if you can't learn that then you are ignorant. Popularity doesn't matter. Some people have a lot to learn.
Rock on Conor Oberst! \m/
These people are fuck-offs.

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Conor Oberst is a musical genius. So what if he sings about his experiences in life. He's not whining. He's expressing his emotions just like any other artist. You people are just ignorant. You don't understand Oberst. You have no fucking clue. If you had someone close to you who was suicidal or depressed or if you were depressed you would understand. You're just being stupid. You don't understand life if you don't understand Conor.

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This again! heh

Oh get a sense of humour. I've been depressed and known people who are depressed and suicidal - my opinions on bright eyes music remain the same. I'm sorry but I find his exaggerated over-the-top 'I'm just about to start crying' voice phony and irritating a lot of the time. It does not sound even slightly sincere to me. Maybe it is sincere, maybe it isn't, but as he's releasing music to the world, I'm entitled to judge the music on it's musical merits, the way it sounds. And it sounds horribly exaggerated and insincere to me.

But you like it and that's okay - just don't presume that everyone will, or that those who don't somehow 'arent getting it', as that's bullshit. You'll probably come to the same conclusion yourself once you outgrow your, ooh, what is it, 13-year-old angst ?

Nuff said.

Re: Sick Of Conor Oberst

Conor is one of the most expresive artists of our generation. You people should be honored to have him as a singer/songwriter of your time. Who cares what he sings about. He's just trying to get his feelings off his chest. It probably makes him feel better. And the way he sings ("I wanna cry" voice), he most likely does wanna cry. So all of you, just back off and stop talking shit about Conor. You don't even know why he does the things he does.

Re: Sick Of Conor Oberst

to be fair, this article was written when Conor was shit.

now, however, he's really good.

strange how that happened...

Re: Sick Of Conor Oberst

Hmm, yes I heard a happy bright eyes song the other week! I was very surprised. He still over-does the 'I'm about to crack up any minute' vocals though.

Re: Sick Of Conor Oberst

I am so glad too have found this item this morning. I have too agree with The writer. He whines way too much, and the little depressed kids of america love him..they think he's hot and wonderful and the best thing since sliced bread.

But you don't know ONE thing about him other than how pretty his images are and how much he wails about dying love like he had a sharp, splintered bamboo shoot stuck up his bum. I read articles about fans in their blogs who lay in bed at night and cry listening too BE songs. Oh make us all spank ourselves with a leather whip.

I speak from a personal experience when i say he's a freaking jerk..girls don't leave him, he screws them over, or fucks them and moves on too the next one. He's a chronic loser, cheating on all the things he supposedly cares about, idolizes people who kill themselves (like dear elliott smith) He doesn't give a damn about fans..he doesn't want anyone too know what he really is about or who he really is, he's a freaking hypocritical loser EMO poser..he's not emo. He just wants too be something..anything!

Then again on the Brighter side of all this I can see why he is adored by so many girls who haven't lost their virginity yet, or haven't learnt what a joy masterbation truly is...there are better things too do in bed at night than cry too bright eyes lyrics and put yourself in a depressional and emotional coma that lasts for days. I never knew sadness w