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by smilingcrazylady

I need advice.

We're not allowed to accept gifts from suppliers because that's practically bribery. Anything they do give us has to go in a central raffle type thing and anyone in the office can win it which is fine when it's champagne or chocolates or something. My suppliers just given me a Nano, I don't want to put it in the raffle :o(

What would you do?

smilingcrazylady | 14 Dec '05, 10:52 | Send note | Report this | Reply

well you have an i-pod

and I don't so as we're neighbours and hopefully friends.......


eeeeeeebbbbbaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy

But then I have no morals.


keep it

just hide it until after christmas and then claim that it was a present from a distant aunt/mysterious benefactor.


yes keep it and then sell me yr i-pod as I'm desperate

as you can tell from this thread.


Keep it!

You have no choice really!


Cool

I'm glad you're all immoral fiends. I was thinking bout giving it to my Dad actually, he'd really like it.


No! Sell it to him

you know what its like for money after xmas!


I'd put it in the raffle

But that's just me.


actually if it was me I stamp on it

so no one could have it, but them I'm a spoilt bastard.


you are a gay

lk srsly


Laughable

You buy shite and sell it on to people at Christmas, disappointing children all over the country; how the fuck can you talk about morals?


good to see you've got a healthy christmas spirit mr traynor

now please tell me, how was that post constructive in any way?


That's

right isn't it Traynor, stocking a shop with toys is just plain wrong. Why don't you concentrate on getting yourself a job, and then maybe you'll be in a position to criticise others?


raffle it

if you want one it is saveable up for by not drinking for a while, unless that just means I drink too much.

Also you will feel better, and you may win it due to mysterious karmic operations.

If such operations do in fact exist, Mr Traynor is due one hell of a lot of insults.


Cunt

"Why don't you concentrate on getting yourself a job, and then maybe you'll be in a position to criticise others?" What a cunt!


Glad

to be of service. Now get yourself down to the Job Centre like a good little paedophile, and stop your moaning.


"cunt!"

that's a coincidence, i was thinking the same thing, john.

only not about bamos...


Cunt = Traynor


Did

I tell you I love you?!!!!


Who? Traynor?

Like it when he treats you bad, huh? :)


Yeah Traynor

really contributing to the greater good aren't you?

Tell me, are you actually trying to get a job or just sitting around claiming benefits whilst posting bollocks on the internet all day?

You really are a prize fuckwit.


Nasty right-wing bastards

This board is infested with poeple who really should only be responded to physically.


oh dear, oh dear

you have two modes of attack don't you?

1) "You're a right-wing bastard

2) Some poor adaptation of a username incorporating an expletive.

Your novelty factor has been exhausted. Have you not noticed how less and less people defend you, as your true colours are revealed more and more?

Go away.


I quite

liked Simplecrazedlooney and Duncey, they were inspired!


pfft, yeah

inspired by a tepid, lazy, festering mind.

"voiceofthewanker" on the other hand...that was the work of a genius.


mr traynor

why are darcy and scl right wing?

they have done nothing to suggest that they are this way politically inclined, so i don't understand the origins of your insult?


I think he means that she works for a consumer outlet

and thus is a cog in the capitalist economy the flavour of which is not in humans favour, but rather self serving of investment returns, along the way not providing what people really need but what they are encouraged to want byt a rather vacuuous advertising industry.......unfortunately his argument falls down in that he is also a cog, albeit if unemployed a cog that is disengaged and not oing round, hoowever he is like me ineffective at realigning the course of the human worlds 'progress and s....I too am a cog, a corporate drone....I wanted to be an activist but I do not have the abilities/resources, I could have planned from when I was young, but I didnt cos I had other emotional needs at the time (none involved materialism) however Idid not have the foresight to get myself into a position to turn things round....why because I am human......most humans are caught up and enthralled and entrapped byt the consumerist society because there is no escape, it will not allow you to be independant of it, it will use force if necessary......the only way to escape it is to attain so much of its rewards (money) that it will allow you to live in a bubble created by the wealth.....it will not allow you to live a good clean life unencumbered by plastic, regulation burocracy.
John Traynor you are indeed right in this respect that SCL is right wing, but then again so am i so are we all so are You COMRADE, where is your revolution huh? every minute you sit in your comfy chair listening to a plastic recording device manufactured in a capitalist factory with your 'fancy' headphones rather than working towards human liberation from the system that oppresses us makes you complicit.....as indeed am i, as indeed are most people........because we are human, the system is used to handling us and our facets.....we are not evil.....(you may counter that your luxories are small and low maintainance ....music/live gigs...people doing things not possessions......but that is waht is so wierd......why do you hate SCL so she is also heavily involved in enabling 'live' performance/events....less consumerist entertainment than say sitting in watching sky movies....................and another thing....to someone without enough food/clean water or fearing for their lives every day, your small footprint entertainment of music would sem like a totally superflous luxory.

John Im having a go at you cos since we are all 'guilty' of what you accuse SCL, the very fact that you just pick on her makes what you say to her 'a deliberate unwarented attack.

Plus I think shes lovely


...

SCL is a 'dissapointer of children' ... what a GREAT insult. Traynor once called me an 'affront to democracy' which i enjoyed greatly.


.

Traynor hates SCL because she lives under a political system that he opposes.
How absurd is that? Does Traynor hate all political asylum seekers?


wut?

SCL is a political asylum seeker/finder?
.......
Another point Mr JDT, I have never begrudged my numerous close freinds that have been commited dolites in the past, although I would often resort to retaliate when I would be accused for always working.....I would defend peoples right to not work, up to a point but if you are recieving dole then it does make it dificult to preach.....I myself had considered not working for others interest, but I could not countenance the idea of me claiming the dole when I could work and when other workers who were not as socially/economically mobile as me would then have to support me. Of course the same would be true if you aquired unearnt/undeserved wealth by other means....that is also often brought of the backs of less fortunates.
But there is very rarely a case of 'black and white' in this type of argument (although some people do seeem to ooze evil from every pore)


Wrong

My comments about SCL's job were merely an aside. I don't begrudge her having a successful career; buying products in shops is optional.

It is clear that I objected to the comment about unemployed people and nasty perceptions of them.


I'd keep it

And feel guilty... but only for about ten minutes. The only real question is do you reckon your colleagues would do the same?


I don't think I'd feel guilty about it

But I'd be concerned about being found out.


I've got

a mini already. I'd pass it on or sell it... I think one of the other buyers will get one this afternoon, might wait and see how moral she is!


That

sounds like a plan!


put it on your tongue

and watch it dissolve.


Is that your chat-up line?

I like it...


I keep saying I'll buy it SCL

To be fair non of us have any morals apart from Jonny Trainers


No

my chat up line is "Hello. Do you like sex?"


Nice line

Get's rid of all the sex haters without the whole buying drinks/small talk buildup.


I hate

chatting someone up for ages then you find out they don't like sex.


IMO

put it in the raffle. Ain't worth the grief.


flog it on ebay

give the money to cheridee.

and then refuse to take any more orders off that supplier lest your impartial status be compromised.


^^^^^^

sly, very sly.


as a fox mate

as a fox


Chuck

it in the raffle, their moody anyway


Put it in the raffle

then hopefully, with karma for your honesty, you'll win!


Chyah

Like that's gonna work!


Get this for annoying

My girlfriend has bought me a little 1gb Creative MP3 player. It's what I asked for. I really wanted it. Then on the weekend, my brother-in-Japan emails me. "Do you want me to bring you anything back at Christmas time? They sell 2gb Nanos for about £50 out here".

Fifty Quid!

I think I'm gonna ask him for a digital camera to make me feel better about myself.


ask him for

a tiny robot that will fit in your pocket yet can destroy your enemies using mind control.

i hear the japanese are into that sort of thing.


you

have just been OWNED by Sod's Law!


I KNOW!

Is it totally immoral for me to ask him for 3, and then stick them on eBay? I'll ask John D 'Moral Authority' Trainers.


good plan

JDT is a fountian of morality, go bathe in his pure waters of honesty and you will know what to do.


Speaking of Trainers

I'm gonna get some badass Converse from Japan. I'm looking for these pinstripe ones I found once, they're ace.


You

can comfort yourself with all these stories about how easy to scratch and break Nanos are.


True,

but for £50 I'd happily play tennis with it really.


You'd

lose


bump

i agree with traynor SO much more than i did a year ago. it's funny as fuck. what a difference a year makes when you're only 20.


Care to explain

further..?


He thinks

you're a simple thicko who disappoints children for fun.

Clear now?


This is true

Thanks for clarifying it Bam Bam.


when a man's filled with anti-capitalist rage

he's filled with anti-capitalist rage, dammit! and any ladies that stand in his way, whether smiling and crazy or not, shall be MOWN DOWN


i.e.

i don't like traynor's attack on you but i get why he's angry


Oh no

he hates me coz I upset him in other ways.

The capitalist in me was something to rant about afterwards.


oh :-(

i am disappointed in him now


Sorry

The outcome of the ipod was that it get lent to anyone who wanted it in the office and then it got nicked off someones desk. Feels like the right outcome.


it really does actually

after all that wrangling! it makes a body want to LOL


hey

I don't remember typing my response. What a good suggestion. Aren't I clever?

Yes I am. Or was. Am I stupider than I was then? How could I possibly know?


I';ve just noticed

my response to Traynor in this thread as well. I made myself giggle, almost a year later. Nice work, Last Year bamos.


you nasty right wing bastard you

right wing wasn't really the right term.


it was nasty wasn't it?

I think I'd had enough of him being a cunt to my friend, so leapt in like a gallant...salmon. Or something else that leaps. I dunno.


thing is

i can see what he was getting at as well - cos i mean why is a person only valuable or allowed an opinion if he's working? and how useful is your job at the dental journal to humanity, really?


I refuse point blank

to even enter into this debate with you. Sorry!


no worries

it could turn bad


because if he isnt working

he is living off the work of others.

bamos' work might not be valuable in any wider sense, but at least he is working for his own living rather than mooching off others.


retro five!

*click*


uh oh..


Mr Traynor have you got an ipod?

or other mp3 device?
What headphones are those.
Please also see my post about your attack on SCL further up this thread


you know this discussion

is almost a year old?

I think we're all "over" it.


blimey....so it is

I never noticed that I though it was a new one......sorry....it wasnt me that resurrected it.
Sorry everyone sorry SCL sorry JDT


<ahem>

"Sorry zxcvbnm"??


*ahem*


no Im not sorry to you zxcvbnm

your's is the class that gains most benefit from the consumerist/capitalist system.

You sit there at your 'Polished' Dining table with 'seating for 8' your poncey middle class white napkins in napkin rings throwing dinner parties for your deviant primates


have you decided what your doing yet?

personally I think you should nab it


alright it's a resurrected thread

oops, what did she decide?