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The Rinser #2: Who They Aping Now?

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by The Rinser
Can you hear that? The sound of empty promises and repetitive monotony. Well it’s 2003 and despite all those pledges of something new, majestic and utterly innovative, we’re stuck with the same old guitar bashing, tight t-shirt wearing, hair wankers that we’ve always had. You can picture it, can’t you? White middle class student types jerking off to yet another band who claim to be ‘for real’. They’ve managed to spell the word revolution correctly but can’t make it to the anti-war march ‘cos Tarquin’s having a birthday bash at the country club. Those rumours of a new urban, hip hop, beat infested direction has been quelled for now, the support tour with The So Hot Right Nows has been booked and the job is nearly done. But before these petty, irrelevant, talent-less rawk! oiks offend another generation of dying to be different doorstep dwellers let’s remind ourselves the pecking order. In short who are your momentary idols aping?

InMe – Well apart from the fucking obvious Kurt Cobain worship, can you still be cool if your favourite band sounds like Silverchair? Didn’t think so. See also Reuben, Vex Red.

Miss Black America – Again by now you should have all alphabetically arranged your Manic Street Preachers records and written some really deep poetry when Joe Strummer died. File with Kinesis, Smother and pretty much every band out of Cambridge.

The Cooper Temple Clause – It has nothing to do with Warp Records and everything to do with Sonic Youth and Jesus and the bloody Mary Chain.

Interpol – Joy Division were miserable because they came from Manchester, Interpol are miserable because one of their brothers is an NME staffer.

The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster – David Yow was in a band called the Jesus Lizard. This is what they would sound like if they were deaf. And you thought the word ‘psychosis’ was cool.

The Coral – Frank Zappa didn’t come from Liverpool. Thank god.

Hundred Reasons – Why on earth when you aspire to sound like Braid, Cap n Jazz, Dag Nasty and Texas Is The Reason, do you end up sounding like this? Is it because those nasty, baseball cap wearing, =emo= kids made fun of your sub Jade Tree, Deep Elm, Vagrant squandering nonsense?

Cat On Form – For god’s sake they sound like Fugazi. Call Dischord and ask for the catalogue back.

Winnebago Deal – Mudhoney were cool. Back in 1989.

Colour of Fire – When you play jagged guitar pop, it’s cool to say you like Sonic Youth. You don’t. You liked Idlewild’s ‘Captain’. And Brian Molko’s hairdresser.

The list is endless…
Please feel free to add your own where applicable. Remember this is not to patronise, just to help you when the great big world is splurging the same crap to a different generation. And it’ll keep happening until someone stands up and says excuse me mister boss man, can I have my quarter back because you peddled this same rubbish to me last week. Music is not about reinventing the wheel, it’s about ignoring the bloody thing and coming up with something that is sooo much better that people will be forced to stop selling you the same model. First one to do so gets a high five.



The Rinser #2: Who They Aping Now?

Another wonderfully pointless article. Well done.

Of course all music is just a rehash of what came before; art is, books are. Shit, even life is. I'm not denying that some of the bands you lampoon are complete copyists (step forward Interpol) or are shite (step forward InMe) but the majority are bringing something else to the table, building on the past. That's what always happens.

'Music is not about reinventing the wheel, it’s about ignoring the bloody thing and coming up with something that is sooo much better that people will be forced to stop selling you the same model'.
Name one band that has EVER done that. You can't, because no one ever has. Not Frank Zappa, not Captain Beefheart (who Zappa surely copied), not Love, not Hendrix. Shit, not even Bach.

Silly argument, which attempts to reduce modern music to a carbon copy of the past which is obviously not true.

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Q: Who are Interpol copying?

A: If you say Joy Division I think I might throw up. If you ignore journalists and use your own ears (& intelligence), you will realise that they don't sound like Joy Division! Paul Banks' style may bear some resemblance to Ian Curtis but musically thay are very different bands.

Interpol write great songs and in todays musical climate, that's about as mush as you can ask a guitar band. Name me a guitar band who are doing something original today and I will rush out and buy it! I'd be overjoyed to hear them....

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'Name me a guitar band who are doing something original today and I will rush out and buy it! I'd be overjoyed to hear them....'
If you read my post, that's exactly what i was saying NO ONE has ever done anything original.

And the interpol thing; i love interpol but i also love Joy Division and the two do have similat sounds, certainly in terms of the clastrophobic atmosphere of the music and the cool basslines.
Of course they are different; as i said earlier, bands build on their the past to produce something new.

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My question was rhetorical... it seems we agree on most things although Carlos Dengler is WAY more John Taylor than he is Peter Hook....

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"Name me a guitar band who are doing something original today and I will rush out and buy it! I'd be overjoyed to hear them...."

the House Of Stairs compilation LP is out right now ;)

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Hey, come on now, you'll give SY and the Mary Chain a bad name..


Ape Salute

some additions

Mclusky sound like Big Black, the whole steve albini anger thing pinned down

All of Nu-metal is copieing different Faith No More Songs basically, cos no one can sing as well and varied as Mike Patton

And obviously The Stooges are pretty popular at the moment, doesnt really bear mentioning

but this is always gonna be the case. this article is interesting and thus good, but being so cynical isnt healthy. neither is being naeive that your favourite saviours of everything are totally original.

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Three cheers for the anti-rawk fightback on drowned in sound! Keep it up guys, don't be silenced

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ian curtis is dead.
therefore i can't go to a joy division gig.
no matter how much interpol sound like joy division, they are all alive, perform their enjoyable music entertainingly and make me happy.
they are by no means my favourite band that you thought you'd have a cheap shot at, but still a good band

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The problem with the British is they constantly demand novelty over talent or ability.

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i'm as much at odds with that mindset as absolutely anyone in the country. i still found interpol deathly fucking dull at reading though. ho hum..

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lol, there are plenty of original guitar bands around!!

Mars Volta, Oceansize (Yeh, some of their earlier stuff is Radiohead-ish) and Opeth... to name but a few.