1. That bit about twelve minutes into the second CD of Lift Yr Skinny Fists by Godspeed You! Black Emporer
2. The last minute of A Poor Man's Memory by Explosions in the Sky.
3. The really intense bits of Await Rescue by 65daysofstatic
4. About 6 minutes into the last track of the Red Sparowes album: "The sixth extinction crept up slowly, like sunlight through the shutters, as we looked back in regret."
5. All of Glasgow=-Mega Snake by Mogwai.
:D Post-rock as a genre is just generally quite entertaining.
I could make threads like this all day.
how can a whole song be climaxes?
that doesnt make sense does it?
'argumentative'
Exhibit J
Glosoli
By none other than sigur ros
Oh I see
well ok
I'm stretching it with Glasgow Mega-Snake, but its like a loud bit that lasts for the entire song
it's gotta be
the bit on Helicon 1 where it builds up and up and up before the final crash with distortion.
oh yes.
And then
It goes all quiet again. Magic. It was that track that convinced me for a brief time in 1998 that Mogwai were the best band ever. Then I bought Come on Die Young.
It's becoming
a bit like the trance snare-roll really, in't it?
the bit just after the first spoken word part on blaise bailey finnegan by godspeed you! black emperor.
has to be
the end of Untitled 8
Euphoric Breakdowns
maaaaaaaaan
*white gloves*
*glow sticks*
*whistle*
wut
about that bit in 'halcyon' by mono where you're like "oh, this is a lovely little tune but i can't hear it, let's turn it up a bit" and then it goes *CHUMMMMM* and it's all just beautiful, even though you soiled yourself.
the very subtle
chord change in Tarentel's 'For Carl Sagan'. After 12 minutes of building up and up and up. It seemed really anti-climatic the first time I heard it; it's now one of my favourite moments in any piece of music.
Plenty of GY!BE too.
All very different, but climactic in their own way
1) Slint - Good Morning Captain
2) Mogwai Fear Satan
3) Dirty Three - Lullabye for Christy
4) Do Make Say Think - Outer And Inner Secret
5) Mum - Once a Shiny Morning Puddle
whaaaat?
How can it possibly not be the last minutes of Good Morning Captain by Slint? A beautifully heavy climax to the whole album. They created the genre and made it meaningless at the same time. No-one else came close.
GYBE? Please.
if slint are post-rock...
are shellac?
i'm thinking about "Mama Gina" and it's soundalikes.
I don't could Shellac.
Too much singing. Too much like songs.
Post-rock doesn't really have songs in that explicit way, does it?
I know Slint has vocals in, but it is different somehow.
*count Shellac
obviously not all Shellac
but something like "Mama Gina" is so much like Slint...
because personally i wouldn't call Slint post-rock, really: they're barely anything like Mogwai, GYBE, EITS, etc.
for me, anyway.
I'm not quite sure
how you can say Mogwai don't sound like Slint, early stuff at least. You're joking right? Like Herod was named by the band as Like Slint whilst they were writing it.
Mogwai are the most similar to Slint out of the bands that are generally lumped into 'post-rock'
but i don't exactly confuse the two when i hear them.
to me Slint seem less deliberate with the whole 'build up to a climax' thing, they sound a bit more natural.
Sure
Everything Slint did was wonderfully paced, perfect really. I can only really listen to them, and their off-shoots, and Mogwai of the bands mentioned so far. I don't count Shellac. They rock-rock.
how do you differentiate
between "Good Morning Captain" and "Mama Gina" though?
same dynamics, really.
that said, i haven't listened to either in ages.
I'll have to re-listen it
I'm not great on names of Shellac songs.
Track 3 on 1000 Hurts I think
He says the words "mama gina" a lot in it.
that would be the one.
i've got in on now, the vocals only start 3 minutes in and it's just the last 40 seconds odd that 'rocks out'.
it's so much like Good Morning Captain.
Damnit
*I will have to listen to it again.
I hate on the tube the way the driver say "This train is non-stopping at this station."
post-rock is a word used by dillitantes and heartless manipulators
Hang on that was punk-rock. But same thing. It's just a label.
Not that post-rock existed when it happened but it has to be the original moment - Good Morning Captain by Slint. Actually for the sake of flippant argument, I also proclaim this the most emo moment in musical history.
or just
the best moment ever (perhaps). I do adore that moment so much. I won't quote it because it'll lessen the moment itself, but I think you know what I mean. The screaming...
It was spine-tingling when they played it at ATP.
wow, yeah
I came back to London and bought tickets for the two Forum gigs straight away. A lot of people were negative about them, couldn't quite see how? The comeback was magical.
I was one of the detractors, I must admit.
I found the performance as a whole a little bloodless, like they were tense and over-practiced or something. Like listening the CD, except standing in a room watching some men standing stock still... not my idea of fun to be honest. But they moment was always going to be amazing.
I'm
gonna spend all day tomorrow listening to the tracks mentioned in this thread. It's going to be a good day...
and i just reached 'that moment'
:D
oh yes.
*that moment
doh.
wine.
I am
Just about to listen to Good Morning Captain for the first time after this thread.
hmm
I saw them at ATP and I was relatively smashed and in a fantastic atmosphere so that was great. But essentially identical to the recordings. I also went to the first day at the Forum and it was identical to ATP. I sat there bored. Their ATP weekend as a whole was shit as well. Basically spent £100 + (I got in half price to ATP) just to see Slint in the end. People probably paid much more than me. Bit of a waste of money.
Something I definitely needed to see though, and I'm glad they reformed to do it. I suppose if it was any different from the records then more people would have complained at that.
You are absolutely right
They could not have won either way. I loved it as I said. I got the impression that they played like that back in the day. And I don't agree it was sterile in any way.
I completely enjoyed the weekend as a whole actually
drifting around talking to people, drinking, interesting music, stoned and happy etc. Met some hot Icelanders. And the singer from Televsion Personalities. And old school friends. Played that futuistic table footie game. Walked by the sea. Played football at dawn in the snow. You know - ATP stuff.
ATP is always the music + more, getting drunk on the beach, making an idiot of yourself on the dancy arcade stuff, bizarre TV when you're hungover. Can't wait for the next one. I'm going to the Mudhoney/YYY/hippy one.
it probably wasn't the intention of the thread
but now i'm finding it hard to turn off the Shellac.
in the shape of a plane.....
Why has nobody mentioned...
New paths to helicon Pt 1 - Mogwai.
Maybe they have.
Whatever.
Because nobody else counts it as one of their top 5 favourite post-rock climaxes, of course.
up c down c
not of the fallen.
that bit were they step on the distortion pedals.
and of course gy!be on lift your skinny fists, as mentioned in the first post.
EITS
Everything they do.
Best band ever, innit.
And you can fuck off with all this 'post rock' shit.
Get a life.
yeah helicon 1 is great
But it isnt a climax (not in a crescendo sense) - it just happens. Four minutes of twinkle, one minute of immense noise.
To the guy who mentioned football on the beach at ATP - if its half decent weather at ATP weekend 1 I want to get a massive game of football on the beach organised - I played at one weekened where we had about 30 people - it was brilliant fun.
mine are
the heavy bit in Explosions in the Sky - Memorial
The heavy bit in Mono - The Flames Beyond The Cold Mountain
Mogwai - Helicon 1
the piano riff in Sigur Ros - Untitled 3
the piano riff and drums in 65dos - Radio Protector
lol
"And you can fuck off with all this 'post rock' shit.
Get a life."
Yeah, you word sayers! Say different words!
Losers!
po-faced climax
It's sad really that 'post rock' is now so synonymous with Mogwai/Godspeed etc soundwise that the phrase now means "quiet, quiet, quiet, really loud, cry" or something. Do people no longer count Tortoise, Bark Psychosis, etc as post rock cause they don't have distortion.
EITS are just fucking boring, like Godspeed stripped of any atmosphere.
I like..
3 minutes and 25 seconds into Convex, Concave by Biffy Clyro.
The "final" climax of I Swallowed Hard by 65DOS.
About halfway through Totally Natural by Trail O' Dead. You know the place.
EITS
aren't like Godspeed at all. At lest the last album's not. Their songs are structured totally differently and rely on different techniques to carry them.
65dos though: there's a band whose hype I really really don't get. So clumsy and contrived.
I'd agree
but they are supposed to be very good live.
theyre not.
IMO.
to me, 65dos are good electronica ruined by very very very generic, uninspired postrock.
EITS arent very godspeed are they? id sooner say dull mogwai.
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I've not actually heard much of EITS recent stuff but Those Who Tell The truth shall die... just sounded far more godspeed than mogwai, all the military snare rolls, slide guitar and distortionless crescendo stuff. I can see what you mean about the album after being more mogwai though. EITS make 'nice' music, means fuck all to me though.
good live:
MY ARSE! Dull as dishwater. Tedious drumming and very very tedious guitar playing.
...
This thread confirms what I've long suspected - any cunt can make a post-rock song. They just need to download the template.
i want one
where can i download it?
any cunt can make
any sort of song. But making a good post-rock song is as hard as making a good pop song.
That said, there are some truly awful bands who think owning a few distortion pedals makes them a post-rock band.
More bullshit is spoken about post-rock than any other genre too.
Look at this
It's incredible, they were so young
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Slint_band.jpg