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BBC Names New Talent For 2004
by Mike Diver
Posted: 05 Jan '04, 12:26
The BBC will publish a chart of the top new acts to watch out for in 2004 this Friday (9 January 2004).
The Beeb asked 60 "impartial opinion-formers", ranging from magazine editors to radio playlisters, to name their favourite new artists for the BBC News Online Sound of 2004 poll. The final results will be made public on Friday, but the coutdown started today, with the fifth-placed artist, soul singer Joss Stone, hailed as "the white Aretha Franklin".
50 Cent topped last year's list, which also included the likes of Dizzee Rascal, Sean Paul and The Thrills. Artists with a top 20 single already under their belts and contestants on TV talent shows were ruled out of the poll.
More information can be found here.
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BBC Names New Talent For 2004
Impartial Opinion-Formers? Do I really count as one of those...-
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Were you asked then?
What did you suggest?-
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think I suggested Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, and er, Saves the Day (just cus I'd only just got their new record in December, not sure if it's out properly here yet).-
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
I wonder if there's any unsigned bands in there? ...and I wonder if it's dominated by bands who have muscle and money behind them (i.e. safe bets)? BBC Radio (apart from the evergreen Peel) has fuck all credibility for me these days. The publishing of a chart (even if they consult such underground overlords as DiSDaddy :-) ) might indicate that these are the records that the BBC is going to back, but a chart in this way is just another committee decision, and will likely not feature as many love 'em or hate 'em bands as it should, but feature rather too many lowest common denominator bands. As we know from our own various charts, anomalies and omissions are all too common.
Good is a media as a chaotic sprawl of individuals championing their own preferences and peccadiloes. Bad is a media championing the uniform blanket of collective opinion.-
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Saves The Day!?
You bumsnogger.-
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Did you really pick Bloc Party?
HAd you heard the new Saves The Day record?
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Hmm. The worry was watching my nemeses on 'Grumpy Old Men'. Those who failed to become heroes became cynics? -
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
I would vote for The Shins. Franz Ferdinand will obviously be huge next year. -
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
saves the day, new talent?!-
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New to some people. Only just on a major, blah, blah... they only were first on at Reading. Depending on your context, Coldplay are still a new band, to some. I know they're on their second album, blah, blah, the white stripes were still a new band on their fourth record...-
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the difference is that Saves The Day are foookin awful!
"at your funeral... I will sing... thru my arse..."
fuck OFF you spotty do-gooder.-
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they might be 'fookin awful' but they have the potential to be very big now, especially as they're just on a major. They've been slogging away for years now with some fair success but they could easily be huge this year if they put the work in.-
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ChrisN,
I'm genuinely interested to know your saviours for the music world...I understand the issues for someone who is passionate about music when, if we are honest, even amongst the 'opinion-setters' such passion is in the minority. And how many bands actually inspire such passion. Again, they're in the minority!-
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i chose the delays :].
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BBC Names New Talent For 2004
TV on the Radio, The Fallout Trust, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand will do it in angular, Wire-y Poppy ways
Snow Patrol are gonna have a hit with "Run" or am I deaf. Keane are gonna have big hits and loads of them.
Straylight Run, My Chemical Romance, The Holiday Plan will do the post-hardcore bit. Notice they all actually have tunes!!! Distophia also great, but more Sonic Youth than emo-shmemo inspired.
Statistics album is amazing and yourcodenameis:milo will creap up on the outside later in the year if they record something as good as they are live. NME look like they're gonna get it all wrong (other than Franz Ferdinand) as The Ordinary Boys, My Red Cell, Kid Symphony, Neil's Children I mean do us a favour. All rubbish.-
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It's more structural. I would like to see a massive amount of de-centralisation of power in the industry, and in fact in most industries. Companies themselves need to be in it for the long haul, to employ the best staff they can find and then be prepared to stick with them. Record companies, but also Radio (think about the Radio 1 breakfast show) sack people on a whim. The way theings stand, companies don't tend to retain staff long enough to be flavoured by their tastes, and give the company any 'character', and instead the music world is full of employees trying to 'fit in' with whatever is perceived to be trendy, and led by professional managers who likely as not have no connection with music at all. I think this is more a British phenomenon than anything else. People are brought up to feel like perpetual underdogs, incapable of shaping their own futures... everybody, from the head of BBC Radio to the promoter of the Pig and Whistle in Notty Ash to the band with their new record deal to the kid wanging the guitar in their bedroom could do with the courage to follow their own convictions, dreams and beliefs.... and those of us who are passionate about music need the bottle to fight for it, to DO something, rather than just harp on from the sidelines. Everyone is a potential saviour.-
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Doublethink! Please gheck us out at www.doublethink.tk More attention should be given to unsigned bands who create scenes rather than over hyped shit bands trying to cash in on them. Please check us out. We don't really want to go to university -
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Best record: that one with them at a party the name of which I've totally forgotten but it has Holly Hox on it and Banned From The Back Porch and it's on Equal Vision and my head is foooking blank damnit.
Everything since = turd. I spent good money to go see them a couple o'years back in Manc... foookin' awful I tell you. I'd have gobbed on Chris' face if it weren't so hideous already.-
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So what are you DOING then.-
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The new album may be shocking but Stay What You Are and Through Being Cool are fantastic records.
However, they were on the Evening Sesh stage @ Reading 2003, and not the piddly emo tent like in 2002 and have always been on a 'major'.-
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Trying to pull myself out of a shitty mire of nihilism. The anger that lies beneath the words is mostly generated by looking in the mirror. -
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
I heard that Gut have picked up a metal band from Wales called The Wishinghour, and that they are supposed to be awesome. Anybody heard them? Cant find any of their stuff on Kazaa.-
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
London's still the place to look for bands breaking out in '04. metro riots, corporation:blend, nebraska - all brilliant in their own way, all unsigned and all overlooked. some things never change! -
BBC Names New Talent For 2004
What about bands like Degrassi, dead or american, jetplane landing, reuben, kinesis, pupkin, fickle public, sucioperro, jarcrew, distophia, span, copperpot journals, one inch volcano...some have a hell of a lot more star quality than others. But, i think they could be huge.-
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Apartment and sammy usa rocked the world when I saw 'em. Each have been on fierce panda now i think and both are amazing live. They are definites for ths year
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Careful with your last paragraph, NME's been doing horrifically fucking well at successfully bigging-up and overhyping all sorts of woeful ultra-ordinary mediocrity recently, haven't you read any of it since 2001?!?? ;)
(well...i can understand why if not...)
Not that i've read their comedy 2004 predictions (yet..eek..)- though those you mention at the end there look like the awful, unremarkable, anonymous sorts they were bigging up on their special 'new bands' site before xmas...ho fucking hum eh.....
mind, if i hear the current sleepwalk of a new Snow PAtrol single once more i think my head will seize up and I'll fall unconscious on the spot...of all the songs theyve done so far and _that_ gives em a hit? oh well...
But yeah - that fucking list thing - sure kids, keane franzzz ferdinand etc are gonna be (vaguely) big this year (for whichever arguable reasons), but it doesnt need a degree to work out that....fuck the obvious ones in the BBC Online poll and take notice of the ones you don't know much of, aren't signed, not released even a single proper yet, if we're to give it any importance......Dizzee stuck out like a sore thumb on last year's, with but a whitelabel to show of his own (exclusively own) talent. look at him now; you could see that coming, just cos it had to, purely on merit - not just as much cos, say, he was Eminem's protege (50cent, a failsafe choice), or had NME dribbling over them with the extra cachet of Morrissey-approval (Thrillzzzz). or whoever.. As for any mentioned in the entirety of this article's threads? hmm, little of note aside of a few i didnt know - what's the chance Wiley or Reuben get in the 10? certainly more worthy than most...
and as for those beginning to bleat elsewhere about "where are the unsigned ppl in the list etc" and laying into bbc and their list so......werent it radio1 not long ago did a whole huge demo comp thing, on the site? (I don't think Dizzee was quite yet signed last year either when on this silly list....but he don't have no guitar...)
at the end of t'day i'm not overly bothered who does/doesnt get in (so long as it isn't plain silly), but hey if everyone else wants to make a fuss over something already built up by the bbc (who have the ability to instigate the fuss over their lil top 10 baby)....so be it.....
Wait til Razorlight get 1st place come friday or summat, haha. Then y'all will have something proper to get yr teeth into...-
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Places 5, 4, 3 have been revealed, Razorlight are 4th so won't be top, and Wiley is in 3rd-
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*yay!!!* some vague faith in humanity restored then :)
roll on that goddamn album!
so.. Amy Winehouse & FF for places 2 & 1 then, i guess?.. ;) -
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BUMSNOGGER! Now thers a band for you........ -
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how have they always been on a major? vagrant a major? yeah vagrant is part of a major (these days) but i wonder why....mmmhhh dashboard maybe...why do you think std moved to a major??? the new record is huge just broad your piddly little brain and give it more than your two second memories chance!! -
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Can someone tell me where the damn list is so far. I can't find it on the site.
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Thoria have tunes, and have a new album out this year... they deserve to be huge. They could make a bit of an impact. Said that for the past 2 years though, so i could be wrong. -
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www.wishinghour.com
http://wishinghour.iuma.com
:D always a plasure. Who're Gut?
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