and it does have a reasonable tune, she has a nice voice as well.
Plus i heard a lost prophets song on Top of the pops i think and it seemed like a bit of a sell out. It was far more poppy than their other stuff. Surely this is worse than making a mediocre song
i just dont think that the lack of any brilliance deserves intense slating which should be reserved for truly bad people like that new Pet Shop Boys single
on the marketing and conceit. What is conceitful, wasn't she just another one of these people who are rising through the internet?. Is it the hypocricy of that that your commenting on?
like Arctic Monkeys she's been misconstrued as having built a reputation and success completely organically, through, like, the powerful quality an dappeal of her songs, where she's had a great deal of markting behind her despite her anti-capitalist/commercial image.
and i can see how that might annoy some but is it really right that she be chastised so harshly for an ambition to become popular.
And anyway this isn't exactly crime of the century and what it really comes down to is the music which although not good is not as atrocious as others would have you to believe
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When the head of state didn't play guitar,
Not everybody drove a car,
When music really mattered and when radio was king,
When accountants didn't have control,
And the media couldn't buy your soul,
And computers were still scary and we didn't know everything.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When popstars still remained a myth,
And ignorance could still be bliss,
And when God Save the Queen she turned a whiter shade of pale,
When my mom and dad were in their teens,
And anarchy was still a dream,
And the only way to stay in touch was a letter in the mail.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When record shops were on top,
and vinyl was all that they stocked,
and the super info-highway was still drifting out in space,
kids were wearing hand-me-downs,
And playing games meant kick arounds,
And footballers who had long hair and dirt across their face.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
that gets it some brownie points. And she has a nice voice and there is a good rhythm section. Plus it makes a nice change to all the other tosh in the charts
trying to give her more credibility, as she behind the image is as souless as the many of the mainstream 'artists' churned out by record companies - IE Blunt.
and it doesn't try and be something else, it doesn't hide behind a faux-pas hippy image, and most importantly I'm not subjected to the song every ad-break.
I've not heard that Sandi Thom single all the way through yet, but I've seen the TV ad about six billion times, and the short, poxy burst on that is more than enough to convince me that if her sudden rise to stardom WASN'T the end result of a shrewd marketing campaign, the implications are terrifying. Because to believe the official story - that thousands of people voluntarily subjected themselves to this shit online, then recommended it to their friends - is to lose your faith in mankind completely.
Article continues
There's a simple way to settle this once and for all, and that's for the huge crowd of people who apparently watched Thom's inaugural bedsit webcasts to step forward and make themselves known. Come on. Hands up. I want to see your faces. And then I want you smacked to death with brooms. You people are the enemies of fun. Your bland emissions pollute the atmosphere, threaten the environment. For the sake of humanity, you must be stopped.
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Sandi Thom genuinely touches some people. Whoever they are, I can't relate to them. Woody Allen once marvelled with horror at "the level of a mind that watches wrestling", and I'm the same with Sandi Thom fans. All I hear is that telltale, indefinable something that immediately marks it out as something that's bypassed the soul completely: consumable noise for people who don't like music but know listening to it is "the done thing" - like mutant imposters mimicking the behaviour of humans. I can't relate. It doesn't go. I'm being alienated by the replicants.
There's a word for this sort of thing. It's not "art", it's "content". And it's everywhere, measured out by unseen hands, mechanically dangled over the replicants' flapping gobholes; flavourless worms for android hatchlings.
Sometimes I can ALMOST see where content is coming from. Take Angels by Robbie Williams. It's a massively popular piece of content, beloved by millions. If I strain really hard, I can just about make out some genuine emotion. Just a speck or two - but enough to make its huge success at least vaguely explicable. Compared with anything that has any semblance of balls whatsoever, Angels is a bowl of cold mud - but next to most content, it's a towering emotional epic. It almost makes you feel something. No wonder it's become the official theme tune for thick people's funerals.
Anyway, back to Sandi Thom. As luck would have it, while typing this article, I've just heard I Wish I Was a Punk Rocker (With Bollocks in My Mouth) on the radio, and the real braintwister is the lyric, in which she yearns for a time "when accountants didn't have control and the media couldn't buy your soul". It's a boneheaded plea for authenticity, sung in the most Tupperware tones imaginable: a fake paean to a pre-fake era. It's giving me vertigo.
Wait. It gets worse. I've just looked it up on Napster - oh Christ. I didn't realise how far this had gone. The B-side is a cover of No More Heroes by the Stranglers. "Whatever happened to the heroes?", she warbles, knowing full well she's replaced them. She's the musical antichrist.
This is too creepy to be mere coincidence. Someone's messing with us. The replicant kings are trying to mangle our minds. Plug your ears. Block the signal. Final phase. They're taking over.
I've done my bit
hahahahha
i've
made my contribution. nice work all.
I've done it too
does that make me one of the cool ones?
Chris-Buget
stop selling yourself to the devil.
At once!
i voted 10
because you are being unfairly harsh you big indie snobs
unfair how?
It's not our fault she's rubbish
!
I love how being a snob or pretentious or "preachy" has become a bad thing.
It's like when you were at school and being smart was frowned apon by the over weight kids.
We're not snobs, we just like good music with some integrity.
these have allways been bad things
they all imply that you think that you are in some way better than everyone else. A sense of misguided superiority if you will
Hmmm
well I don't think it makes us indie snobs because she has a bad song, with little musical qualities.
but its not that bad
and it does have a reasonable tune, she has a nice voice as well.
Plus i heard a lost prophets song on Top of the pops i think and it seemed like a bit of a sell out. It was far more poppy than their other stuff. Surely this is worse than making a mediocre song
But seriously...
read the lyrics, don't they make you laugh?
yeah but they do referance Procol Harem
and although they are admittadly awful so are lots of lyrics
plenty of songs
have a reasonable tune, doesn't make them good though.
Each to their own I guess!
i agree
i just dont think that the lack of any brilliance deserves intense slating which should be reserved for truly bad people like that new Pet Shop Boys single
:oO
PSB are great.
You can't compare Sandi Thom and Pet Shop Boys.
The reasons people are criticising Sandi Thom cannot be applied to the Pet Shop Boys.
^this.
the two aren't musically comparable no
but i was just saying that worse things, like horrible horrible synth pop deserve insulting more than the mediocre and bland
But the insults aren't directed solely at the song itself,
it's the entire marketing conceit that people find distasteful.
i haven't picked up enough
on the marketing and conceit. What is conceitful, wasn't she just another one of these people who are rising through the internet?. Is it the hypocricy of that that your commenting on?
It's that
like Arctic Monkeys she's been misconstrued as having built a reputation and success completely organically, through, like, the powerful quality an dappeal of her songs, where she's had a great deal of markting behind her despite her anti-capitalist/commercial image.
Her song's fucking shit as well.
sorry some of that
came out a bit garbled.
There's already a few threads on this
http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/903926
http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/889688
http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/894618
Read to find out why people rate her as a zero.
the first one had an interesting article
and i can see how that might annoy some but is it really right that she be chastised so harshly for an ambition to become popular.
And anyway this isn't exactly crime of the century and what it really comes down to is the music which although not good is not as atrocious as others would have you to believe
Others?
i based my hatred of this record on my own ears and opinion, thanks.
i am
actually better than her. this is not a joke.
Unfairly harsh?
I doubt she cares really. She's probably laughing all the way to the bank...
this
is brillianT: http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=417&Itemid=147
LOLORAMA
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When the head of state didn't play guitar,
Not everybody drove a car,
When music really mattered and when radio was king,
When accountants didn't have control,
And the media couldn't buy your soul,
And computers were still scary and we didn't know everything.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When popstars still remained a myth,
And ignorance could still be bliss,
And when God Save the Queen she turned a whiter shade of pale,
When my mom and dad were in their teens,
And anarchy was still a dream,
And the only way to stay in touch was a letter in the mail.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
When record shops were on top,
and vinyl was all that they stocked,
and the super info-highway was still drifting out in space,
kids were wearing hand-me-downs,
And playing games meant kick arounds,
And footballers who had long hair and dirt across their face.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair,
In 77 and 69 revolution was in the air,
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
I was born too late to a world that doesn't care,
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair.
but it does have a referance to Procol Harem
that gets it some brownie points. And she has a nice voice and there is a good rhythm section. Plus it makes a nice change to all the other tosh in the charts
There's a bloke in the video who's pretending to play a guitar...
how do I know?
Because there's no guitar in it, or at least I couldn't hear any.
on Top of the Pops
there was an acoustic guitar on a stand behind them that nobody played as well. It appeared to be purely decorative
Decorative?
Is this to go with her hippy image that people seem to be buying in to.
Or is it
trying to give her more credibility, as she behind the image is as souless as the many of the mainstream 'artists' churned out by record companies - IE Blunt.
!
There is much much better pop music in the charts right now that this tepid squelch.
like what
i haven't heard anything in the charts as good as this.
Look at no.2, 3
and hey, even 10.
i agree on two
but three is debatable in fact i'd say its worse. Rather bland.
The Keane song is a rousing pop/ rock tune
and it doesn't try and be something else, it doesn't hide behind a faux-pas hippy image, and most importantly I'm not subjected to the song every ad-break.
its about as rousing
as watching a cow eating a daisy and about as rock as a piece of cardboard.
I think a charging pop tune
beats fake, generally annoying soul-less nu-hippy rubbish.
IMO.
i agree
but a charging pop tune is something like Beautiful Ones by Suede not big pieces of mouldy bread like this Keane song
still
Keane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sandi Thom
This is worse than just a mediocre song though.
It's a disgustingly cynical grab at credibility, disguised as faux naviety, that's far more dangerous than a million shit Blunt songs.
on behalf of scotland
I apologise for Sandi thom and KT tunstall, but somehow i don't think this will be enough.
A big fat
Zero
It was crap when it came out last year too. Now its just over exposed/hyped crap.
What Charlie Brooker has to say on the subject:
I've not heard that Sandi Thom single all the way through yet, but I've seen the TV ad about six billion times, and the short, poxy burst on that is more than enough to convince me that if her sudden rise to stardom WASN'T the end result of a shrewd marketing campaign, the implications are terrifying. Because to believe the official story - that thousands of people voluntarily subjected themselves to this shit online, then recommended it to their friends - is to lose your faith in mankind completely.
Article continues
There's a simple way to settle this once and for all, and that's for the huge crowd of people who apparently watched Thom's inaugural bedsit webcasts to step forward and make themselves known. Come on. Hands up. I want to see your faces. And then I want you smacked to death with brooms. You people are the enemies of fun. Your bland emissions pollute the atmosphere, threaten the environment. For the sake of humanity, you must be stopped.
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Sandi Thom genuinely touches some people. Whoever they are, I can't relate to them. Woody Allen once marvelled with horror at "the level of a mind that watches wrestling", and I'm the same with Sandi Thom fans. All I hear is that telltale, indefinable something that immediately marks it out as something that's bypassed the soul completely: consumable noise for people who don't like music but know listening to it is "the done thing" - like mutant imposters mimicking the behaviour of humans. I can't relate. It doesn't go. I'm being alienated by the replicants.
There's a word for this sort of thing. It's not "art", it's "content". And it's everywhere, measured out by unseen hands, mechanically dangled over the replicants' flapping gobholes; flavourless worms for android hatchlings.
Sometimes I can ALMOST see where content is coming from. Take Angels by Robbie Williams. It's a massively popular piece of content, beloved by millions. If I strain really hard, I can just about make out some genuine emotion. Just a speck or two - but enough to make its huge success at least vaguely explicable. Compared with anything that has any semblance of balls whatsoever, Angels is a bowl of cold mud - but next to most content, it's a towering emotional epic. It almost makes you feel something. No wonder it's become the official theme tune for thick people's funerals.
Anyway, back to Sandi Thom. As luck would have it, while typing this article, I've just heard I Wish I Was a Punk Rocker (With Bollocks in My Mouth) on the radio, and the real braintwister is the lyric, in which she yearns for a time "when accountants didn't have control and the media couldn't buy your soul". It's a boneheaded plea for authenticity, sung in the most Tupperware tones imaginable: a fake paean to a pre-fake era. It's giving me vertigo.
Wait. It gets worse. I've just looked it up on Napster - oh Christ. I didn't realise how far this had gone. The B-side is a cover of No More Heroes by the Stranglers. "Whatever happened to the heroes?", she warbles, knowing full well she's replaced them. She's the musical antichrist.
This is too creepy to be mere coincidence. Someone's messing with us. The replicant kings are trying to mangle our minds. Plug your ears. Block the signal. Final phase. They're taking over.
I love charlie brooker
that is fucking amazing.
Great Stuff.
A God amongst Men
Buy the book "Screen Burn" if you don't already have it.
well yeh
i can't really imagine her singing:
Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an ice pick That made his ears burn.
BROOKER
just wishes he was Morris. Not that funny, though I'll grant him, this is what we're all thinking.
Brooker wishes he was Morris?.
Er... how?
so
the real question is though..
would you romp her?
!
Nathen Barley was Charlie Brooker's creation.
I heart Charlie Brooker, I want his babies. Serious.