I was in the band and that is utter bullshit.

Tom (Reckless Management) is a very understanding and patient guy. God, he'd been telling Dave (as had the other members) for over a fucking year that he had to get certain shit sorted out and he didn't. We discussed rehearsing more so he turned up less. We wrote more songs and he stopped writing lyrics. Why bother touring an album if your singer is in such bad shape that he can't sing 3 nights in a row? He literally did EVERYTHING wrong and in the end the band (NOT Tom) just got pig sick of wiping his arse.

Besides, we are now a 4 piece (still no name) with 20/30 songs nearly ready, and I can tell you this band is categorically BETTER than H500. No doubt at all...

...Oh, and John. You know full well we are not retarded, and Tom is certainly not. He's a fucking good manager. Shame you feel the need to air your views on websites. I doubt very much whether you would have the balls to say that to any of our faces. I can't speak for the other guys but I would knock your fucking teeth out. Best keep quiet I reckon...

You know jack shit John.

You have heard Dave's side of the story and no-one elses. That is patently obvious. Why don't you ask Dave why we REALLY got rid of him. He probably won't tell you, but he knows because we told him. There are about 12 different reasons and it would seem that you don't know any of them...

As for him putting in 100%, you're in a fucking dreamworld mate. Tom did more for H500 in a day than Dave did in a year. I know as I was there.

I'll repeat it again for you as you obviously have trouble taking this in. Reckless had NOTHING to do with our decision. In fact, Tom was the person who sat us down and convinced us to think it through and not make a rash decision...

Steve,

Why are you so aggresive? You have alot of repressed anger and bitterness inside, ever thought of a ropeless skydive to bring you down? I am supporting a friend and giving my views on a subject that i'm entitled to. Dave has never really said a bad word about Tom to me, this is an opinion I have formed from hearing many things from a few different people. The reason I have started to reply in the drowned in sound PUBLIC forum is because I think it's rather harsh Dave has to suffer comments about him while he is forming a band himself, he is trying to sort things out and it's not helping you all badmouthing him with silly and unjustified comments. Dave is a great singer AND a great frontman, maybe if you had tried to help him and not pressure him you would have had better results. Judging from the way you have reacted to these posts it seems you cant take what you can give because you have thrown a right tantrum, if you read my other post I have said none of the band were at fault, now I think I may be wrong because your little angry boy attitude stinks. I mean come on you say he was soooo bad for soooo long but am I not right in saying you got a record deal WHILE he was in the band and while sorting his so called "issues" out. Don't look like you gave him a chance really does it, you also locked him out the rehersal room that that oh so lame and lazy singer actually sorted out for the band. Plus the sound that he wanted for the band was the one that got you to where you were you idiot, maybe you will be a better band without a singer, i doubt it but at least the jealousy wont be there. We all have our faults mate but you are supposed to look after one another and try to help each other in life not shut people out because they arent who YOU want them to be, how long is it before someone else isnt the "right sound" I mean it could even be you, have you thought about that? No too busy licking Tom O'conners arse and slagging off people that have done you no wrong, I suggest you learn to take critisism because you're gonna be getting alot of it in your life. Also how DARE you threaten me I havent made any ridiculous threats that cant be backed up online, It's rather cowardly to be honest but that seems to be the way things work with you.

Anyway I wish you luck, you might need it.

Oh and dont invade my hotmail account with pointless e-mails either, I dont appreciate it when adults have to act like children.

Steve,

Why are you so aggresive? You have alot of repressed anger and bitterness inside, ever thought of a ropeless skydive to bring you down? I am supporting a friend and giving my views on a subject that i'm entitled to. Dave has never really said a bad word about Tom to me, this is an opinion I have formed from hearing many things from a few different people. The reason I have started to reply in the drowned in sound PUBLIC forum is because I think it's rather harsh Dave has to suffer comments about him while he is forming a band himself, he is trying to sort things out and it's not helping you all badmouthing him with silly and unjustified comments. Dave is a great singer AND a great frontman, maybe if you had tried to help him and not pressure him you would have had better results. Judging from the way you have reacted to these posts it seems you cant take what you can give because you have thrown a right tantrum, if you read my other post I have said none of the band were at fault, now I think I may be wrong because your little angry boy attitude stinks. I mean come on you say he was soooo bad for soooo long but am I not right in saying you got a record deal WHILE he was in the band and while sorting his so called "issues" out. Don't look like you gave him a chance really does it, you also locked him out the rehersal room that that oh so lame and lazy singer actually sorted out for the band. Plus the sound that he wanted for the band was the one that got you to where you were you idiot, maybe you will be a better band without a singer, i doubt it but at least the jealousy wont be there. We all have our faults mate but you are supposed to look after one another and try to help each other in life not shut people out because they arent who YOU want them to be, how long is it before someone else isnt the "right sound" I mean it could even be you, have you thought about that? No too busy licking Tom O'conners arse and slagging off people that have done you no wrong, I suggest you learn to take critisism because you're gonna be getting alot of it in your life. Also how DARE you threaten me I havent made any ridiculous threats that cant be backed up online, It's rather cowardly to be honest but that seems to be the way things work with you.

Anyway I wish you luck, you might need it.

Oh and dont invade my hotmail account with pointless e-mails either, I dont appreciate it when adults have to act like children.

Please chaps, stop this bickering and instead watch me score a hat trick against Croatia tonight, have a beer and a hug and everything will be alright in the morning.
The Ginger Prince.

I appreciate what you're saying Steve, but I still cant see that u've been entirely fair to Dave. For instance ur saying that he wasnt in shape to sing for 3 days solid. He admitted having problems with his voice yet he was expected to sing all the time. If u had problems with your hands u wouldnt continue to drum and make matters worse would u? No, it wouldnt be expected. Same with the guitarists. And i'm no singer/songwriter, but I assume if u cant sing the lyrics that you're writing it makes it kinda hard to write them or even get them in your head. As u've guessed, I tend to be biased towards Daves side of things, but I appreciate you putting across your side. Having heard both sides of the argument I still feel that Dave was treated poorly. Changing the locks on the rehearsal rooms without letting him know was a tad cuntish. It seems unfair to the general public who loved H500 that they should be shot down in a ball of flames when things coulda been helped and sorted.

You proved the point I was tryin to make. U havent got a clue about what its like being in that situation, u obviously cant understand that sometimes things arent just black and white. Speaking from personal experience having a shitty job is as bad as having no job. Not everyone is blessed with the strength of character to persevere with monotonous, tedious jobs that pay peanuts. Its easy to get down and depressed. And it becomes a vicious circle. Shit jobs give u no motivation to work, which gets u in debt which means u have to take another shitty job. I emphasise this is from MY point of view and has no bearing on the H500 goings on, but maybe it could explain a bit...