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Slipknot's Subliminal Verses

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by Mike Diver
Artists: Slipknot
Slipknot's third album, 'Vol.3: The Subliminal Verses', will hit UK stores on May 24th.

Unlikely to be quite as prog as its title suggests, '...Subliminal...' was recorded at Rick Rubin's haunted mansion in the Hollywood Hills, and apparently demonstrates the suited-and-booted band's ability to connect with their existing fans, who they like to call "maggots", and push the limits of their genre in all directions. So that's shit then, in all directions. I'm joking...

Any Slipknot fans that have just shat themselves had better fetch some rubber panties, as come March 30th you'll be able to download an exclusive MP3, entitled 'Pulse of the Maggots', from slipknot1.com. The site will also host an interactive section from this date. Eventually, nine individual parts will comprise the final website (do you see what they've done there? Clever eh?).

The first single from the album, 'Duality', will be accompanied by a video shot in the band's hometown of Des Moines. Slipknot are lined up to play this year's Download Festivals, plus various European dates as special guests of Metallica.


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Where is it that you're joking? I must have missed it.



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GRRRRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGH! Slipknot are so scary.

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slipknot are kool i can real practes my drumming to there songs

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Slipknot are nu-metal crap.

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If you strip away their costumes and their fans (who are mostly angry little oiks that rattle around shopping centres on skateboards), Slipknot are actually a decent band - and Joey Jordison is one of the most amazing rock drummers out there, let alone a brilliant guitarist.

The nu metal tag is bullshit. Deftones are also described as nu metal but, like Slipknot, they piss all over the likes of Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock.

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Slipknot are far from fucking nu-metal crap in this album. Mick does solo's finally coz Ross Robinson didnt let him before but Rick does. If you have a listen to Don't Get Close by them, ull see theyre doing alot of stuff that Robinson didnt let them do.. ie Mick soloing. Fucking awsome material their new shit is.

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dont know what i would describe kid rock as but it wouldnt b nu metal. i cant stand slipknots music. dont know whether or not im influenced by the way they look (cuz i think they're pretty ridiculous looking) but i think some of their videos are absolutely disgusting and they don't come across as the kind of band that are doing it cuz they love it they seem like theyre doing it show off and they think it makes themselves look big. dont think it could be described as rock music cuz all they seem to do is shout and scream and just make a noise really. all these kids now who think they should like heavier music cuz its "cool" all seem to like slipknot cuz they r trendy to like, i think its more because of their image than their music, slipknot r like the westlife of the heavy world. they're pop music. their members may have talent individually but because there is so many of them its difficult to tell and it doesn't come across very well, whereas smaller bands, such as deftones, have got it just right

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Ive heard Slipknot been called pop before but i think that is wrong. Sure they ARE popular because of how controversal they are plus their image but proper pop is shit that you would hear on radio all the time. For example: Pussy Punk/Rock. Deftones, great band, but Slipknot are just the classic Bang-your-head aggressive metal band. I dont care if you hate slipknot coz alotta my friends hate em too but i just love the fukn band coz i listen to the talent that comes out of the band. Having nine members playing together really tight, both live and studio, must take alot of skill and talent to pull off.

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again, personal opinion, but i saw them at reading in 2002 and really didn't think they played well together live. not just saying that because i generally don't like the band cuz i used to think sum41 were alright til i saw them live and they r the most godawful band uve ever seen on stage. to be honest, slipknot don't really need 9 members do they?

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yeah its my personal opinion i admit. but newayz, i have seen slipknot live here (Australia) and i thought they were so fukn energetic and thats what made me get into them properly. 9 members is alot but sure they could be just as good without their two custom percussionists but i just reckon that 9 members just make Slipknot who they are. Fukn krazy.

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p.s. its nice to hear u present a reasonable argument for a change instead of just swearing at ppl and throwing names about! maybe there is a brain cell there after all ;)

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suck my cock, they rule! they'd kick ur ass

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lol, killajunkie wins this argument, with that comment alone..the old 'they could kick your head in' line, always wins. by that rule of thumb pantera must be the best band in the world, like, ever. except they arent..

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What is all this talk of Slipknot moving in a new direction? Should be interesting to say the least.... :S

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so being recorded in the same place as Deloused in the Comatorium is gonna make it less prog?

i hear that they are actuallu trying a bit of subtlety this album, so dont knock it before you hear it

then you can knock it til the cows come home

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What, like, where you record an album dictates what style it'll be? Or what stylistic influences it has? You learn something new every day...

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if youre comment's trying to contradict what i was saying, its pointless, because i was only reacting to the apparent assumption in the article. but, yes, your choice of producer (moving from a man most notable for creating the sounds of Korn and Limp Bizkit to a guy recently celebrated for teh last, largely drum free, johnny cash albums and the very much studio enhanced Mars Volta album) does effect how the album will sound. Also the location , owned and inhabited by, i think, a buddhist, with meditation zones and suchlike could quite possibly have an effect on the sound, as the band claim that it and discussions with rubin have.





they still, at large, suck
but not as much as yo mama

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Don't like knocking albums. It's a bit perverted.

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kid rock isn't nu-metal (?) altho the majority of it is crap

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Kid Rock is plain fucking shit

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Better news:

Million Dead release a new single May 5th:
'I Gave My Eyes To Stevie Wonder' backed with other new songs, so on May 5th you can all shout in unison "stutter! stutter!".

That is all.

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Yet more evidence to support the rumours that they'll be making a contribution to this sunday's Songs of Praise...?

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Slipknot are the worst excuse for a band ever. Worse than Metallica even.

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FUCK YOU FAG!! Slipknot is the best metal band to ever hit record companies. so dont give me no bullshit about slip0knot being shit. Lemme guess, you prolly listen to some gay fukn fairy shit like blink 182 or some shit u fukn gay punker!

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Slipknot best metal? *coughConvergecough*

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SLIPKNOT IS THE FUCKING SHIT!!!! All you people can suck a huge elephant dong

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ok just shows your lack of knowledge on drummers- joey is by far not one of the best drummers out there. listen to simon philips for one.

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have a fucking listen to this new album coming out... Joey got awarded Best Drummer by Metal Hammers readers poll!! Once you hear this new shit, ull find out exactly how good he is. If you wanna hear a good drummer, listen/watch joey do a drum solo on the DVD Disasterpieces, you cannot say that is crap coz ive heard Philips, and i just think jordison pisses on him!

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i have to grant 'slipwank' are better than 'cradle of shit'

maybe hes not a shit drummer, but the other people around him dont really compliment his good drumming.
there previous albums are piss poor (in my opinion) they might play with a certain energy live, but musically they blow.
does their new album have a 'nu-metal slow whiney song?' or is it just stuff to mosh and fight to?
do they still wear clown masks?
blink 182 rock more than slipknot. but it doesnt make either of them good.

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In don't like slipknot, or people who post stuff like 'u fukn gay punker', but their drummer is really good. Hes also about the only good thing in a pretty godawful band. I like a bit of metal now and then, but slipknot just aren't a good band.

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it's thoroughly depressing to think that a band so devoid of musicality can have such a large fan base.though comments like:
"FUCK YOU FAG!! Slipknot is the best metal band to ever hit record companies. so dont give me no bullshit about slip0knot being shit. Lemme guess, you prolly listen to some gay fukn fairy shit like blink 182 or some shit u fukn gay punker!"
suggests that the vast majority of said fan base barely share a brain cell between them.ah well they'll grow out of it.or maybe not.ho hum.

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''Slipknot is the best metal band to ever hit record companies. so dont give me no bullshit about slip0knot being shit''
thats hardly an achievement.

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fuck anyone who thinks that slipknot are nu-metal, you clearly dont know what nu-metal means. And also anyone who thinks that slipknot are shit...keep your fucking opinions to yourself and come back when you know the meaning of an amazing band...i dont understand how anyone can mock slipknot..its a band formed of nine talented musicians who put together awesome music so as far as im concerned, if you have a fucking problem with them them you can go and shove it down your throat and choke on it because anyone who appriates good music will agree with me...and joey jordison the most amazing guy in the world...i love him

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Firstly, I happen to like Slipknot alot, admittly i think they are pretty damn amazing, yet everyone has a right to their own opinions.

Secondly, you can not say Slipknot are shit, its just different and unique. If you do wish to say Slipknot are shit please try and give some reasoning to your answer. Do not just go "Slipknot are shit" because that is not constructive.

Thirdly, the Slipknot fan base does not share a brain cell between them.

Fourthly, I do not know what is good/bad drumming as i can not play the drums, so the named drums players - Joey Jordison and Simon Phillips are good and bad in their own right.

Lastly, Its good to hear Slipknot are back on the scene, who plans to see them then?

Yours,

Phantasm (Maggot)

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'Thirdly, the Slipknot fan base does not share a brain cell between them. '

-Quite. Not even one lousy brain cell between the whole lot of 'em.

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"Thirdly, the Slipknot fan base does not share a brain cell between them."
eh?
are you slagging off your fellow "maggots"?or are you just an idiot as well?


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that confused me as well i thought perhaps he was trying to be clever and take the piss out of himself in a serious way

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Ok, clearly i completely screwed up the sentence, and now i look back at it i have no idea what i meant to put, but it wasn't meant to be insulting. All i can do is apologise for any insult caused and I will try and make myself clearer next time.

For the record, yes... i'm an idiot, just like you. Everyone is an idiot in some sense....


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This whole Slipknot are a boy band things is getting a little long in the tooth.

Firstly since when did Slipknot ask for a load of young fans and is that such a bad thing. I dont believe a bands fan base determines the quality of their music and if it did Oasis and Blur are worse than Slipknot.

Secondly Im sick of hearing about how Slipknot have sold out. They have stayed with the same label the whole time, Roadrunner Records, not a massive label really. And on that note didnt Franz Ferdinand just sign a massive deal with Epic, if that isnt selling out I dont know what it. Will they recieve flak from pretentious garage rock fans, I doubt it.

Thirdly you cannot taint a band with the same brush just because their popular as say Linkin Park who are manufactured. Linkin Parks band members were drawn together like for instance the Spice Girls.

Finally the whole nu metal tag is just another way for non metal fans to catergorize bands they do not like. If you dont like Slipknot then fair enough, no one is forcing you to, but slamming them for with simply ludicrous unfounded accusations is plain immature.

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SlipKnot is the best. None can compare.

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Firstly anyone that calls Slipknot nu-metal is just taking the piss. They did get popular around the time of nu-metal but the music thye make is most definately just plain old metal. Love them or hate them I find Slipknot very entertaining, they are not my usual kind of music i'm more into punk/hardcore but I really like their thrash metal stuff. Joey Jordison is the most talented drummer I have heard on record and you really have to agree even if you hate the band. My only criticism of the band is why 9 members??? I mean come on, 2percussionists? And you dont need a sampler and a dj! Apart from that they are a good band and metal fan made a very good comment about anyone that brands them sell-outs.

Thank you

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easy to rile this lot.
and while we're on "the 'knot" which is right:
"slipknot is the best", as said by that bloke two replies up or:
"slipknot are the best".
is a band a collective or or one multi limbed organism?
some people say one, some say th'other.
im confused.
which is right?
i reckon the latter.


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i personally would say the second one but its very ambiguous i don't think anyone can be wrong either way it just depends how u look at it

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"easy to rile this lot."

yeah, and great fun too. it always seems that nu-metal fans are more vehement defending their genre than anyone else. unfortunately, they're also less articulate. thus giving their argument zero cred. i haven't seen a followup this funny since DiS started laughing at the fact that that Linkin Park singer who had a hernia made himself sick every time he sang. Now THAT was a funny thread.

Oh, the joys of taunting the 'loyal until death'.

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Best Drummer ever?? Bullshit, Steve White is fucking amazing but because hes not in a metl/rock band or in the limelight no one knows bout him. He's won Rhythm (Drumming magazine for drummers) Best drummer of the years for years running, i mean don't get me wrong Joey is good, but there are other good drummers.

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true
he's probably the quickest drummer you've ever heard but that's probably just cos you might not have heard that much thrash
speed in dexterity is not all there is to drumming but it is a good indicator of quality
try some drummers from some speed jazz core bands
it's so fast you probably won't even be able to figure out the time sig, let alone when the time sig changes
jazz drummers are arguably the most talented species but when they have to pound the drums as loud as possible and as quick as possible it takes it to a new realm

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my brother is well into this drumming malarkey and he says that vinnie coaliuta(think that's how u spell it), dave weckl and dennis chambers are the best drummers about.but they're in some jazz fusion (i know.sounds pretentious,doesn't it?)bands so theyre not as well known as your jordisons and smiths.
mind you it's only banging on a pig skin, isn't it?

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and all of the above played for Sting, so if thats what greatness brings then the future sure is bright for the midget in the boiler suit.


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I think I'll probably sound more intelligent and hold onto my possibilty of having a valid point of view by not writing anything here.

DAMN!

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Yup, another maggot has something to say..god how annoying. Well i'm gonna keep this short, put down slipknot all you want fine by me since i know i'm gonna think some of the bands you people like suck but hey, we all have a mutual feeling then. The reason why i'm annoyed though is why is someone going to review a bands album when they OBVIOUSLY don't like the band so are going to shit all over it before s/he has even heard any of their songs. Oh and in response to most of the statements i've read, the reason why you see alot of slipknot fans angry is because the songs, if you have ever sat down and read the lyrics otherwise you won't no this, are aggressive in their own right and appeal to the people who have had shit from people for most of their life...and it all comes out for some reason when they seem them live or listen to their music. Crazy i know but funny all at the same time...well maybe i didn't keep this as short as i was going to. Oh and the reason why they have 9 guys is because they wanted to give their music more than just as 3 maned busted sound, who are in my opinion the shittiest shit to ever shit and no i'm not saying the slipknot haters like them since i used to be a slipknot hater but wouldn't like busted even if i still hated slipknot, they're all good at what they do but most people just instinctly listen to corey and go 'oh no, screaming they must instinctivly suck balls'. But hey even if you are a hater they must be doing something right since you've all sat down and posted something about them.

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you guys crack me up ! Children listen up. first of all those of you that are quick to dis are so sure of yourselves that you have fully figured a band out purely based on what you little you do know about the band or them as people. Yes they wear masks so did Kiss and kind diomond so do most death and black metal bands with the use of loads of make up, yes as much of slipknot is the image and stage show as it is the music. place yourselves in thier shoes and anyones shoes of a band who is signed. all you want to do is write music and be able to make a living from that. so you come up with a concept that has as much visual attraction as does the music becasue so your sure to stand out and be remembered. ANYONE who has ever played in a band will agree you want people to like your stuff and keep coming back to see you most all remember you, its your lifeblood .you have to admit they are another band that has thier own sound too with out ripping anyone off which is few and far between these days especialy in metal . Corey Taylors vocals are often ( not always ) super intelligent and amazingly writen regardless of content and in which manor they are being used. Any writer out there would have to agree once they read the lyrics. Nothing lyrically in any of the slipknot or many metal bands for that matter are personally unfelt emotionally by anyone at some point in everyday life, only difference is they get them out and deal with them in music intead of beating the shit out of someone or getting bad depression ,as does pretty much everyone who can wirte a song regardless of genre. So they got really big with "iowa" , who gives a shit so the record company pumped loads of cash into marketing them. Sad to say people they have ABSOLUTLY no say or input when it comes to that. the first record deal ANY band signs these day consists of normally a 2 or 3 album agreement unless its a very small private label. The band HAS to just do as its told inregards to signings, promos and limited content on albums or they wind up in court for breaking the contract, its that simple . At the end of the day stop and think about it for a second and im not talking just about slipknot but anyone. just becasue you dont like thier music doesnt mean they are crap muso's bad people and most curtanly not dumb , as cut throat as the music industry is there is no way idiots can get that far. the work still has to put in more so than anyone by the band. Next time you see slipknot , marilyn Manson , who ever ,onstage think to yourself , this is as much as a show ( ie theatre ) as it is a music gig and look at them, youll agree that they are all infact like late 20's if not early 30's so they have been around for a while , played thier instuments for like 18 years atleast figured a few things about life out. some thing that most fans forget most often than not these guys you love and put so high or put down are twice your age and know a little but more dont be sure you know anything about them other than the ENTERTAINMENT that they simply are. You may not like to look at them you may not like to listen to them but who ever they are you have to atleast respect them as people purly becasue you dont know anything about them outside the band but it is very obvious they have worked fucking hard to get to the point where thier onstage filling arenas or selling 200,000 albums, its not handed to anyone , only the strongest most dedicated most hardworking most original and unique sounding with something to offer other than just the music make it these day. I hate to say it but thats all styles of music, as much as i really dont get anything from hearing justin timberlake , britney fuck whoever , i know nothing about them but they could actually be pretty wicked people DAY JOBS ASIDE ! Plus im pretty sure they will acheive more and already have done than i EVER will so whos the smaller man now and whos gonna have the last laugh everytime!

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thats all well and good, but they're still shite

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Ha i almost left then i saw all the comments on joey Jordison's drumming. Massimo how can you not say he is one of the best out there when people like Simon Philips , Dave Weckle , Dennis Chambers , and various other VERY well known drummers in drumming circles have all at some time been noted in commenting that Joey Jordison is infact one of the best drummers in his genre today, You cant compare 2 differnt muso's from completely differnt genre's as together as each will have fully differnt strengths but in thier own right each as good as each other at what they do. Drumming is not just about " hitting a pig skin " as some nody commented. listen to Danny Carey from Tool and tell me its not an art form. shit hope this dosent turn into a drumming thread now !

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Firstly i want to make a point: slipknot rule, but ur all intitled to ur own twisted little opinions.
Secondly i also feel that the people who dis slipknot here rarely state what bands they like themselves. Are they to ashamed to state that they secretly like the fast food rockers 4 fear of ridicule?
Thirdly people who think slipknot just scream into microphones, or can't play instruments obviously have no musical knowledge themselves because that is blatantly not true.
Next time, unless u anti slipknot people have good and fair reasons 2 dis slipknot , keep ur mouths shut. Go and congregate in sum anti slipknot room and rot there. thank u.

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Ok, but you see, Slipknot tailor their image to appeal to the pre-puberty market (The image, stupid amounts of merchandise....), and to us older, some would say wiser listeners, we see straight through this blatant marketing ploy- musics for the love of it, not the money. If you want something heavy, brutal and anthemic, try Soil or Chimaira. Slipknot just plain suck.

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I'd disagree - Slipknot don't suck, they're just an average metal band dressed up like the Powerpuff Girls or something. Some of the drumming on Iowa is fucking immense.

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Some of you may or may not like the band slipknot and their music...but i saw them last monday live at Roseland in NYC. Their live show would definately change your mind, they ARE a live band.

Mooseman - i work for roadrunner records, i also have met slipknot and other bands. The image isnt for the money, they were using it to hide their identitys. Also it brings out their music, they would have rather stayed anomynous. One thing i have to give you tho - Chimaira was at the same show (my 4th time seeing them) and they fucking rocked.

If you want to form an opinion check out their Disasterpeices DVD. It would be well worth your dollar, no matter what you think of them now..i guarentee it will change your mind.

And they are odviously not doing it for the money. They made so much fucking cash when IOWA came out, they dont need anymore haha. They told me themselves that they are doing it because its their lives, they are a dedicated band and i give them a lot of fucking credit.

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For the record, Slipknot are actually very talented.
I can't believe I just wrote that...
Reputation: soiled.

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an ex-girlfriend of mine forced me to stand around and watch part of their set at reading a couple of years back. after three songs i went off in search of a friend chicken stand in the hope of contracting e-coli.