So what with the Artic Monkeys (spankers) being completely shit due to the fact that they were thrust into the lime light way before they had developed enough to produce a decent record; how young is to young to be making music in the public domain?
I'd say if you’re under 21 and famous then your long term carer is generally doomed.
thats rubbish
most people who have had long term careers started before 21 silly boy
I don't know
Mick Jones was 19 when the Clash were famous
John Lydon was 19 when the Sex Pistols were famous.
They both had long-term careers.
nah
you're speaking doodoo.
the beatles started before 21
so did minor threat
and everyone else good and important. everyone.
worst. thread. ever.
most. inaccurate. thread. ever.
generally. not. a. good. thread.
Roddy Frame was 14 when he wrote Oblivious
(Aztec Camera for those who don't know)
And Oblivious is one of the best songs ever
he had to get a note from his mum and his teachers to have time off from school to do interviews with the NME - bless
Hey!
Everyone knows that Smoosh are the future of indie rock........... right? ;)
also
Hansen (or whatever their name is) still rock me the right way.
14?!
bejesuz! i thought he was 16 or 17... not that there was much in it.
that song has some of the best lines ever.
he was 16 when it was released
but he wrote it when he was 14
incredible!
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might be something in that.
btw- notable exceptions to a theory don't instantly disprove it. There is something to be said for too much success and attention paid to an undeveloped talent being bad for long term reputation.
There are lots of sixties teenybop type acts who made serious, heavy duty albums after their first flush of success, yet are typecast as inane shit peddlers due to the shit music they made as teenagers that everyones aunty bought.
it has nothing to do with age
just about being good or shit.
shit at 20 don't make a career.
shit at 30 don't make a career.
shit at 40 don't make a career.
yes
But you're more likely to be good (in rock music terms) if you can balance youthful enthusiasm with songwriting maturity. Which is more about your state of mind than your physical age.
excellent
I'll put you down for a copy of my "best of" when I hit 50.
Undertones
16 when they wrote 'Teenage Kick'
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and now work in Budgens.
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were
Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer not all under 21 when they started?!
silverchair!
actually people will take this to prove their point either way i suspect.
ORSON!
are like, 40odd and they're gonna change the face of music with their debut album. See, its cool to be old and rock. How fuckin good are they.
Wait a minute, didn't Idlewild get gradually worse as they got older....damn it, i changed my mind.
not in Sonic Youth's case
first album came out in 1981, so 25 years ago now..
Kim Gordon = 53
Thurston Moore = 48
Lee Renaldo = 50
First Pumpkins album is now 15 years old, and Corgan is 41..
Corgan is 38
we're both wrong
i did my sums wrong! b. March 17, 1967 according to wikipedia so that makes him 39.
I don't know about Corgan
But many musician birth dates on Wikipedia are not to be trusted.
No...
that is Corgans Birthday.
I forgot this was 2006.