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by Alex Wisgard
  • Type: Album
  • Release date: 30/08/2004
  • Label: Rough Trade
Expectations are high. After an aborted session with Bernard Butler at the production helm, the band recruited Mick Jones to help them piece together their long-awaited second album. DiS is proud to bring you a special preview of the results...

It’s been a year since Don’t Look Back Into The Sun, the iconic last release from The Libertines proper, but of course they do have an excuse. Singer/guitarist Pete Doherty’s much catalogued drug abuse has led him all over the world, from London to Paris and Thailand and back again, trying to get clean. Oddly enough, with all his troubles he did manage to release two singles (one, the aching ballad For Lovers was incredibly good; the other, a self-titled EP with his side project Babyshambles was not so good). The rest of the band, however, took some much needed time off and recorded this album with Doherty earlier in the year. With former Clash guitarist Mick Jones at the producer’s helm once again, can the album live up to the promise of their first album, or is The Libertines going to be their Cut The Crap?

Initial signs look pleasing – opener and first single Can’t Stand Me Now is an obviously self-referential ode to the faltering relationship between Doherty and fellow front man Carl Barât. Over some of the finest Jam impressions since Weller and co hung up their suits all those years ago, the volatile pair sing to each other their own personal problems, while the harmonica-led outro… well… you’ll either love it or hate it. Last Post On The Bugle (originally mooted as the album’s first single) follows suit – pounding drums (courtesy of Gary Powell, an oft-overlooked talent) and a chiming 3-note riff compete with Pete’s innocent plea – “I got carried away”. Too true.

The Sixties seem to play a great influence on this album, both for the better and the worse: What Katie Did, a fan favourite since it first turned up as a demo on the band’s Babyshambles demos site, is great. Carl’s vocals give the track some welly, while the “Shoop de lang-a-lang” backing vocals add to the charm. Meanwhile, the Barât-led Narcissist sounds like Chas and Dave on amphetamines. Conversely, Don’t Be Shy is one of the worst things the band has committed to tape. Doherty wails, completely out of tune, over some loose funk that sounds like a bad Beatles b-side.

Thankfully, the good moments are here in abundance, and the album’s highlights come in quick succession. The Man Who Would Be King starts off with a bit of self-plagiarism, stealing their own intro from Tell The King, before spinning it into words of advice for any newcomers to their already growing scene. “I’ve been told if you want to make it in this game, you’ve gotta have the luck, you’ve gotta have the look”, Pete croons over a prodding bass-line and a crescendo of guitars, until everything stops, leaving Doherty sneering a nonchalant “la la la la la la” until the band come crashing back in. It’s totally invigorating stuff, guaranteed to send shivers up, down, left and right of your spine, and shows a much more mature side to The Libertines. Meanwhile, Music When The Lights Go Out, a track dating back to about 2000, is almost folky, coming on like a modern Kinks, until about halfway through when everything gets cranked up to 10 only to disappear again.

This being The Libertines, you know there are going to be some high octane punk rockers as well, and there are certainly a couple here that you can go fucking mental to. Arbeit Macht Frei is a one-minute thrash, in which Barât and Doherty seem to shout the first things that come into their head. Something tells me drugs may have been involved. Meanwhile, The Saga is unquestionably one of the finest tracks on here; stop start rhythms clash with trebly guitars, while Pete tells us that “I ain’t got a problem… it’s you with the problem”. And they say the 12-step program doesn’t work?

The album ends in a fit of complete and utter joy. What Became Of The Likely Lads is one of the album’s more straightforward punk tracks, and doesn’t suffer for it. Another track about the frontmen’s faltering relationship (“What became of the dreams we had?”), as well as looking to the future, albeit pessimistically, Likely Lads is a brilliant way to end a brilliant album. While the future looks uncertain for the band (Barât is leading the rest of the band without Pete for the time being), if this is to be their final album, and some say it will be, it’s the end of a beautiful career.

“What became of forever?” There are only four people on the planet who can tell us the answer. The legacy continues…

  • The Libertines 9 / 10
Words: Alex Wisgard

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Gotta say, I really think this review is a little pedestrian. It lacks imagination, articulation and inspiration. It's more like a journalism by numbers tabloid music section review than a DiS one.

I really don't like criticising DiS reviewers/writers. Mainly because they're so often sensitive souls who get enough messageboard flames from an abundance of irate journo wannabees who're sure they could do better. I just felt I had to make light of this particular review cos it ain't up to scratch.

Ne'er mind though, sure your next 'un'll be better



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'cause it is, he's only 15, bless.


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"one, the aching ballad For Lovers was incredibly good; the other, a self-titled EP with his side project Babyshambles was not so good)"

That's no excuse, a 5 year old know's better than to overuse the word 'good'!

Don't patronise the fella, their are other DiS writers in their teens that can do better reviews, age isn't the deciding factor, talent is. And on the basis of this review alone, the writer ain't up to scratch.

Sure he'll prove me wrong next time though...

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what the review fails miserably to convey is:

the album is shit. really shit.

bless 'em.

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While I usually like to reserve judgement until I've heard an album, on the strength of their first CD and hearing some of these songs live, I can only agree.

I really fail to see the appeal of the band - least of all self-made tragedy Pete Doherty. Reading yesterday's piece on his addiction in the Sunday papers made me pity the lad for all the wrong reasons.

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i actually really like the band, watching them live is usually very entertaining and while the first album isn't exactly classic, it's not bad either.

this one is, unfortunately. i'm holding onto the hope that the version i've got isn't finished, but judging by the 'production' on the first one, i'm not holding my breath for an improvement!


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i'm prepared to forgive you for that comment, because you like carter usm.

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Thanks :)

It'll grow on me anyway, things always do. I don't want to not like it, really.

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When was the last DiS really slagged someone off? Everything seems to be getting 4+ these days

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This isn't Q, where every journalist is given a load of albums and told to get on with it. So (in the most part) people write about what enthuses them.

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ordinary boys review?

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How can a 15 year old have heard enough music to intelligently review anything.

Regardless of whether he can write or not.

This album is not 4.5/5. It's a 2 or a 3.


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>How can a 15 year old have heard enough music to intelligently review anything.

How can a 17 year old win a Grand Slam tennis tournament?

Don't be patronising.

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that last comment was probably the most astute i've ever read on this website.
less of the ageism.

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But you're only 18.

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by
um
spending time listening to records?

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Since when do you have to have listened to a certain amount of music before you can be deemed worthy enough to write reviews?
Do you have to own a copy of Chas and Dave's greatest hits, supplemented by a warehouse full of Latvian techno records released circa 93-95?
At the end of the day, a review is someone's opinion on whether they like or dislike a record.
It is not a brief history of popular music.

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I dunno, it's probably me but if i read a review i like it to access a broad musical knowledge and place the analysis within that context.

Like anybody can review the new Basement Jaxx record for instance. But it would be great if they reviewed it and referenced Disco (salsoul), early house and hybridised ethinic culture as well as telling us what they thought.

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what does age matter people? He's giving his review which is a 4.5. If you think it's only worthy of a 2 or 3 then keep that nice little thaught to yourself. (I'm sure the person to post the next comment will pick up on the fact that I'm only 16 and can't possibly know anything about music)

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You're only 16 and can't possibly know anything about music.

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You're 26, you don't know what the kids are down with (possibly)

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I know exactly what the kids listen to. They listen to Matchbox 20 and Sting.

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you're right, my grandads kids do

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what gives the writer more right to have his "nice little thaught"s heard above anyone else?
this site is programmed and edited so that they have theirs, and anyone else has theirs.

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what gives the writer more right to have his "nice little thaught"s heard above anyone else?
this site is programmed and edited so that they have theirs, and anyone else has theirs.

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age doesn't mean a lot surely.
mr harrison was 15 when he went to hamburg.
age brings cynicism to those who cant take it.
the fact you're on this site means you like (reasonably) good music no?
why are you not interested in the Libertines?
have YOU written a song as good as what a waster?
thought not. lol

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ive got the album, its poor

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I thought the album is run of the mill, with a few songs that catch your attention along the way. It's probably a grower, so i wont say its shit.
'Music When The Lights Go Out' is a good un tho, i enjoyed that one.

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http://barrygriffiths78.users.btopenworld.com/libertines/


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when you say the album is poor, how is it poor? compartivily to their first or compared to "london calling". hate it when people say, just shit. pointless. and the review wasnt that bad - if you were paying a sub of £40 p/year then yeah moan - but dont blast the kid for trying, specially as you aint parting with ur student loan.

and age does mean a lot. "experience" is subjective, just 'cause you're 22 don't mean you're any more intellectual or emotionally aware of whatever than a 32 year old that still lives at home with his mum. age means shit. rooney vs henry/sharpova vs william (s)/howard vs blair.

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You're right in a sense. The review wasn't that bad, it just wasn't up to the usual DiS standard.

Personally speaking I come on here for the truly great writing as much as for the music news (people like Matthew Gregory, Nadine McBay and Andrew Future are eloquence personified, to name but a few). IMHO, this review is barely sixth form standard, it doesn't come anywhere near to the lofty heights of DiS writing.

Yes, none of us pay subscription fees, but when this site allegedly gets "thousands" of responses to its call for new writers, you expect them to pick the creme of the crop, not the run of the mill (I say this based on this review alone, I await an astounding follow up from the same reviewer to prove me wrong).

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good points....
wizzy alex lad - we look forward to your review of the new shazny lewis lp.....


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Ah, now I see where you're coming from - bitter that your DiS application was turned down.

When did this become a 'review my review' site?

Leave off, bully.

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who are you talking too?


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I assume you're talking to me, being as though I mentioned the 'call for new writers' thingimajig.

Yes, I hold me hands up, I did apply- no surprises there.
Yes, I never got a reply (not strictly getting turned down, but as good as). That was because- I'll fully admit- my application was run of the mill (much like this review), had a factual innacuracy or three in it and just generally wasn't very good. I just wasn't worthy of a place on their staff.

I'm big enough to admit that I'm sure there were oodles of better music journos than me that applied (despite the fact I have I have a 1st class degree in journalism- god, aren't I arrogant to drop that one in? Yes). Heck, maybe 'Alex the kid' is one of them. But the fact still remains that this review was mediocrely average, and doesn't adhere to DiS usual high standards.

It's not 'reviewing a review', it's called having an opinion. Something most of our grandparents fought for.

And I fail to see how your use of the term 'bully' applies, I have been polite throughout.

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I refer to the AMOUNT of times you've felt the need to state this opinion.

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Yes, you're entirely right. I have reiterated the same opinion more times than neccessary. I apologise profusely.

Although I still don't think that's bullying. I'm hardly calling the writer 'snot face' and pulling their hair, am I?


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he's rightly actually. my follow-up post was full of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes - yet no pisstake was made!! seen a million peeps on this board big up one another's reviews - so why not be negative too. it's fair enough - as long as it's not every single post eh!

really cannot wait to hear the new LIBS album.

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"mediocrely average"

i like this

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I'm 31 and think Dire Straits should be featured more on DiS. And Cliff Richard.

And Melt Banana.

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this site lacks Strawberry Alarm Clock or the 13th Floor Elevators.

*runs off to write article on how psychedelia is coming back*

ahem.

alex
xxxx

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And Melt Banana.

Damn fucking straight.

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Speaking of which, are you going to see Polysics?

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15 year old kids shouldn't be reviewing music then should be out getting drunk, fucking strangers and learning how to play the guitar.


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i wish i started writing when i was 15. have you seen almost famous? i wish i was that guy at 15.

i say good luck to him.

bless.

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and i don't even like the libertines, or consequently this album. it sounds stupid when the only legacy someone has - the only stab they have at an ego - is the fact that they're older than someone. ageism in music never got anyone anywhere - beethoven was making music at 3 or something.

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i wish i was getting drunk, fucking strangers, and playing guitar at 15 to be honest.

i shall be hearing much of this album at t this weekend, and shall review it in my head.

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That guy grew up to make films... including Almost Famous (as well as the excellent Singles and Vanilla Sky).

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I think people are trying to point out that the review isn't written as gracefully because of the lads age. Though many generalisation's are annoying, it would be naive to ignore this one. Its common knowledge that you learn more as you grow older and writing is definately a skill that takes time. It has to be a pretty small perecentage of youngsters being better writers than adults...

Personally, he did a better job than i could and i do wish to hear the new Libertines album...not really as a result of reading this unfortunately.

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I'm really looking forward to this album. Rock'n'roll legends already!

Oh and I can't see what's wrong with this review. There's quite alot of writing on DIS that isn't quite upto scratch, but surely that's not the point. Surely the point is that it's real music fans writing with passion and conviction.

I was really surprised to learn the writer was only 15. Good luck to him!

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I think age does play a massive factor on your opinion, I certainly don't like the same bands I liked when I was 15. However, I might not like the same bands I do now when I'm 50, so is there ever a stage when your listening taste stops evolving?

That said, how anyone can listen to this album and give it anything about 2 stars must be mad. I was a loyal supporter of the libertines for a long time, but this is truly sh*t. Terrible production didn't effect the first album because the songs were still there, but it really sounds as if they couldn't give a flying f*ck about anything on this one.

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I really used to like this website.

It's become full of dreadful pretentious wankers.

I won't be coming back.

Tally-Ho.

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Well said! :)

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..nothing like a little constructive criticism to spur on a young man to write about his love of music is there?!

fucking pricks

r

x

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I'd just like to see the actual author defend himself a bit here. Anyway I think that one of the better writers (calling Michael Diver or Adie) should maybe have written this review.

And the bloke who said he had a 1st class in journalism: if you got a 1st class in journalism, and you're not good enough to write for DiS, what does that say about you? That you're an arrogant little twat, to pardon my German.

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Guilty as charged m'lord ;)

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I bet most of you guys have written some fairly crap reviews in your time as we all have. I would also guess you were all 15 at some stage and I'm sure you all loved getting slagged off in public, (before internet) not. Did it really help you? no. This is a decent review and the first I've read on the new libs album. I can't wait to hear it.

The Libs are awesome live, have produced some cracking tracks and could go on to produce some trully great music. So lets all hope Pete sorts his sorry ass out and gets back on track.

Al keep up the good work.

Oh yeah, a very high proportion of successful journalists don't have a degree in the subject so Jared...DO ONE!
You obviously didn't have enough fun at uni if you got a first.

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When I wrote here at around the same age I would have loved to have got that kind of criticism rather than being told to fuck off.

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i agree.

So this Jared has a first degree, eh? Big fucking deal!

He comes across as a tad bitter. And he has, dare i say, made himself look a bit silly.

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Nah, I'm not bitter fella. I like the site and would have liked to have written for it, but then some things aren't meant to be. Obla dee obla dah, n' all that jazz...

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"Oh yeah, a very high proportion of successful journalists don't have a degree in the subject"

That was exactly my point. Most truly great journalists don't have degrees in the subject. I do and I'm not a journalist and probably couldn't hack it if I was (hack! geddit? Puntastic eh? No- that's why I'm not gun enuff to be a journo!).

There's some fantastic writing on this site that constantly leaves me awestruck, but I still think my original point about this particular review is right.

Oh, by the way. I had plenty of fun at uni and have the lice and warts to prove it.

(I know, crap joke. I'll 'do one' now....)

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alex....

please dont even bother to reply to these cunts. i dont know you but am sure you'll stand by what you've written. i may not even agree with yis but this really fucks me off.

r

xxx

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Hahaha this is so harsh. The fact of the matter is this: the review wouldnt have been put on the DiS site if it was illegible, didnt read well or didnt successfully convey the writers' opinion. Whether you agree, disagree or feel you have the right to make cutting remarks whilst waving your second rate degree as a form of argument, the fact is that The Libertines are unmistakably one of the most talked about bands on here - the Ed wouldnt have let any old shit review slip through the net.

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well, thats the issue. theyre saying that its proof that the editorial angle isnt as strong as usual, taking the writing as evidence, whilst youre saying to ignore the writing and believe blindly in the editor, like an oasis fan deciding taht because they once had some quality control, thats actual *proof* that their recent shit is actually gold.

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you dont have to be a libertines fan to see that the above review isnt particularly badly written, even if the songs are shit, and certainly isnt worthy of being pulled apart by some guy who thinks he could do better and didnt actually mention the editing at any point. like i said before, if it was as big a pile of toss as he was trying to make out, it wouldnt have got onto the site so one of two things has happened: as you say, the editorial angle has weakened or judging by the amount of positive comments it's received, the review is not shit.

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The fact is that The Libertines are utter cack, really one of the worst British bands ever. I've come across more talent at White Hart Lane.

Merely TALKING about them this much is embarrasing...

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How the fuck did this post appear here?

This site is tripping it's face off....

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Considering the amount of drugs he's taken and his apparent "genius", you'd think Pete Libertine would have progressed beyond writing wanky three chord pub rock songs.

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shit. i actually like the new single.

*seriously fucking fearing for my sanity right now*