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Weezer: Weezer

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by Mike Diver
  • Type: Album
  • Release date: 16/06/2008
  • Label: Polydor

You’ve got to wonder – third self-titled LP in six with a cover like that, southern rap rasps, self-aggrandising lyrical quips guaranteed to have longstanding admirers cringe, a number sung entirely by drummer Pat Wilson – if Weezer aren’t taking the piss slightly with their anticipated latest long-player, sure to (already) be lovingly called ‘The Red Album’ in the tradition of preceding Blue (debut) and Green (album three) instalments.

Some – and I include myself – felt that the Los Angeles foursome’s wheels rather came off around the release of 2001’s Weezer, the green version; a commercially successful comeback though it was after a period of hiatus, spawning the hit singles ‘Hash Pipe’ and ‘Islands In The Sun’, it felt like frontman Rivers Cuomo was operating on autopilot. All the riffs, melodies and sing-along segments were in place, but where was the soul? Perhaps Weezer’s sole songwriter – until this record, anyway – was too bruised after the experience of 1996's Pinkerton, his most emotionally naked LP ever and one that was promoted while the band gradually drifted apart, to commit fully again to the artistic process. Perhaps his time at Harvard instilled a more calculated mentality where hooks took absolute priority over heartache and headaches. Perhaps, even, the singer’s love of association football distracted him from completely engrossing his attentions in the creative experience. Whatever the reason, the album felt cold, stripped of the rawness and vulnerability that made Weezer’s high watermark, and to a lesser extent their ’94 debut, such classic and timeless pop-rock LPs.

Another three albums later and Weezer, mark III, again finds its makers running on half-full rather than half-empty, but nevertheless comes across as a far cry from the band’s pre-break – 1997 to 2000 – material. Cuomo’s lyricism can be appreciated for its nudge-wink nostalgia and intelligent wordplay from time to time – ‘Heart Songs’ features a series of neat twists, acknowledging a succession of other popular recording artists, before celebrating Nevermind as the record that ultimately sparked Weezer into life; it’s a triumphant hell yeah to the songs that everyone keeps singing – but at others his played-for-laughs larger-than-life-ing grates terribly. ‘The Greatest Man That Ever Lived’ is undeniably penned with tongues in cheek – from its first lines, “You try to play cool like you just don’t care / But soon I’ll be playing in your underwear”, onwards, it’s a solid five minutes of chest-puffed braggadocio set to undulating riffs that break for an acoustic-accompanied howl only to snap back to Kid Rock-aping attention – but one must wonder what the hell Weezer are doing committing such a sub-Bloodhound Gang stinker to an LP that, for some, will be the last chance they get to recapture the fans they so let down with Make Believe, 2005’s fifth album that famously received a 0.4 score from Pitchfork.

Lead single ‘Pork & Beans’ – watch the video here – is a faint echo of past glories, Cuomo’s repeated refrains fighting a tide of screaming amplification that washes forth atop backing harmonies beamed straight from a 1960s chart countdown. Modern culture’s clearly on Cuomo’s mind as he references Timbaland’s recent commercial successes, while stating that he’ll never adhere to present trends and fashions – “I don’t give a hoot about what you think.” Ultimately, his sentiments are sound – everyone does like to dance to happy songs, and sing along too given the chance – but when looking outwardly rather than inwardly for his thematic inspiration the singer can’t engage an audience at the level he once regularly reached. He’s no longer singing with us, he’s singing at us, and at times during this Weezer the affect on the listener is overpowering in the wrong way: it’s too much, too Look At Me, too effortlessly tossed off in the knowledge that Weezer’s canon classics are already established and whatever follows is always going to fall short in the ears of the critics.

That’s the impression that Weezer leaves – for all its highs, of which there certainly are more than its immediate predecessor, the album captures the sound of a band writing and recording through habit, not necessarily because they’re especially driven to. This isn’t catharsis, it’s not envelope-pushing; it may be spoken about by label types as the band’s most experimental album yet, but it sticks close enough to familiar formulas to always have the listener yearning for just a snatch of a semblance of a whisper of Pinkerton’s fantastically understated grandeur. The tracks that do wander furthest from the source – the crap-rap of ‘Cold Dark World’ (featuring bassist Scott Shriner on vocals), the throwaway thrash of ‘Everybody Get Dangerous’ – prove to be the least memorable, the most substantial impression left by numbers that most closely resemble what’s come long before.

I’m all for progress, but only when it’s with the artist in question’s credibility fully considered. Weezer – the red version – chances its arm with mixed results without ever truly going as far as it could; thus, its divergences from the marked path are almost instantly forgettable, the million-dollar budget and time of producers Rick Rubin and Jacknife Lee perhaps not spent as well as they could've been. Kudos to Cuomo for bringing his bandmates further into the fold, encouraging them to step up to the microphone and make their mark on album six in a way they’ve never been offered the opportunity of before. But approach this with caution, old-timers, do: many of its ten tracks* are going to slip easily into a live set worth seeing forevermore, but don’t expect to get much repeat-play mileage from an LP bold of intent but muddled of execution.

A number of plays through and it’s still not clear who, exactly, the band are taking the proverbial out of: themselves, playfully and absolutely intentionally, or us, fans who’ve become conditioned to not expecting the best from a band who, personally, have been a shadow of themselves since that first ‘sequel’ release.

* The UK version comes with a pair of bonus covers: Talk Talk’s ‘Life Is What You Make It’ and The Band’s ‘The Weight

  • Weezer 5 / 10

you're ruining it!!!

its well written, but i hope you are wrong


Indeed he's ruining it

It's not even close to being well-written. It's sloppy. It's writing trying to be Writing. Awkwardness abounds, dotted by outright mistakes. I'm not after perfection, but don't attempt what you shouldn't, Mike Diver.

In fact, I'm so fucking tired of DiS review writers and their stultifying, predictable propensity to sound off their own writing rather than write a sound review, that I may abandon the site.

I'm not a devoted Weezer fan, and I couldn't care less in this case whether the review is poor or favourable. I'd dearly appreciate writing, however, that doesn't constantly come across as if talking to you while jacking itself.


been turned down by all the magazines, have we?

resort to writing on our last.fm journal page that nobody reads have we?

there, there


have we, have we?

Huh? I'm not a writer, never could be, don't wish to be. That's not the issue, brusma, but thanks for the tremendously clever reply. The issue is: too often on this site attempts at clever review writing trump the reviews themselves. Maybe I came off too harsh ... I'm just sick and tired of it.


OH NO

LeatherMcWhip? Abandoning the site? SOUND THE DEATH KNELL! Drowned in Sound is dead.


Is this really such a surprise?

Why do people keep on clinging onto the hope that they will release anything as good as the first two albums.


I'm a huge Weezer fanboy

, but unless the un-leaked tracks are Pinkerton quality, then 5/10 really is a bit generous.


^

seconded


Why does every Weezer fanboy

think that Pinkerton (brilliant though it is) is the be-all-and-end-all of everything?

Go to any messageboard for a band and the hardcore always hate "the hits". I don't get it. I'm a massive Weezer fan but I still think Buddy Holly is their crowning achievement, because it's just a great pop single. It's all about the pop.


Well, sure

Buddy Holly's wonderful. It has a beating heart and soul, unlike anything they released past 2001. The writer here makes a point, River's started singing "at" us, finding his inspiration from outside rather than in, and unfortunately that makes his music come off incredibly cheap.

The reason Pinkerton gets such a great rep is because it deserves it. It's incredibly raw and one of the most endearing albums you'll ever hear. Rivers was baring his soul, and it's the most honest thing he's ever put down on record.


I am a huge fan of the Green Album

but I have no desire to hear a single song from this. Why didn't they just dress up like clowns on the cover and get it over with?


Brilliantly executed review, Mike

Fair across the board (based on the meh,meh,meh Pork'nBeans tune).

That said, I never liked this band. When people criticized bands like Pixies/Pavement for being boring college indie-rock bullshit I always thought they should have been talking about Weezer.


not supriesed at the score

in any way shape or form they have been embarasing for quite some time now. I still like them two records from ages ago that always get banged on about though.


um...

Mike,is your review based on the 8 tracks that have leaked, or the whole album?I notice that there's no mention of the two tracks that haven't turned up yet. I think it'd be a bit rich to review an album based on only 4/5ths of its content.
The Greatest Man That Ever Lived is tops, by the way. You're probably right about the rest of the album though.


Erm, yeah.

I have a full copy here, ta.


5/10 sounds disapointing

however its still probably better than their last album


:D

music journo in advanced promo shocker!!!!!


:D


Sounds about right

couple of good songs
couple of decent ones
few forgettable ones
some embarrasing ones


its better than 5

definitely better than 5. troublemaker! pork and beans! heartsongs!


They're taking the piss out of you

for writing ^ such dross ^


"The Greatest Man That Ever Lived" is by no means a "sub-Bloodhound Gang stinker"

It is, in my opinion, probably the best thing they've ever done. I've not given the album as a whole enough attention to gain an honest opinion on it, but that song is spectacular.


^this


you're just wrong mike diver

this is the best weezer album since pinkerton, absolutly no doubt, the song sung by brian bell(thought i knew) is ace , greatest man that ever lived is one of the best things they've ever done, dreamin' is a bit weezer by numbers, but id rather listen to that any day than cajun dance party or all these other awful bands that people seem to enjoy bumming so much. there are three class singles in pork and beans, everybody get dangerous and troublemaker , and above all its weezer. to compare any bands work to their first two albums is just to easy critism and lazy journalism, weezer (blue) was one of the best albums of the 90's, and this isnt as good, but it still pisses over most other things. youre just scared that if you didnt give it a predictable 5 you wouldnt be allowed to like goodbooks anymore. You'd hate for the kids to think
That you lost your cool.


^managed to make me hate Weezer fans

seriously,
"and above all it's weezer"

WHAT!? No band is exempt from criticism and maybe the band can't match their first two records, but that doesn't mean they can make bad albums for the rest of their life and get away with it, just because their first two are good.

oh, and how does "giving it a predictable 5" (which is in no way predictable, as you can see from the comments) mean that he can't like goodbooks anymore? That doesn't even make any sense!


haha davelazer thinks we all listen to

cajun dance party and goodbooks heheh...


We don't?

*throws away NME in digust* YOU LIED TO ME.

Also, Mike, did you read my mind? I was goingto write something very similar to what is here... I totally agree with you. A big MEH.


Was gonna say this...

I thought CDP got rinsed on here on an hourly basis...


I think this is

a good review


^

Yes.


Anyone

who has any pretensions that this is a good album, let alone the best thing they've done since Pinkerton isn't a real Weezer fan and should fuck off and listen to their Sum 41 and Kid Rock records.
Either that or they're seriously in denial. The Green Album and Maladroit - as mediocre as they were in places - both piss over this abomination of an album from a great height.


I'd give it 7/10

but I think this review is pretty accurate overall and well expressed. bravo!


hmmm, 5/10? shock rating?

I'm so curious about this album, but despite me being a totally utter Weezer fangirl (you don't really get someone who doesn't mind them, do you?) I know that nothing ever is going to reach pinkerton, simply because Rivers frame of mind has become fucked since then.

I've heard 2 views about this, either it's the next pinkerton or it's as shocking as make believe. i reckon if it's the latter, rivers will go insane.


Since then?

I'd say it was the reverse. Rivers was fucked at the time of Pinkerton, proper bordering on acid era Brian Wilson fucked.......and that's when the magic happened!

Conversely, he's since achieved commercial success (albeit without much in the way of critical acclaim) once again, married a pretty Japanese girl and left his angst filled twenties far behind him, the trouble could be that he's simply too content to replicate past glories.

For what it's worth, I thought Green was a perfectly decent album, Maladroit is MASSIVELY overrated too. I'll make no attempt to defend Make Believe, but the leaked songs from the new album are pretty damn great in the main.

I've loved this band for 14 years, it's actually impossible for me to stop now!


For you I've put Maladroit on now

I'm giving it a long awaiting 2nd chance.


What even happened

to Rivers Cuomo? I heard he spent a week in a blacked out room or something?


pretty much.

refuses to look people in the eye, married a girl who he met on a chatroom and is so into himself that he barely talks to other people.

I've been a Weezer fan for 13 years, I love them but sometimes they do make gash music and we have to accept it!


Oh Dear

It reads like the writer knows what they are talking about, although I have 3 reasons to suspect they dont.

1) The constant references to Pinkerton being the best album when many fans consider Blue to be the best, or at least in the same league as Pinkerton

2) The description of "the greatest man that ever lived" as a "sub Bloodhound Gang" stinker. Weezer fans will be more critical of Weezer than anyone else, and even those disgusted by the new album seem to like this song.

3) The fact that we have only heard 8/14 songs from the new ablum. (the fact "Pig" is only included in the delux means I have decided to consider the delux to be the full version of the album.) And it sounds like the writer has heard even less than us, as he makes no references to Troublemaker, Dreamin' or Thought I Knew.


why dont weezer fans

like any other music?


why don't weezer fans

like music?


I think it is pretty well written

1) There are two references in there, which isn't that many. Most people on here would say Pinkerton is their best and as that was released after Blue and their last excellent album it makes more sense to refer to it.

2) Everyone has opinions.

3) It was mentioned above that the reviewer had a full copy. Most reviews do not mention all the songs. Or do you want one of those track-by-track reviews that people do on amazon, which are just frustrating.


Pinkerton

is not better than blue. It's amazing, yes, but absolutely no fucking way is it better than blue.


I'm pretty sure

that most people on here seem to think it is. So it makes more sense for the reviewer to refer to it rather than blue.


I would day that blue is superior.........

most people on here didn't discover Weezer until long after the 'glory years'. I'm 28 and Pinkerton was released when I was 16, you hear a lot of people saying 'Yeah, I loved it as soon as it came out man', but I remember it's exceptionally low key launch, I didn't meet anyone else who even owned it for about a year!


*say


27

and I have vivd memories of the day I bought the Sweater Song single on cassette b/w Mykel and Carli.

Amazing.

Most of my friends went mad for them after Buddy Holly.

Even the best songs on Pinkerton - Good Life, Across the Sea, Pink Triangle are nothing on anything off Blue.

The fans hold Pinkerton so dear because it was so maligned by the critics / mainstream record buying public who were expecting Blue 2 but i doubt there are many who could honestly say it's a better album.


5/10

sounds almost generous from this review. i'd like too stick up for the Green Album a bit, which I gave a listen to today, and although at times sounds by numbers, it has it's highlights (Hash Pipe is possibly my favourite Weezer song), and no bad tracks. Maladroit was also okish. Make Believe was an abomination, I haven't minded Beverley Hills after I heard it loud at a party but some of the tracks on there are embarassingly bad.

Blue or Pinkerton- I think there is an almost mythical thing about Pinkerton, helped by its treatment at the time and the Songs from the Black Hole stuff, which lead it to being held in the classic regard which it probably doesnt deserve (personally I've always preferred the first few tracks to the rest) . Blue, as a pop-rock album stands up really well today.

After Make Believe and the decline over the last few albums I'm not sure I really care that much about Weezer anymore. Not surprised by the score.


Who cares about the detail?

the album is whack, and whats more we all knew it would be.

Blue and Pinkerton are both good, but they both came out years ago.

their relevence to modern weezer who essentially are a spent force is pretty obscure in my opinion, its like they could be two different bands.


Pork & Beans video

is good.


Yes

It'd be one thing if I thought he was even trying anymore, but I just don't think he gives a rat's ass. And he absolutely blows at writing about 'pop culture'. The first two albums are great of course, but not so great that we should care about the later dross


I will never understand...

...why everyone hates Make Believe so much. The pitchfork review in particualr is completely ridiculous.
I can usually see most points of view if I try really hard, but this one is way beyond me. I genuinely love it.


BEVERLY HILLS

THAT'S WHY. for that, they will never be forgiven.


A bit harsh

I can only judge this record on the leaked tracks so far and hell I like it. Sure it's not a work of genius but it makes me smile and there's not much I've heard lately that does. For that reason I am glad that Weezer are back.


the same reason why people

who are into the 'post rock' movement think that Spiderland is the greatest album ever concocted on a 4 track.

It is because they don't realise that there were alternatives at the time. In terms of stuff sounding like Weezer, at the time there was Pavement and Hoover who if anything pissed on their style of lo-fi college toss.

(IN REF TO: Damian + Weezer Fanboy thread)