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Thursday: War All The Time

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by James Parrish
  • Type: Album
  • Release date: 15/09/2003
  • Label: Island
When Thursday released their previous long-player ‘Full Collapse’ on US independent Victory Records in 2001, it was instantly hailed an emo classic. And as word spread of the record and the band’s intense and fan-welcoming live shows, their popularity only continued to grow further. In the UK, even without an official release for ‘Full Collapse’ or earlier release ‘Waiting’, they sold out shows in London and, perhaps most tellingly, when supporting the now defunct The Movielife on their 2001 tour, the audience thinned out considerably at the end of their set each night.

‘War All The Time’, marks Thursday’s major label debut for Island. In defence of the band against cries of ‘sellout!’, Victory Records are hardly the straightest of indie labels; infamous for a clause in their contracts stating that if a band wishes to leave Victory they cannot sign to another independent. This is shitty and this is true.

Glad we’ve got that settled then.

But enough of the background information, because I’m not sure Thursday really deserve a lot more of it. While ‘Full Collapse’ was awash with feeling and, more importantly, memorable songs, ‘War All The Time’ falls flat on its face through trying too hard. The melodies are haphazard and overtly awkward and the instrumentation, while competent and intricate, is nothing you couldn’t hear on the previous record.

After the electrifyingly brilliant track 'Jet Black New Year' from the 'Five Stories Falling' EP (the band's final Victory release), I had high hopes for the new album. Upon buying it however, I’ve been left sorely disappointed by a disjointed and generally underwhelming collection of songs and almost-songs. Sure, it’s not all bad; tracks such as ‘Division St.’, ‘Signals In The Air’ and recent single ‘For The Workforce, Drowning’ are all fine examples of great rock music. The title track isn’t exactly terrible either. But this is less than half of the album and it doesn’t compensate for the spacious dirge of filler elsewhere.

Frontman Geoff Rickly recently described ‘War All The Time’ as "an album with no hooks". Well, at least he’s honest.

  • Thursday 5 / 10

Thursday - War All The Time

Nonsense.
'War All The Time' is a great record.
Don't make me play the emo card...

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

Hooked out 50 odd CDs for tonight.
Not one of 'em is by Thursday.
Which should show you that there are 50 odd better bands of that ilk doing the rounds!

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

Although I DO own a t-shirt.
Probably shouldn't say that too loudly...

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

I own a supremely faded Thursday T Shirt as well. I even wore it on my first day at university a couple of years back. And it still gets the odd wear now.

But "War All The Time" isn't a great record. It really, really isn't. It's not bad, and better than a lot of other records in the genre but for a band as good as Thursday it's below par.

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

I like this a lot, but I agree when you say it could've been better. Not really a patch on Full Collapse.

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

anyone got The Halogens EP, released on Simba last year?

the first track is called something like 'Car Crash in the Dream', and sounds uncannily like Thursday's 'Understanding in a Car Crash'... yet the Halogens APPARENTLY hadn't heard of Thursday, or so said Simba boss Vique.

I say they ripped 'em off.

Re: Thursday - War All The Time

I love thursday! i would die for them.


Thursday - War All The Time

Veeeery harsh review, the hooks are there geoff you fool and all in all it's a perfectly great album, WATT is one of the greatest songs ever. period.

Thursday - War All The Time

war all the time is definitely different than full collapse or the EP, and i'm thinking maybe that's why it's hitting (this and other) harsh reviews. it's less purebred emo; it has a definite mainstream rock influence. but the emotional resonance--really what thursday has always been about in my opinion--is still there. thursday was never an amazing band for instrumentation, innovation, or incredibly danceable/moshable rhythms. but the songs always made you feel something. i know *i* get a little sad when i listen to 'understanding in a car crash' and i'm normally a pretty cynical person. i think war all the time still hits a lot of the same emotional cords. it makes you feel the emotions they wanted you to feel--so for what it is, war all the time is a great record. i really have to disagree that the album is half filler, it's the only record i can think of off the top of my head (other than the mars volta's "de-loused in the comatorium") that i can listen to all the way through and not get bored. i really enjoyed this record and am glad i bought it. but of course, arguing over music is often a pointless excercise, since our opinions are all rather diverse. not that that ever stops us =0). wow, this is a long post. sorry. /me out

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" war all the time is definitely different than full collapse or the EP, and i'm thinking maybe that's why it's hitting (this and other) harsh reviews"

or maybe it's getting harsh reviews cos it's fucking shit?

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"or maybe it's getting harsh reviews cos it's fucking shit?"
possible. or what i said is possible, too. all the bitching DOES come off as arrogant-emo-kid-syndrome symptoms though, in my opinion. of course, you're welcome to your own opinion, and maybe i'm suffering from not-emo-enough-syndrome.
life is full of possibilities.
meanwhile, *i* still like the cd. sorry if you don't. there are many other cds which you can buy and hopefully enjoy.
/me out again

Thursday - War All The Time

i disagree i love this cd!