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Idlewild: Warnings / Promises

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by Gareth Dobson
  • Type: Album
  • Release date: 07/03/2005
  • Label: Parlophone
So much promise. So many warning signs. A decade into their career and five albums down the line, the restless stirrings of Idlewild are clear; they are too big for their mid-sized pond, the world wants big, epic rock with emotive lyrics and massive pathos, and Idlewild are here to offer such things. It’s the way it’s been going for five years, and you all know it, so please, no muttering at the back, rock kids. If you really hated the soft crap the last album, then there’s no point reading this review. You know what’s going to happen here.

…but if you’re still around, I guess we can offer you ‘I Want A Warning’; a brief, tantalising nod towards decade-ago Idlewild, with skewering guitars and a simple mantra of “I want a warning”. It’s pretty much as close to the past that the unreformed ‘wild fans will get from ‘Warnings /Promises’.

Now to the present day. On their previous LP ‘The Remote Part’, Roddy Woomble and Co. found themselves bedevilled by oft-mentioned comparisons to REM. The hope (or fear, depending on how you’re pre-disposed) it seemed, was that Britain was finally set to offer a major-label folk-rock answer to the former quartet from Athens, Georgia. Therein, it’s not too surprising to hear that the opener and returning single ‘Love Steals Us From Loneliness’ is a stately bluster and that the “happy birthday” payoff is pure Stipean lyricism. Equally, ‘I Understand It’, one of the better songs from the LP’ is a prime slice of REM ‘Document’ era chiming guitars and clear from murky-origin vocals. ‘El Capitan’ is a little more strident and thoughtful, complete with oblique references to bringing your camera (another REM reference, fact spotter geeks). It swings between single-note piano gossamer-lightness and thundering anthem.

Before that though, ‘Welcome Home’ is all keening guitar and gentle swells and a more than enjoyable entrance into Idlewild mk.3. But it begs the question; where Roddy, is home? Unsurprisingly, it’s now across the Atlantic. ‘Not Just Sometimes But Always’ gives us a peek at Woomble's new, East Village, NY listening habits. Drenched in Americana, it’s the sign of maturity that overtakes all portentous musicians at some point.

And while there’s certainly a progression of style, there’s also much to link to the band’s previous pair of albums ‘As If I Hadn’t Slept’ re-traces much-followed Idlewild chords, lyrical themes and despite the debut of steel pedal (re-introduced on the lovely penultimate track ‘Disconnected’) on an Idlewild record, it could have fitted on either of the two preceding LPs.

There are peaks though; ‘Too Long Awake’ is a glorious, towering song that unfurls into a imperial, pathos-laiden chorus laid on a bed of disonnant e-bowed guitars, yet brutally and tantalisingly cut dead just as it promises to peak at the summit of a white noise mountain. Yet for every ‘Too Long Awake’, there’s a ‘The Space Between All Things’ which is a shapeless dirge. It’s all infuriatingly inconsistent.

Plus (oooh, infuriation) there’s still an annoying element to Woomble’s now standard oh-so-clever-yet-not juxtaposed/contradictory/double confirmatory lyrics; a sense that while he attempts to move his band into the big leagues, he’s not been able to climb beyond a lyrical plateau he reached somewhere during ‘100 Broken Windows’. Words such as “Together we're younger than you are / Forever you're older than we are together” grate (especially when you realise that the second half of the couplet is an obvious restating of the original line). It’s that desire to stay the same yet be different that clips Idlewild’s wings, leaving them chained to big theatre venues like the ravens to the tower. Hang on, is that a Woomble lyric?

It could have been different though. Closer ‘Goodnight’ is one of the more adventurous tracks on the record, and it bathes itself in a luxurious, slo-core glow. A portent for what could have been if the band had freed itself from the confines of stultifying self-importance and grand expectation

‘Warnings / Promises’ is the work of a band pushing itself to the limits of its generous, but ultimately not boundless musical ability. The desire to soar to the heights and write an album of such landmark size and scope has finally stripped the Icarus Woomble of his wings.

  • Idlewild 7 / 10

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Spot on - i'm not surethis is gonna sell that many, but i love it - it's a natural progression from 'The Remote Part', but yet rediscovers their roots. Hope to see them at Glasto.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

I love it...but then I loved 'The Remote Part' as well so I must be in some sort of tiny minority of Idlewild fans...you know, the ones that know they're not going to go back to 'Self Healer'-style discordant chaos.

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Haven't heard the album yet but the review was surprisingly positive. I'm looking forward even more to buying it on Monday!

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

nice review, i loved remote part too and i'm still really really looking forward to this.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

i like all idlewild, it's nice to see a band that really have developed and changed their sound in the public eye.

see also: beastie boys - punk to rap. who knew?

If I'm to be your camera, then who'll be your face

Congratulations on giving this album EXACTLY the right score, good work. I'm hoping this is a transitional record, because it is a step backwards but there is still such abundant beauty and joy in it despite the well observed irritants you've picked up on. I also think the production is a bit dodgy, particularly on Welcome Home which is ruined compared to how it was acoustic. Here's to the next one eh? In the meantime, Life's Rich Pageant and Reckoning should be on the menu for everyone who likes this sort of thing. Mmmm.

x

p.s. What the f*ck are the NME doing giving this a NINE? Deary me.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

didnt the nme review say that every album of theirs is getting better? and that hope is important had no good songs? when everyone in the bloody world knows the exact opposite of both of those statements is true?

i can just imagine the review suggestion - "hey you know that rather average new idlewild record that everyone is a bit unexcited about? i'm gonna say i like it and its the best! aaaaaaaaaah!"

Jamie

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umm....

remote part was better than 100 broken windows and hope is important. (though hope was better than 100 broken...)

from what i've heard of the album, it's a good album, but it's not done in a style old idlewild fans tend to go for. what i've found is, when they say it's shit, they mean the style, not the songs. and seeing as no style or genre of music can ever be inherently crap (it's only the people who do it who are crap), then, they're talking balls. but i have sympathy for them. i can imagine wishing a band to stay exactly the same style over 4 1/2 albums just so suit the fans, rather than themselves.

3 1/2 stars is fair from what i've heard. it's quite good, but it's no classic.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

The Icarus Woomble - great!

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

I've heard this. All the bands I loved when I first discovered music have now turned to shit or split. I am displeased.

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or
maybe you've just got old and jaded?
no meanness meant there

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Hmm, this and actualy kinda remind me of a scottish punk band i listen to.......Wait A Minute!


Nah Hopefully Ill Enjoy 'Remote Part Wasnt Bad.....Just A Tad Boring In Parts

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Idlewild have let us all down(but most bands do)they should just fuck off.

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seriously, you should just fuck off. a feeder fan saying idlewild have let us down. hahahaha. fuck off.

idlewild will never let us down.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

I don't like it at all. And I'm not a fan that wants them to go back to how they were blah blah blah, I just don't like the direction they've gone in... and I think it sounds a bit rubbish if I'm honest.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Idlewild will never let us down? hah! They let us down with the remote part.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

well, i like it.
I'm on the NME's side on this one!!!
agree with the point about Too Long Awake, it does end too abruptly, but I still like every song on the record, it's varied but (to these ears) still has all the things I've always liked about Idlewild. If they still played the same style as they did in 1998 they'd get as much criticism for that too.

warnings/promises needs repeated listens, but its by far their best album, so there.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

i have been a huge idlewild fan sice 1998, since the Captain E.P. and to be honest i loved all the screamin punk stuff, with roddy occasionally rollin about on the floor

but i am not gonna say oh idlewild have sold out or they've lost it coz thats crap

all 5 idlewild albums (inc captain and i know it aint an album) are good and warning and promises is excellent

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Not been too impressed with what I've heard so far, but I'm a funny bugger these days and seeing them live in April might change my opinion.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

Shame - this goes downhill from the opening track.

Is anyone else scared by the fact that a good two or three tracks sound worryingly like Suede's Head Music?

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Haha, Roddy's accent on 'I Want A Warning' is hilarious. Of course he's done the American accent before but this is something else!

Did anyone go to the London signing tonight?

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Ever since I've owned this album all I can think of when I hear 'I Want A Warning' is this guy's posting! Spot on tho.

Definite grower, couple of duffers on there but there you go.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

so far its all been pretty good ... not blown away by it, but then i didnt expect to be.

maybe its a grower like remote part was

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

it's one of those albums where i can't decide which my fave track is - at the mo, it's something like-

Blame It On The Obvious Ways (Classic modern Idlewild)
I Understand It
Love Steal...
Goodnight

and then all the rest in a similiar muddle.

definitely a grower.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

The single made me expect good things, but my first listen is a big disappointment : worse than the remote part.
Will give it another chances but don't think i'll ever rate it high.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

i was very disappointed on my first listen to the new album but it's growing on me really fast. el capitan in my opinion is one of their best ever tracks. i think just like the remote part this is going to sound better with every listen...
i still have a bit of a longing for the noisy old days though. can anyone recommend a band with that sort of sound? i need something as energetic and discordant and sublime as captain...

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If you don't know them already, try We will be pilots or Fighting with wire.
Both very very good.

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brilliant! i've just pre-ordered the we will be pilots cd without even hearing it. that's how much i need some new music.

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Download some Fighting with wire songs on www.fightingwithwire.co.uk.
Tru to download 'after the show' if they still have it on their website.

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i just saw million dead, and their energy (and very occasionally the sound) made me think of idlewild. fighting with wire supported, they are good too.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

I like it, didn't think it was that great on the first listen but after it's grown on me since.

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Ditto. Though the lyrics are more than a little annoying in parts, if you take it away from the context of the old Idlewild it's a good album. It's not exactly a surprise they've gone further and further into slowie territory, given the way the last couple of albums have headed. If they started recording songs like Self Healer and Captain again (which, incidentally, I love), it just wouldn't work.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

I like it, a grower that's for sure. And I loved the last album, and sometimes play Hope is Important, but only sometimes mind.

Idlewild - Warnings / Promises

When I first listened to The Remote Part, I thought it was quite mediocre. However, after repeated listens it sounded better and better. Eventually it didn't just climb to be the best Idlewild album in my estimation - it was a record I had to listen to every single night (especially after imbibing some alcohol). At this stage I've only listened to Warnings/Promises straight through once - so I have no idea if it's going to turn out to be a classic or something not so good. But after my previous experience I know that the record isn't going to reveal itself on the first listen.